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It's 'Acting' Chairman. I'm just thrilled over this announcement.

I'm not. Rubio is self serving. Cotton or Paul would have been better picks but they aren't what the senate wants. Dude was posturing his ass off trying to get the post and it looks like it worked.

"Acting" or not, it's still an ugh from me. Actually think I would have preferred Cornyn over Li'l Marco. Warner is gonna run rough shod over him.

VaultingChemist said:

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criminal contempt for perjury

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There's the p-word again. It was never mentioned in Flynn's plea agreement.

So if a defendant pleads not guilty, and is convicted, does that subject him to a separate perjury charge afterwards? That is crazy!

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It wasn't mentioned in Flynn's plea agreement, but Obama mentioned perjury in the leaked telephone conversation. Could be the nitwits are still conspiring with Obama to derail the truth from being exposed.

Tibbers said:

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I'm not. Rubio is self serving. Cotton or Paul would have been better picks but they aren't what the senate wants. Dude was posturing his ass off trying to get the post and it looks like it worked.

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I was being sarcastic! Look at my emoji. Rubio is another Deep State/RINO. I wanted Cotton.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/18/mcconnell-appoints-marco-rubio-as-acting-senate-intelligence-committee-chairman/

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.....To understand numerous layers within the overall dynamic it is important to remember Rubio was a never-Trumper. Nikki Haley, Trey Gowdy and Marco Rubio formed the trio of GOPe advocates to defend the interests of the deep state during campaign 2016. The original opposition research into Trump by Fusion-GPS came as an outcome of Rubio supporters initiating and funding the research. That effort evolved into the Steele Dossier after team Rubio dropped funding in March 2016; and the Clinton campaign took over......

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Just to put Rubio in perspective.

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VaultingChemist said:

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criminal contempt for perjury

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There's the p-word again. It was never mentioned in Flynn's plea agreement.

So if a defendant pleads not guilty, and is convicted, does that subject him to a separate perjury charge afterwards? That is crazy!

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It wasn't mentioned in Flynn's plea agreement, but Obama mentioned perjury in the leaked telephone conversation. Could be the nitwits are still conspiring with Obama to derail the truth from being exposed.

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Perjury wasn't an option for the plea agreement as Flynn wasn't under oath when he spoke with Strzok and Pientka. Hence the false statement charge.

I have been following this thread for over two years, as best as I can (I am not an attorney).

The part that makes me maddest is the way Flynn has been treated i this whole ordeal. I decided I want to do a Facebook post summarizing my thoughts, and put together this:

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There has been a lot of discussion since Trump tweeted "Obamagate" on Mother's Day. The MSM has been working overtime kicking out articles saying it is about nothing, etc.

I believe that what the Obama administration did, with the knowledge and leadership of Obama himself, is the largest and worst publicly known political scandal in our country's history. This is actually much worse than the "Watergate" scandal that took down Nixon. Their actions, combined with the Mueller investigation, was a "soft coup" attempt to topple an elected president, or at least hamper his administration for years, to try to keep them from focusing on doing good for the country.

I believe the now publicly available documents clearly show:

The Obama Administration, with active participation by leadership in the FBI and intelligence agencies, started a program to spy on Trump and those thought to be close to him, in 2016 before the election. Among others, this included spying on Michael Flynn.

They justified this spying program by getting FISA court approvals, based primarily on the "Steele Dossier". The "Steele Dossier" was a collection of rumors and lies claiming that Trump and his associates were colluding with Russia, against the best interests of the United States. It was funded by the DNC and the Hillary Campaign. The FBI agents that submitted this "proof" to the FISA court knew that the information it contained was not only "unverified", but many of its statements had actually been verified false, and many of them were likely Russian "dis-information", intentional falsehoods provided to Steele by Russia. Yet the FBI told the FISA court that the information was verified by the FBI. This is counter to FISA court rules, so the original spying program was approved based on lies. This is the only known time in documented U.S. history that a Presidential Administration has "spied" on its political opponents, both before and after the election.

Unfortunately for the Democrats, the spying program did not actually turn up any evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, or any other wrong-doing.

The CIA also had attempted to analyze who the Russians favor in the 2016 election, and what actions they might be taking to influence the results of the election. They found indicators that Russia favored both candidates, in fact finding stronger evidence that they favored Hillary, and wrote up a report stating that. The head of the CIA, James Clapper, altered the final report, removing the parts that said they favor Hillary, and only reporting on the items that implied they favor Trump. This report was issued on Jan 6, 2017.

When Trump won the election, the Obama conspirators realized that the man Trump had appointed as National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn, was likely to uncover the improper spying, and they set out to create a reason to get him discredited or fired.

Obama announce "sanctions" on Russia for allegedly meddling in the 2106 election (it appears that Russia has been "meddling" in U.S. presidential elections for decades, so it looks like they bought some Facebook ads and other low level attempts to increase discord in the U.S., but no evidence has come out that their actions had any impact on the election results).

Michael Flynn had a few phone calls with the Russian Ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, in late December 2016. Flynn had been announced as the incoming National Security Advisor. Flynn and Kislyak already had a relationship before the call. The Obama administration was monitoring Kislyak's calls, and were apparently independently monitoring Flynn's calls. It is not at all unusual for an incoming NSA to talk to Ambassadors from other countries. Apparently the insiders in the Obama Administration and FBI floated that the call was a violation of the "Logan Act", which forbids "non official Americans" from engaging in foreign policy. No one has ever been prosecuted for violations of this act, and it is routinely "violated" by lots of people of all political spectrums on a routine basis.

In early January, the Obama administration leaked to the friendly press that Michael Flynn had talked to Sergey Kislyak, and implied it was more evidence of "Trump-Russia Collusion". Whoever leaked the information to the Press did actually commit a crime. Likely to avoid fingering the "Leaker", the Obama administration made clear that dozens of their team had access to the transcripts, so that it could not easily be found who broke the law by leaking classified information. Note that the fact that the call was spied on itself is considered confidential the U.S. government doesn't want everyone to know when and how they spy on officials from other countries.

On January 24, 2017, the FBI sent two agents to the White House to interview Michael Flynn about the call with Kislyak. When asked to sit down with the FBI, Flynn asked if he should have a lawyer present, and McCabe (part of the FBI conspiracy team) said, no, you don't need a lawyer.

It seems clear that the purpose of the interview was to set a "perjury" trap. The agents did not inform the White House counsel before the interview so as to catch Flynn by surprise; they did not share the transcripts with Flynn during the interview (which would have allowed him to refresh his memory); they did not warn him that making false statements would be a crime all of which are standard procedure. Even so, both of the agents who questioned him came away with the impression that "Flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying." The FBI does not record these interviews a very questionable practice because they then rely on their notes and memory to claim what the interviewee stated, who in this case was alone in the room.

The transcript of the Flynn-Kislyak call has not been released, and apparently has never been made available to Flynn or his legal team (How his lawyers could recommend that he plead guilty to "lying" without Flynn or they actually reading the FBI transcript of the call is yet another amazing part of this story). Recently released notes indicate that in the interview, Flynn said he did not recall discussing Russian sanctions with Kislyak. Flynn reportedly told the FBI agents, "why are you asking me? I am sure you have the transcript". Therefore, he knew that the FBI already had the transcript of the call, and had no reason to ask him, other than to set a perjury trap. Knowing that, there is no way he would have intentionally lied to the FBI about the call.

The FBI agents prepared their notes "called form 302" and issued them to the FBI bosses. McCabe did not like that the notes said they did not think Flynn lied, so they "lost" the original notes, and McCabe edited the notes which were then issued as the "official FBI notes". These notes claimed that Flynn lied in his meeting with the FBI agents.

The FBI then leaked to the Press that Flynn had lied about his conversation with Kislyak. The furor from the Press lead to Flynn agreeing to resign as NSA.

So the Obama Team won, right? They succeeding in getting rid of Flynn. Time to celebrate and let it die, right? Wrong. They succeeded in getting Jeff Sessions, appointed U.S. Attorney General, to "recuse himself". In a fevered attempt to further discredit Trump, the crooked Justice Department told Flynn they were filing charges against him for "lying to the FBI" based on what he told the FBI. They also threw in "FARA" charges, claiming that Flynn had not represented his relationship with Turkey properly in documents he had filed in 2016. They also got the "acting" Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, to appoint Robert Mueller to lead a partisan team, paid for by U.S. taxpayers, to further investigate "Trump-Russia Collusion", and any other possible crimes they could try to lay on Trump.

Subsequent discovery, which is at the heart of the Justice Department's filing on May 7, 2020 to dismiss the Flynn charges, were based on the information that the FBI had already finished their investigation of Flynn prior to his meeting with the FBI agents, so there was no legitimate reason to even conduct an interview, and any statements he made were therefore not "material" to an investigation.

In response to the Justice Department telling Flynn they were filing charges against him, Flynn hired a law firm, Covington and Burling, to represent him in this matter. This was the biggest mistake Flynn made in the whole ordeal. The same law firm had represented him while filling out paperwork for the FARA paperwork, and therefore had a conflict of interest in representing him on charges that the paperwork was improper. This is also the Law Firm that Eric Holder, Obama's Attorney General/"wing man" worked for.

The Justice Department told Flynn that they would go after his son for "FARA" violations. They then made a secret deal that they would not go after his son, or pursue jail time, if Flynn pled guilty to all charges, and testified against others. Secret deals between prosecutors and defendants are also against the law, but that didn't stop the Justice Department from pursuing it. Broke, beaten down, and in an attempt to protect his son, Flynn agreed to plead guilty, backed by his cheering Covington attorneys.

After Flynn's "guilty" plead was announced, the case moved on to court for sentencing. There, the Justice Department backed off on their agreement to no jail time, and pushed for maximum sentencing. Realizing he had been lied to and set up, both by the "Justice" Department and his attorneys, Flynn fired Covington and Burling, and hired Sidney Powell as his attorney. In contrast, that was the smartest thing he did.

After two years, in March 2019, the Mueller Investigation issued a long report with no proof of any Trump-Russia collusion, or any other real crime by Trump. They claimed that there may have been "obstruction", because Trump tweeted that he did not collude with Russia. In what situation is someone "guilty" of a crime, simply by stating that they are "not guilty" of a crime? Maximum absurdity, but that didn't stop the press from jumping on it for weeks.

Bill Barr, who was appointed U.S. Attorney General in February, 2019, assigned John Durham to investigate the actions of the Obama administration, Justice Department and FBI officials in their conduct of the spying, FISA approvals, and investigations of Trump and his administration. No official reports or indictments have been issued at this time, but the investigation is still underway.

There is a lot more this is just a high level summary of the Obama Administration and Justice Department officials un-ethical and probably illegal actions regarding Mike Flynn.
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I know - TLDR, and doesn't address the drama now with the "motion to withdraw" and the judge looking for a way to reject the motion. But I wanted to just discuss the action up to a few weeks ago. If someone knows of a better summary, or any facts I have wrong or are legitimately disputed, I would be happy for any feedback and comments.

JamesE4 said:

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I have been following this thread for over two years, as best as I can (I am not an attorney).

The part that makes me maddest is the way Flynn has been treated i this whole ordeal. I decided I want to do a Facebook post summarizing my thoughts, and put together this:

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There has been a lot of discussion since Trump tweeted "Obamagate" on Mother's Day. The MSM has been working overtime kicking out articles saying it is about nothing, etc.

I believe that what the Obama administration did, with the knowledge and leadership of Obama himself, is the largest and worst publicly known political scandal in our country's history. This is actually much worse than the "Watergate" scandal that took down Nixon. Their actions, combined with the Mueller investigation, was a "soft coup" attempt to topple an elected president, or at least hamper his administration for years, to try to keep them from focusing on doing good for the country.

I believe the now publicly available documents clearly show:

The Obama Administration, with active participation by leadership in the FBI and intelligence agencies, started a program to spy on Trump and those thought to be close to him, in 2016 before the election. Among others, this included spying on Michael Flynn.

They justified this spying program by getting FISA court approvals, based primarily on the "Steele Dossier". The "Steele Dossier" was a collection of rumors and lies claiming that Trump and his associates were colluding with Russia, against the best interests of the United States. It was funded by the DNC and the Hillary Campaign. The FBI agents that submitted this "proof" to the FISA court knew that the information it contained was not only "unverified", but many of its statements had actually been verified false, and many of them were likely Russian "dis-information", intentional falsehoods provided to Steele by Russia. Yet the FBI told the FISA court that the information was verified by the FBI. This is counter to FISA court rules, so the original spying program was approved based on lies. This is the only known time in documented U.S. history that a Presidential Administration has "spied" on its political opponents, both before and after the election.

Unfortunately for the Democrats, the spying program did not actually turn up any evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, or any other wrong-doing.

The CIA also had attempted to analyze who the Russians favor in the 2016 election, and what actions they might be taking to influence the results of the election. They found indicators that Russia favored both candidates, in fact finding stronger evidence that they favored Hillary, and wrote up a report stating that. The head of the CIA, James Clapper, altered the final report, removing the parts that said they favor Hillary, and only reporting on the items that implied they favor Trump. This report was issued on Jan 6, 2017.

When Trump won the election, the Obama conspirators realized that the man Trump had appointed as National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn, was likely to uncover the improper spying, and they set out to create a reason to get him discredited or fired.

Obama announce "sanctions" on Russia for allegedly meddling in the 2106 election (it appears that Russia has been "meddling" in U.S. presidential elections for decades, so it looks like they bought some Facebook ads and other low level attempts to increase discord in the U.S., but no evidence has come out that their actions had any impact on the election results).

Michael Flynn had a few phone calls with the Russian Ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, in late December 2016. Flynn had been announced as the incoming National Security Advisor. Flynn and Kislyak already had a relationship before the call. The Obama administration was monitoring Kislyak's calls, and were apparently independently monitoring Flynn's calls. It is not at all unusual for an incoming NSA to talk to Ambassadors from other countries. Apparently the insiders in the Obama Administration and FBI floated that the call was a violation of the "Logan Act", which forbids "non official Americans" from engaging in foreign policy. No one has ever been prosecuted for violations of this act, and it is routinely "violated" by lots of people of all political spectrums on a routine basis.

In early January, the Obama administration leaked to the friendly press that Michael Flynn had talked to Sergey Kislyak, and implied it was more evidence of "Trump-Russia Collusion". Whoever leaked the information to the Press did actually commit a crime. Likely to avoid fingering the "Leaker", the Obama administration made clear that dozens of their team had access to the transcripts, so that it could not easily be found who broke the law by leaking classified information. Note that the fact that the call was spied on itself is considered confidential the U.S. government doesn't want everyone to know when and how they spy on officials from other countries.

On January 24, 2017, the FBI sent two agents to the White House to interview Michael Flynn about the call with Kislyak. When asked to sit down with the FBI, Flynn asked if he should have a lawyer present, and McCabe (part of the FBI conspiracy team) said, no, you don't need a lawyer.

It seems clear that the purpose of the interview was to set a "perjury" trap. The agents did not inform the White House counsel before the interview so as to catch Flynn by surprise; they did not share the transcripts with Flynn during the interview (which would have allowed him to refresh his memory); they did not warn him that making false statements would be a crime all of which are standard procedure. Even so, both of the agents who questioned him came away with the impression that "Flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying." The FBI does not record these interviews a very questionable practice because they then rely on their notes and memory to claim what the interviewee stated, who in this case was alone in the room.

The transcript of the Flynn-Kislyak call has not been released, and apparently has never been made available to Flynn or his legal team (How his lawyers could recommend that he plead guilty to "lying" without Flynn or they actually reading the FBI transcript of the call is yet another amazing part of this story). Recently released notes indicate that in the interview, Flynn said he did not recall discussing Russian sanctions with Kislyak. Flynn reportedly told the FBI agents, "why are you asking me? I am sure you have the transcript". Therefore, he knew that the FBI already had the transcript of the call, and had no reason to ask him, other than to set a perjury trap. Knowing that, there is no way he would have intentionally lied to the FBI about the call.

The FBI agents prepared their notes "called form 302" and issued them to the FBI bosses. McCabe did not like that the notes said they did not think Flynn lied, so they "lost" the original notes, and McCabe edited the notes which were then issued as the "official FBI notes". These notes claimed that Flynn lied in his meeting with the FBI agents.

The FBI then leaked to the Press that Flynn had lied about his conversation with Kislyak. The furor from the Press lead to Flynn agreeing to resign as NSA.

So the Obama Team won, right? They succeeding in getting rid of Flynn. Time to celebrate and let it die, right? Wrong. They succeeded in getting Jeff Sessions, appointed U.S. Attorney General, to "recuse himself". In a fevered attempt to further discredit Trump, the crooked Justice Department told Flynn they were filing charges against him for "lying to the FBI" based on what he told the FBI. They also threw in "FARA" charges, claiming that Flynn had not represented his relationship with Turkey properly in documents he had filed in 2016. They also got the "acting" Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, to appoint Robert Mueller to lead a partisan team, paid for by U.S. taxpayers, to further investigate "Trump-Russia Collusion", and any other possible crimes they could try to lay on Trump.

Subsequent discovery, which is at the heart of the Justice Department's filing on May 7, 2020 to dismiss the Flynn charges, were based on the information that the FBI had already finished their investigation of Flynn prior to his meeting with the FBI agents, so there was no legitimate reason to even conduct an interview, and any statements he made were therefore not "material" to an investigation.

In response to the Justice Department telling Flynn they were filing charges against him, Flynn hired a law firm, Covington and Burling, to represent him in this matter. This was the biggest mistake Flynn made in the whole ordeal. The same law firm had represented him while filling out paperwork for the FARA paperwork, and therefore had a conflict of interest in representing him on charges that the paperwork was improper. This is also the Law Firm that Eric Holder, Obama's Attorney General/"wing man" worked for.

The Justice Department told Flynn that they would go after his son for "FARA" violations. They then made a secret deal that they would not go after his son, or pursue jail time, if Flynn pled guilty to all charges, and testified against others. Secret deals between prosecutors and defendants are also against the law, but that didn't stop the Justice Department from pursuing it. Broke, beaten down, and in an attempt to protect his son, Flynn agreed to plead guilty, backed by his cheering Covington attorneys.

After Flynn's "guilty" plead was announced, the case moved on to court for sentencing. There, the Justice Department backed off on their agreement to no jail time, and pushed for maximum sentencing. Realizing he had been lied to and set up, both by the "Justice" Department and his attorneys, Flynn fired Covington and Burling, and hired Sidney Powell as his attorney. In contrast, that was the smartest thing he did.

After two years, in March 2019, the Mueller Investigation issued a long report with no proof of any Trump-Russia collusion, or any other real crime by Trump. They claimed that there may have been "obstruction", because Trump tweeted that he did not collude with Russia. In what situation is someone "guilty" of a crime, simply by stating that they are "not guilty" of a crime? Maximum absurdity, but that didn't stop the press from jumping on it for weeks.

Bill Barr, who was appointed U.S. Attorney General in February, 2019, assigned John Durham to investigate the actions of the Obama administration, Justice Department and FBI officials in their conduct of the spying, FISA approvals, and investigations of Trump and his administration. No official reports or indictments have been issued at this time, but the investigation is still underway.

There is a lot more this is just a high level summary of the Obama Administration and Justice Department officials un-ethical and probably illegal actions regarding Mike Flynn.
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I know - TLDR, and doesn't address the drama now with the "motion to withdraw" and the judge looking for a way to reject the motion. But I wanted to just discuss the action up to a few weeks ago. If someone knows of a better summary, or any facts I have wrong or are legitimately disputed, I would be happy for any feedback and comments.

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Oh dear! Have you posted that yet because--don't. Many factual errors as well as legal ones. I'll post the details soon.

Holy book batman. Maybe instead of bottling up your thoughts over a period of time you condense them down. **** man thats nearly a full page here in length. Not even going to both reading the damn diatribe.

JamesE4 said:

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I have been following this thread for over two years, as best as I can (I am not an attorney).

The part that makes me maddest is the way Flynn has been treated i this whole ordeal. I decided I want to do a Facebook post summarizing my thoughts, and put together this:

--------------------------------------
There has been a lot of discussion since Trump tweeted "Obamagate" on Mother's Day. The MSM has been working overtime kicking out articles saying it is about nothing, etc.

I believe that what the Obama administration did, with the knowledge and leadership of Obama himself, is the largest and worst publicly known political scandal in our country's history. This is actually much worse than the "Watergate" scandal that took down Nixon. Their actions, combined with the Mueller investigation, was a "soft coup" attempt to topple an elected president, or at least hamper his administration for years, to try to keep them from focusing on doing good for the country.

I believe the now publicly available documents clearly show:

The Obama Administration, with active participation by leadership in the FBI and intelligence agencies, started a program to spy on Trump and those thought to be close to him, in 2016 before the election. Among others, this included spying on Michael Flynn.

They justified this spying program by getting FISA court approvals, based primarily on the "Steele Dossier". The "Steele Dossier" was a collection of rumors and lies claiming that Trump and his associates were colluding with Russia, against the best interests of the United States. It was funded by the DNC and the Hillary Campaign. The FBI agents that submitted this "proof" to the FISA court knew that the information it contained was not only "unverified", but many of its statements had actually been verified false, and many of them were likely Russian "dis-information", intentional falsehoods provided to Steele by Russia. Yet the FBI told the FISA court that the information was verified by the FBI. This is counter to FISA court rules, so the original spying program was approved based on lies. This is the only known time in documented U.S. history that a Presidential Administration has "spied" on its political opponents, both before and after the election.

Unfortunately for the Democrats, the spying program did not actually turn up any evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, or any other wrong-doing.

The CIA also had attempted to analyze who the Russians favor in the 2016 election, and what actions they might be taking to influence the results of the election. They found indicators that Russia favored both candidates, in fact finding stronger evidence that they favored Hillary, and wrote up a report stating that. The head of the CIA, James Clapper, altered the final report, removing the parts that said they favor Hillary, and only reporting on the items that implied they favor Trump. This report was issued on Jan 6, 2017.

When Trump won the election, the Obama conspirators realized that the man Trump had appointed as National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn, was likely to uncover the improper spying, and they set out to create a reason to get him discredited or fired.

Obama announce "sanctions" on Russia for allegedly meddling in the 2106 election (it appears that Russia has been "meddling" in U.S. presidential elections for decades, so it looks like they bought some Facebook ads and other low level attempts to increase discord in the U.S., but no evidence has come out that their actions had any impact on the election results).

Michael Flynn had a few phone calls with the Russian Ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, in late December 2016. Flynn had been announced as the incoming National Security Advisor. Flynn and Kislyak already had a relationship before the call. The Obama administration was monitoring Kislyak's calls, and were apparently independently monitoring Flynn's calls. It is not at all unusual for an incoming NSA to talk to Ambassadors from other countries. Apparently the insiders in the Obama Administration and FBI floated that the call was a violation of the "Logan Act", which forbids "non official Americans" from engaging in foreign policy. No one has ever been prosecuted for violations of this act, and it is routinely "violated" by lots of people of all political spectrums on a routine basis.

In early January, the Obama administration leaked to the friendly press that Michael Flynn had talked to Sergey Kislyak, and implied it was more evidence of "Trump-Russia Collusion". Whoever leaked the information to the Press did actually commit a crime. Likely to avoid fingering the "Leaker", the Obama administration made clear that dozens of their team had access to the transcripts, so that it could not easily be found who broke the law by leaking classified information. Note that the fact that the call was spied on itself is considered confidential the U.S. government doesn't want everyone to know when and how they spy on officials from other countries.

On January 24, 2017, the FBI sent two agents to the White House to interview Michael Flynn about the call with Kislyak. When asked to sit down with the FBI, Flynn asked if he should have a lawyer present, and McCabe (part of the FBI conspiracy team) said, no, you don't need a lawyer.

It seems clear that the purpose of the interview was to set a "perjury" trap. The agents did not inform the White House counsel before the interview so as to catch Flynn by surprise; they did not share the transcripts with Flynn during the interview (which would have allowed him to refresh his memory); they did not warn him that making false statements would be a crime all of which are standard procedure. Even so, both of the agents who questioned him came away with the impression that "Flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying." The FBI does not record these interviews a very questionable practice because they then rely on their notes and memory to claim what the interviewee stated, who in this case was alone in the room.

The transcript of the Flynn-Kislyak call has not been released, and apparently has never been made available to Flynn or his legal team (How his lawyers could recommend that he plead guilty to "lying" without Flynn or they actually reading the FBI transcript of the call is yet another amazing part of this story). Recently released notes indicate that in the interview, Flynn said he did not recall discussing Russian sanctions with Kislyak. Flynn reportedly told the FBI agents, "why are you asking me? I am sure you have the transcript". Therefore, he knew that the FBI already had the transcript of the call, and had no reason to ask him, other than to set a perjury trap. Knowing that, there is no way he would have intentionally lied to the FBI about the call.

The FBI agents prepared their notes "called form 302" and issued them to the FBI bosses. McCabe did not like that the notes said they did not think Flynn lied, so they "lost" the original notes, and McCabe edited the notes which were then issued as the "official FBI notes". These notes claimed that Flynn lied in his meeting with the FBI agents.

The FBI then leaked to the Press that Flynn had lied about his conversation with Kislyak. The furor from the Press lead to Flynn agreeing to resign as NSA.

So the Obama Team won, right? They succeeding in getting rid of Flynn. Time to celebrate and let it die, right? Wrong. They succeeded in getting Jeff Sessions, appointed U.S. Attorney General, to "recuse himself". In a fevered attempt to further discredit Trump, the crooked Justice Department told Flynn they were filing charges against him for "lying to the FBI" based on what he told the FBI. They also threw in "FARA" charges, claiming that Flynn had not represented his relationship with Turkey properly in documents he had filed in 2016. They also got the "acting" Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, to appoint Robert Mueller to lead a partisan team, paid for by U.S. taxpayers, to further investigate "Trump-Russia Collusion", and any other possible crimes they could try to lay on Trump.

Subsequent discovery, which is at the heart of the Justice Department's filing on May 7, 2020 to dismiss the Flynn charges, were based on the information that the FBI had already finished their investigation of Flynn prior to his meeting with the FBI agents, so there was no legitimate reason to even conduct an interview, and any statements he made were therefore not "material" to an investigation.

In response to the Justice Department telling Flynn they were filing charges against him, Flynn hired a law firm, Covington and Burling, to represent him in this matter. This was the biggest mistake Flynn made in the whole ordeal. The same law firm had represented him while filling out paperwork for the FARA paperwork, and therefore had a conflict of interest in representing him on charges that the paperwork was improper. This is also the Law Firm that Eric Holder, Obama's Attorney General/"wing man" worked for.

The Justice Department told Flynn that they would go after his son for "FARA" violations. They then made a secret deal that they would not go after his son, or pursue jail time, if Flynn pled guilty to all charges, and testified against others. Secret deals between prosecutors and defendants are also against the law, but that didn't stop the Justice Department from pursuing it. Broke, beaten down, and in an attempt to protect his son, Flynn agreed to plead guilty, backed by his cheering Covington attorneys.

After Flynn's "guilty" plead was announced, the case moved on to court for sentencing. There, the Justice Department backed off on their agreement to no jail time, and pushed for maximum sentencing. Realizing he had been lied to and set up, both by the "Justice" Department and his attorneys, Flynn fired Covington and Burling, and hired Sidney Powell as his attorney. In contrast, that was the smartest thing he did.

After two years, in March 2019, the Mueller Investigation issued a long report with no proof of any Trump-Russia collusion, or any other real crime by Trump. They claimed that there may have been "obstruction", because Trump tweeted that he did not collude with Russia. In what situation is someone "guilty" of a crime, simply by stating that they are "not guilty" of a crime? Maximum absurdity, but that didn't stop the press from jumping on it for weeks.

Bill Barr, who was appointed U.S. Attorney General in February, 2019, assigned John Durham to investigate the actions of the Obama administration, Justice Department and FBI officials in their conduct of the spying, FISA approvals, and investigations of Trump and his administration. No official reports or indictments have been issued at this time, but the investigation is still underway.

There is a lot more this is just a high level summary of the Obama Administration and Justice Department officials un-ethical and probably illegal actions regarding Mike Flynn.
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I know - TLDR, and doesn't address the drama now with the "motion to withdraw" and the judge looking for a way to reject the motion. But I wanted to just discuss the action up to a few weeks ago. If someone knows of a better summary, or any facts I have wrong or are legitimately disputed, I would be happy for any feedback and comments.

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VaultingChemist said:

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Is it possible for one honest investigative reporter to change the culture of a main stream news organization?

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I've been hoping that Herridge was a planned move to "infiltrate" the MSM and change it from the inside out. Good work so far

Hopeful thinking. We'd have to tear down the whole system and start fresh. No possibility for infiltration. Besides, with the advent of the internet, we really dont need centralized points of information givers. Just arm the populace with a sharpened mind to discern fact from fiction and let the free market of ideas reign. CBS vs nbc vs MSNBC vs Fox News vs CNN vs... is how we got here in the first place. It's not about right vs left it's not about red vs blue. Its about truth whomever the source.

This should tell you all you need to know about Rubio...

i hate the gop.

https://www.usatoday.com/documents/6893872-Notice-Other/


Jensen interviewed Priestap on May 5, 2020, & the DOJ has just submitted a copy of the interview to Sullivan & Sidney Powell. Oh, to be a fly on the wall....

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This should tell you all you need to know about Rubio...

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Not unexpected, sadly. Marco is a wuss.

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https://www.usatoday.com/documents/6893872-Notice-Other/


Jensen interviewed Priestap on May 5, 2020, & the DOJ has just submitted a copy of the interview to Sullivan & Sidney Powell. Oh, to be a fly on the wall....

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WooHoo! I wondered if Jensen had found something else.

condolences for the pending suicide of your post...

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Heh, heh, heh. You friggin' asked for it Sullivan. You got it!

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pretty sure that wasn't the response sullivan was asking for... oh well sometimes you get what you deserve!

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condolences for the pending suicide of your post...

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Was I that harsh? I certainly never intended to be.

Thanks so much, Aggiehawg! I really appreciate it.

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condolences for the pending suicide of your post...

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Was I that harsh? I certainly never intended to be.

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I haven't made it to your critique yet, my comment dealt only with the "post on facebook" part of his post.

added: you were not harsh at all, I would characterize your comments as factual (as far as I know) and helpful.
However I am still quite cynical about the lifespan of james post on facebook.

https://www.scribd.com/document/462033805/Flynn-State-AGs-Amicus

Amicus brief filed by the States' Attorney Generals in the Flynn case. Rather strongly worded...