https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-durham-expands-investigative-team-amid-coronavirus-outbreak

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...The top federal prosecutor for Connecticut selected additional team members for his investigative effort in recent weeks, adding agents from the FBI, as well as the chief of the violent crimes and narcotics trafficking section for the U.S. attorney's office in Washington, D.C., Anthony Scarpelli, according to sources cited by CNN....


Prior to nationwide coronavirus lockdown orders, CNN reported Durham had been spending multiple days each week inside a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility reviewing classified documents related to the federal government's investigations into Russian interference and Trump's campaign. The report said Durham is also taking a close look at the FBI's deeply flawed Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act targeting onetime Trump campaign associate Carter Page....

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law-apt-3g said:

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FBI must have pics of Gowdy snorting coke off a hookers ass to make him quit the Nunez Gowdy dynamic duo. Gowdy has pretty much ghosted the public.

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May mean he's deeply involved with investigation/upcoming litigation. One can hope...but not very convinced.

This is interesting regarding Steele's Primary Sub-source (PSS), especially reading some of the commentary associated with these tweets. Speculations from the latter:
1) Perhaps the PSS initially contacted the FBI & identified himself.
2) Assuming the PSS was Shvets (as covered previously in our thread), he was affiliated with the HRC Campaign & may have initiated contact with the FBI via his attorney, thereby ensuring favorable treatment similar to other HRC cronies...& perhaps an immunity deal as well.

I wonder which legal group represented the PSS?

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I wonder which legal group represented the PSS?

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I'd wager it was one of three. Perkins, Coie or Baker, Hostetler or Blasey-Ford "beach friends" lawyers. The last one is my WAG.

Without the blindfold!!

So if they are still bringing more people on, does this mean more delays? I figure IF President Trump is going to get some boost out of it, he would be hoping it would come sooner rather than later. But for max exposure, it will need to wait until after most of the WuFlu has blown over.

Now if the DOJ is apolitical then DOJ could care less when it comes out.

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So if they are still bringing more people on, does this mean more delays? I figure IF President Trump is going to get some boost out of it, he would be hoping it would come sooner rather than later. But for max exposure, it will need to wait until after most of the WuFlu has blown over.

Now if the DOJ is apolitical then DOJ could care less when it comes out.

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More people would indicate more grand juries. He's bringing in department heads and that indicates to me he needs the best to present matters before grand juries.

My .02.

Does that mean we're closer to indictments or just expanded investigations or both? I'm hoping it's both.

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Does that mean we're closer to indictments or just expanded investigations or both? I'm hoping it's both.

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No U.S. Attorney is going to present a case to a grand jury that they have questions about the solidity of their case. And using grand juries to get subpoenas for witnesses and documents so it can be both expanding investigations which increases the likelihood of indictments.

Is that clearer?

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akm91 said:

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Does that mean we're closer to indictments or just expanded investigations or both? I'm hoping it's both.

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No U.S. Attorney is going to present a case to a grand jury that they have questions about the solidity of their case. And using grand juries to get subpoenas for witnesses and documents so it can be both expanding investigations which increases the likelihood of indictments.

Is that clearer?

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So, sounds like Plan C

LOL. There can be a grand jury investigation that does not result in the attorney running it asking for a bill of indictment. It isn't the standard practice but it does happen.

But the main point being he's still feeling the need to add prosecutors.

How does it work with a GJ, subpoenas, and indictments, when it comes to classified information, especially SCIF information? I assume you know I'm asking about culpable information that's classified, but you can't bring it to trial because so few people have clearance.

I bring this up due to the article stating Durham has spent some time recently in a SCIF.

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LOL. There can be a grand jury investigation that does not result in the attorney running it asking for a bill of indictment. It isn't the standard practice but it does happen.

But the main point being he's still feeling the need to add prosecutors.

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Seems unlikely to add prosecutors (rather high powered, too) then not indict, right?

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aggiehawg said:

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LOL. There can be a grand jury investigation that does not result in the attorney running it asking for a bill of indictment. It isn't the standard practice but it does happen.

But the main point being he's still feeling the need to add prosecutors.

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Seems unlikely to add prosecutors (rather high powered, it seems) then not indict, right?

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Yes. It is counter-intuitive. It's not like these guys in the US Attorneys offices are sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Also, for Durham to get these additional prosecutors and their FBI teams, he has to get Barr's approval.

So take that into consideration as well. Barr agrees there is a legitimate need for them. That's not inconsequential.

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aggiehawg said:

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LOL. There can be a grand jury investigation that does not result in the attorney running it asking for a bill of indictment. It isn't the standard practice but it does happen.

But the main point being he's still feeling the need to add prosecutors.

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Seems unlikely to add prosecutors (rather high powered, it seems) then not indict, right?

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Yes. It is counter-intuitive. It's not like these guys in the US Attorneys offices are sitting around twiddling their thumbs. Also, for Durham to get these additional prosecutors and their FBI teams, he has to get Barr's approval.

So take that into consideration as well. Barr agrees there is a legitimate need for them. That's not inconsequential.

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Get more coffins ready...



Imagine a lot of these guys are frustrated and angry at the activities of their previous bosses and the level of disgrace they brought to their agencies. Motivation will not be lacking.

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How does it work with a GJ, subpoenas, and indictments, when it comes to classified information, especially SCIF information? I assume you know I'm asking about culpable information that's classified, but you can't bring it to trial because so few people have clearance.

I bring this up due to the article stating Durham has spent some time recently in a SCIF.

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TBH, I have never been involved with a case involving the invocation of the Classified Information Procedures Act but I'm sure it covers that situation. And you can bring those cases to trial, as Judge Ellis stated during the lead up to the Manafort trial, that he was well versed in CIPA and used it to try espionage and terrorism cases in the past.

Generally speaking, proceedings are closed to the public and all court documents are under seal. Sometimes those cases are not by grand jury indictment but are charged by information where the prosecutors and FBI special agents provide sworn affidavits in support of the charges.

Last thing to bear in mind is that Barr has declass authority. So there is always that avenue as well. It will be his decision on which way to proceed in consultation with Durham as to the use of classified information.

HTH.

In reference to the new committee that Schiff is standing up about the WuFlu...

aggiehawg said:

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fasthorse05 said:

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How does it work with a GJ, subpoenas, and indictments, when it comes to classified information, especially SCIF information? I assume you know I'm asking about culpable information that's classified, but you can't bring it to trial because so few people have clearance.

I bring this up due to the article stating Durham has spent some time recently in a SCIF.

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TBH, I have never been involved with a case involving the invocation of the Classified Information Procedures Act but I'm sure it covers that situation. And you can bring those cases to trial, as Judge Ellis stated during the lead up to the Manafort trial, that he was well versed in CIPA and used it to try espionage and terrorism cases in the past.

Generally speaking, proceedings are closed to the public and all court documents are under seal. Sometimes those cases are not by grand jury indictment but are charged by information where the prosecutors and FBI special agents provide sworn affidavits in support of the charges.

Last thing to bear in mind is that Barr has declass authority. So there is always that avenue as well. It will be his decision on which way to proceed in consultation with Durham as to the use of classified information.

HTH.

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Hawg, I admit I have been getting a little discouraged these past few months, but your posts today give me hope that justice will be done. Once again, thanks for always being here to Hawgsplain this stuff us IANAL types!!

You're welcome. After Barr said that if there are criminal cases to be made, he will make sure they are brought a few days ago and now this report that Durham is still adding prosecutors, with Barr's agreement, I take that as a positive.

Wheels of justice turn slowly but at least they are still turning!

The footnote which was additionally unredacted (bolded) that allowed the above revelation was Footnote 166 on Page 52 which stated:

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According to Legat, the senior intelligence official stated at the meeting with the USG official that the FFG information "sounds like an FBI matter."

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So Haspel in effect rendered an opinion that Downer's 'intel' would be of interest to the FBI. I doubt this is anything sticky. I would assume that any competent CIA official occupying her position at the time would have said the same thing. After all, Legat = FBI's Legal Attach.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/23/christopher-steele-dossier-deleted-emails-source/

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• Christopher Steele told a British court last month that he no longer has key documents related to his infamous dossier.
• The ex-spy said in a deposition that his email accounts were 'wiped' clean of any correspondence related to the dossier. It is not clear if Steele deleted the accounts himself.
• He also admitted he no does not have information related to debriefings he had in 2016 with his lone source of information for the dossier.
• Steele suggested in a statement late last year that he 'meticulously documented and recorded' his meetings with the source.

Christopher Steele told a British court last month that he no longer has documents and other information from his meetings with the main source for his Trump dossier, suggesting that the former British spy has no way of backing up his side in a dispute with the Justice Department's inspector general (IG), according to a deposition transcript obtained by the Daily Caller News Foundation.

Steele also told the court that his communications regarding the dossier, including with Fusion GPS, were "wiped" in December 2016 and January 2017, the transcript shows.

The former MI6 officer made the disclosures during a March 17-18 deposition in a defamation case related to the dossier. The DCNF obtained a transcript of the deposition......

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He must have become an ardent student of his master...Hillary.

Wonder if one of the alphabet agencies has them?

Chalk up a mark in the "good" column for ole Gina. I've vacillated on her for a long, long time.

It's a small comment, but makes me feel better about the CIA after that vindictive, wretched ******* Brennan ran it.

He wiped it the same day as the inauguration, when rice wrote herself the "do everything by the books" memo. The FBI helped create the fraud they weren't duped at all.

Apparently Asha went about getting a FISA warrant the "wrong" way.

What is sad is that he did correctly lay out the procedures when he wrote that in March 2017. Of course we now know that few of those procedures were actually followed in the case of Carter Page and possibly more people.

Bet there is no follow up article by Asha lambasting the POS's that circumvented the procedures, making him look like a total idiot.

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He wiped it the same day as the inauguration, when rice wrote herself the "do everything by the books" memo. The FBI helped create the fraud they weren't duped at all.

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Yeah, if the FBI plans to use the "we were duped defense" it will be the most embarrassing day in the history of the bureau.
On another note, what's the word on the supposed indictments hitting twitter? Fake?

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In short, the FISA warrant process is designed to protect against the very abuse of power that the President has accused his predecessor of exercising. You could even say that FISA applications go through an "extreme vetting" process before being granted something that the Trump administration ought to support.

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Asha doing his best Adam Schiff impersonation.

RUMP. Yeah, that crop wasn't coincidental. Or maybe it was.

Anyhow, yes, his belief in the process counts on all those using it to actually always follow it without prejudice and bias. Clearly it can be subverted or circumvented or run over roughshod if enough people are self assured enough of guilt to be sufficiently motivated to do their own little part to cut corners or bend rules, or break them because they perceive the circumstances to be sufficiently dire in their own personal narrative view.