Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Not when I'm done with it.
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No one on this board has seen Hawg and Sidney together.
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VegasAg86 said:

No one on this board has seen Hawg and Sidney together.
And never will.
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BTW, Solomon was on some Fox show last night (Hannity I think), and said he believes there will be significant changes and accountability for the system, and those involved in Spygate. BUT, he also believes there will only be 1 or 2 indictments!!

I was very depressed, and absolutely don't understand. Let's assume Barr and Durham are righteous guys, and also assume there are actually US statutes against the actions of about 30 people, or so. One last thing, even though 95% of DC is Democratic, there are still enough decent folks who will uphold the law as it is written.

Assuming the above is true, how on Soros's green earth can Solomon's comment be correct? There have been several folks, Rapier 108 to name a few, who are convinced nothing will happen to anyone. That's fine, everyone has an opinion, and I respect that. However, this was an absolute coup attempt, and candidly, there was more than one attempt.

I may not be Mr. Optimistic on Sypgate, but I've always believed in Bill Bennet's comment about the US being the last best chance, and we've always figured out a way to overcome. Now, that doesn't mean we'll be around forever in this form, with freedom and liberty as written and enacted in 1792 (or 1789, whenever the Constitution was written), but I expect us to be a leader while were all alive.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
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fasthorse05 said:

BTW, Solomon was on some Fox show last night (Hannity I think), and said he believes there will be significant changes and accountability for the system, and those involved in Spygate. BUT, he also believes there will only be 1 or 2 indictments!!

I was very depressed, and absolutely don't understand. Let's assume Barr and Durham are righteous guys, and also assume there are actually US statutes against the actions of about 30 people, or so. One last thing, even though 95% of DC is Democratic, there are still enough decent folks who will uphold the law as it is written.

Assuming the above is true, how on Soros's green earth can Solomon's comment be correct? There have been several folks, Rapier 108 to name a few, who are convinced nothing will happen to anyone. That's fine, everyone has an opinion, and I respect that. However, this was an absolute coup attempt, and candidly, there was more than one attempt.

I may not be Mr. Optimistic on Sypgate, but I've always believed in Bill Bennet's comment about the US being the last best chance, and we've always figured out a way to overcome. Now, that doesn't mean we'll be around forever in this form, with freedom and liberty as written and enacted in 1792 (or 1789, whenever the Constitution was written), but I expect us to be a leader while were all alive.

Sometimes think the magnitude of DC corruption is soooooo vast and intermingled, it would shut down our entire government if all who are guilty were incarcerated.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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fasthorse05 said:

BTW, Solomon was on some Fox show last night (Hannity I think), and said he believes there will be significant changes and accountability for the system, and those involved in Spygate. BUT, he also believes there will only be 1 or 2 indictments!!
The problem is that many of those involved can probably use the "I was just following orders" excuse. Heck, they might even throw Obama under the bus, knowing that there is no way Obama would ever be indicted.

But if there are only two indictments, it needs to be John Brennan and James Comey.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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I don't have anything to add but I just got so excited that a non-virus thread jumped to the top.

Carry-on!
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"the US being the last best chance, and we've always figured out a way to overcome"

We are not the shining city on the hill like we once were. Sadly, I have resigned myself to hope for what once was. I am hoping something happens, but I am now of the opinion that the swamp is too deep. Nothing will happen to anyone with any political power. Some underlings may be in trouble, but they will be taken care of and that will be the end of it. Trump, by himself, pulled back the curtain on so many things, but these people are protected. We make fun of other countries having corrupt governments and being Banana Republics. We are the same in many ways, only we have true power. This started in the 60's but these last 20yrs or so have absolutely solidified And codified the criminal element inside our government. They operate with reckless abandon without fear of consequences. Even these investigations are helping them cover it up by it taking so long. We KNOW and have solid proof of so many crimes, yet no indictments. This is by design. Very few are even paying attention anymore, coupled with an ignorant and apathetic electorate, nothing is going to change.
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Rapier108 said:

fasthorse05 said:

BTW, Solomon was on some Fox show last night (Hannity I think), and said he believes there will be significant changes and accountability for the system, and those involved in Spygate. BUT, he also believes there will only be 1 or 2 indictments!!
The problem is that many of those involved can probably use the "I was just following orders" excuse. Heck, they might even throw Obama under the bus, knowing that there is no way Obama would ever be indicted.

But if there are only two indictments, it needs to be John Brennan and James Comey.
Hell. The Nuremberg Defense?

Hitler was dead. Obama, Comey, Lynch and the rest are not dead....yet.
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Sydney's pissed.
Can I go to sleep Looch?
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If Comey does no go to Jail we have no country!
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Agnzona said:

If Comey does no go to Jail we have no country!

Well you better prepare yourself.....
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will25u said:


Just watched her speech, not all the question/answer at the end. Did listen to her response concerning Anthony Weiner's laptop and how disgusted some of the NYPD were after reading emails.

Thank you for the link.

I do not have as much faith Sidney Powell has in AJ Barr, nor Durham. For the sake of our country I hope I am wrong.
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still one of the best threads in this forum, thanks for all your hard work, you guys make it easy for those that cant decipher all the legal talk and just bringing all these documents to the thread.

General Flynn deserves some form of national recognition after getting screwed over by the Obama administration, all to hide their own corruption..

Thanks
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Nothing will happen. I've finally admitted it to myself. It's almost unbelievable to me these asshats are getting off Scot free. The swamp is very deep. So deep that even a President can do little about it.

I'd like to see at least Comey and that other smug asshat go to prison, but even that appears to be a pipe dream.
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I'm not giving up until November 2020 at the earliest, and November 2024 at the latest. As long as Trump is in office, I'm holding onto hope.

And anyone saying "nothing will happen" is talking out of their ass at this point.
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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https://bongino.com/report-durham-probe-to-wrap-up-by-summer

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U.S. Attorney John Durham will wrap up his investigation into the origins of the FBI's hoax Russia probe by summer's end, according to sources who spoke to Fox News.

The news outlet was told that the investigation could end as soon as July, however, another source indicated it could conclude closer to September, and cited the coronavirus pandemic as one reason for the possible delay.

Rep. Jim Jordan also confirmed the timing last week, and said, "His investigation is due to be completed sometime this summer."

In October, it was reported that the U.S. Attorney's probe into FBI misconduct had transitioned into a criminal investigation. One source told Fox News that Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report on the FBI's FISA application abuses would "shed light on why Durham's probe has become a criminal inquiry."

Former ranking House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA) told Fox News last month he expects Durham's probe to lead to criminal charges. "This is not going to be a Mueller report; there won't be a report," he said.

"When he's ready to charge people, he'll charge people," Collins continued. "And that's when we'll know."

A December New York Times report claims that Durham's investigation is focusing, in part, on former CIA Director John Brennan and his communications with former FBI Director James Comey.

Durham "has requested Mr. Brennan's emails, call logs and other documents from the C.I.A.He wants to learn what Mr. Brennan told other officials, including the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey, about his and the C.I.A.'s views of a notorious dossier of assertions about Russia and Trump associates," writes the Times.

Attorney General William Barr appointed Durham to investigate the FBI's handling of the Russia probe in May 2019. Durham has previously investigated corruption in law enforcement and the destruction of CIA videos.
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https://www.scribd.com/document/451950605/US-v-Concord

Wow! Eric Dubelier!!
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First off, kudos to you drcrinum for blocking out all of the white noise going on to stay focused enough to keep this thread updated.

Second, as you well know I have been quite critical of the Concord case (Internet Research case but Concord showed up to present a defense) the whole time, going as far as saying first year law students wouldn't make such idiotic arguments that Team Mueller did in this case. It was quite embarrassing actually that these cream of the crop lawyers could even make those arguments with a straight face, or that the judge even went along with such nonsense for this long a period of time.

Putting all of that aside however, DOJ shutting the farce down indicates to me that Durham is making decisions about Team Mueller and telling Barr what he has in the pipeline. This move of dismissal is total capitulation. Perhaps it has to do with the hack of the DNC not being a hack? And Durham now has proof?

(Fingers crossed I am correct in that assessment.)

Of course the more mundane explanation is that DOJ finally got it that they have a chain of custody issue since the FBI never took custody of the servers.
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aggiehawg said:

First off, kudos to you drcrinum for blocking out all of the white noise going on to stay focused enough to keep this thread updated.

Second, as you well know I have been quite critical of the Concord case (Internet Research case but Concord showed up to present a defense) the whole time, going as far as saying first year law students wouldn't make such idiotic arguments that Team Mueller did in this case. It was quite embarrassing actually that these cream of the crop lawyers could even make those arguments with a straight face, or that the judge even went along with such nonsense for this long a period of time.

Putting all of that aside however, DOJ shutting the farce down indicates to me that Durham is making decisions about Team Mueller and telling Barr what he has in the pipeline. This move of dismissal is total capitulation. Perhaps it has to do with the hack of the DNC not being a hack? And Durham now has proof?

(Fingers crossed I am correct in that assessment.)

Of course the more mundane explanation is that DOJ finally got it that they have a chain of custody issue since the FBI never took custody of the servers.
This was the one they appeared without being served and the government didn't want them to be allowed to appear because they hadn't been served, right?

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VegasAg86 said:


This was the one they appeared without being served and the government didn't want them to be allowed to appear because they hadn't been served, right?


I really don't recall about that particular matter, but there were definitely some issues about the summons. See below in the lower tweet from Techno_Fog where there are copies of 2 emails:


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Pretty sure that's it. Seems that email troubled the prosecution. He didn't agree to accept service, so the prosecution tried to argue Concord hadn't been served. Ignoring the fact his general appearance waived any service complaints.
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This was the one they appeared without being served and the government didn't want them to be allowed to appear because they hadn't been served, right?
Exactly. There is not a prosecutor in the US who would even think about arguing such horses*** because they already won.
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Does anyone think something similar will happen in the Flynn case? If so, Mueller investigation collapses completely.
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That attorney for Concord comes off like a badass. Dayum
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captkirk said:

Does anyone think something similar will happen in the Flynn case? If so, Mueller investigation collapses completely.
Frankly, I'm surprised Judge Sullivan hasn't tossed his case yet. But I do think there is a decent chance that Barr shuts it down at some point. The prosecution team has botched things, badly. Not as nearly as badly as in the Concord case but new revelations of hidden Brady material keeps dribbling out, so that could change.
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Hawg, do you think the prosecution team was incompetent, or were the DOJ lawyers fighting an uphill battle from the very beginning, and were forced to use risky legal maneuvers to keep the trial going forward?
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
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dreyOO said:

That attorney for Concord comes off like a badass. Dayum
To be fair, the prosecution was borderline incompetent and served up a lot of taters.

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aggiehawg said:

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This was the one they appeared without being served and the government didn't want them to be allowed to appear because they hadn't been served, right?
Exactly. There is not a prosecutor in the US who would even think about arguing such horses*** because they already won.
It was a Charlie Strong kicking off both halves level of stupid.
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