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I can figure out a lot of what y'all say, but in this case, can you enlighten me?

Will the implications be good, or bad? And if Liu was going to be confirmed in front of the Senate, Barr HAD to have known certain questions would be asked, so why now? It sounds Liu shouldn't have been nominated to start with.

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Long and detailed to wade through but worth the effort.. Possible implications are summarized at the end.

Conservative Treehouse: The DC Cover-up That's As Big As Spygate

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So what is bad about Liu in the confirmation questioning? Because it would impact an ongoing investigation? They don't want all that out until their investigation is done?

I mean if Sundance can piece that together with public information, what is the problem with it coming out?

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• Is it even possible for the United States Dept. of Justice to conduct a trial where members of the Gang of Eight were implicated in the activity?
• How could the institutions of the United States government survive the publicity of members within the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence conspiring with foreign and domestic actors to eliminate the President of the United States?

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• Is it even possible for the United States Dept. of Justice to conduct a trial where members of the Gang of Eight were implicated in the activity?
• How could the institutions of the United States government survive the publicity of members within the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence conspiring with foreign and domestic actors to eliminate the President of the United States?

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So we just live with the horrible corruption in our government? La de da nothing to see here.

I would imagine Barr wants all the ducks lined up before this information is out in the public where it can be spun by the swamp and their mouthpieces.

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Lou Dobbs must have read Sundance's account at The Conservative Treehouse.

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Isn't this what ****y Schumer is trying to say Barr and Trump are doing for Stone?

We need a Special Council investigation of Warner, Burr and Feinstein

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• Is it even possible for the United States Dept. of Justice to conduct a trial where members of the Gang of Eight were implicated in the activity?
• How could the institutions of the United States government survive the publicity of members within the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence conspiring with foreign and domestic actors to eliminate the President of the United States?

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So we just live with the horrible corruption in our government? La de da nothing to see here.

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Too big to fail. Too corrupt to expose

Okay, and DAMN!

I'm now up to speed, and can only say WOW. This would fit with my personal view of Burr. There are several folks on that committee I really like, and would like to think they were uninformed.

However, THIS is the kind of news that would be very difficult to spin, and IMO, is the exact thing Trump is looking for to seriously damage the swamp.

Jeeez Louise!!

And yes, I'm sure someone like a Durham could handle it,, as I don't want to wait for three more years, but if Barr could find someone like Durham, then I'd rather go that route. I hate Special Prosecutors.

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So what is bad about Liu in the confirmation questioning? Because it would impact an ongoing investigation? They don't want all that out until their investigation is done?

I mean if Sundance can piece that together with public information, what is the problem with it coming out?

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She got chewed up in the DC swamp like a chicken on a hook hanging from a tree on a bayou. Gator bait.

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Some of the things you write would make John Grisham proud!

I hope so!

I've got to admit, I never saw this one coming (that's what she said). Based on so many circumstantial reports and articles, I never even thought this was something that could take place, even though very little of Sundance's write-up has been proven. He did do a hell of a job of creating questions, and a hell of a lot of potential outcomes.

Of course, Daniel Silva, Clancy, and le Carre wouldn't have been able to come up with this. All I really want to know tonight, or soon, is Barr/Durham on top of this? If so, I'm fine. However, if the investigation is on, then the choices of which direction to go once its completed are numerous, and will severely dent the American political landscape.

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The funny thing about your post is that I had a case that would have given Clancy a run for his money in a fictional account in the early 80s. But it was classified. For all I know, the details still are classified.

Helluva case, with a lot of twist and turns, including a plane carrying me and a few other lawyers nearly crashing in a private plane in the midst of it. We survived but it was a close call. DOD had good reasons to kill us. We were going down a path they didn't want us to go.

After the airplane incident, the incitement to settle from the federal magistrate became insistent. I know my client didn't pay much at all. Have no idea how much the federal government paid to the plaintiffs to shut them up outside of the legal process. Back then? I'd guess a mil or maybe two was sufficient.

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The funny thing about your post is that I had a case that would have given Clancy a run for his money in a fictional account in the early 80s. But it was classified. For all I know, the details still are classified.

Helluva case, with a lot of twist and turns, including a plane carrying me and a few other lawyers nearly crashing in a private plane in the midst of it. We survived but it was a close call. DOD had good reasons to kill us. We were going down a path they didn't want us to go.

After the airplane incident, the incitement to settle from the federal magistrate became insistent. I know my client didn't pay much at all. Have no idea how much the federal government paid to the plaintiffs to shut them up outside of the legal process. Back then? I'd guess a mil or maybe two was sufficient.

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WOW. Can't compete and I thought my career had some thrills. You WIN!! Do wish you'd write a novel(s)...I'd wait in line for a 1st edition copy.

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https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/10/senators-ig-fisa-abuse-report-misled-public-about-crossfire-hurricane/

Professor Cleveland is one of the few people who have read the entire Horowitz Report in detail. She writes again about the mysterious unredacted footnotes that are the subject of Grassley's letter. If you do read the article, it becomes very suspicious that Person 1 = Sergei Millian, someone who had 'sustained contact' with Papadopoulos (see pp 94-95 of Mueller's Report) & who would have been a prime candidate to have been placed under a counterintelligence investigation as Person 1 was.

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I've stumbled across something regarding the above post. The initial partially redacted footnote from Horowitz's Report that Professor Cleveland focuses upon is Footnote 302, which is below:



In the last sentence, the redacted name is Sergei Millian = Person 1 per Simpson. Bruce's Ohr's 302s have been published. Although parts are redacted, his 302 from 12/12/2016 contains the answer. See Page 7 of 34 below:

https://www.scribd.com/document/421243550/Bruce-Ohr-302-FBI-Interview

Find the paragraph beginning with the sentence: "Simpson still thinks Sergei Millian is a key figure connecting Trump to Russia." I've copied the entire page below; I don't know how to manipulate it into just showing the pertinent paragraphs.

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unrelated observation:

As a baseball fan, I'm astounded about how much more and faster info is coming out about the Astros cheating in 2017 than we've had about the Gov's spygate nonsense.

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Several Possibilities:

1. Trump was oblivious, and his advisors undermined him by allowing these goofballs to keep power (Trump is an idiot)
2. Trump knew, but was hemmed in by the threat of the Mueller Investigation (Trump leveraged in keeping goofballs around)
3. Trump knew, and kept these goofballs around to appear weak and provide comfort to the dems (Trump 56d underwater chess genius).


I really don't know which is right. Probably a mixture of all 3 on a case by case basis.

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Yes let's by all means not put someone who is adept at leaking confidential information to the press/enemies of the state in charge of the pentagon's budget/bank account.

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drcrinum said:

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https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/10/senators-ig-fisa-abuse-report-misled-public-about-crossfire-hurricane/

Professor Cleveland is one of the few people who have read the entire Horowitz Report in detail. She writes again about the mysterious unredacted footnotes that are the subject of Grassley's letter. If you do read the article, it becomes very suspicious that Person 1 = Sergei Millian, someone who had 'sustained contact' with Papadopoulos (see pp 94-95 of Mueller's Report) & who would have been a prime candidate to have been placed under a counterintelligence investigation as Person 1 was.

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I've stumbled across something regarding the above post. The initial partially redacted footnote from Horowitz's Report that Professor Cleveland focuses upon is Footnote 302, which is below:



In the last sentence, the redacted name is Sergei Millian = Person 1 per Simpson. Bruce's Ohr's 302s have been published. Although parts are redacted, his 302 from 12/12/2016 contains the answer. See Page 7 of 34 below:

https://www.scribd.com/document/421243550/Bruce-Ohr-302-FBI-Interview

Find the paragraph beginning with the sentence: "Simpson still thinks Sergei Millian is a key figure connecting Trump to Russia." I've copied the entire page below; I don't know how to manipulate it into just showing the pertinent paragraphs.

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When I read that memo, I see:

• may be involved
• Simpson's staff believes
• Simpson received a bizarre tip
• Simpson still thinks
• Simpson believes
• Millian may have overseen

The substantiation is strong!

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Yes let's by all means not put someone who is adept at leaking confidential information to the press/enemies of the state in charge of the pentagon's budget/bank account.

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Why not? Maybe then we might actually find out what the hell DOD's Office of Net Assessment really is and why they were paying millions to Stephan Halper.

Also, LOL at U of Dallas grad looking just like I would have imagined.

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The senior Defense Department position comes with a $176,900 salary.

McCusker graduated in 1989 from the University of Dallas and worked three years in the early 2000s as a professional staffer for the Senate Armed Services Committee, which would have considered her nomination.

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When I read that memo, I see:

• may be involved
• Simpson's staff believes
• Simpson received a bizarre tip
• Simpson still thinks
• Simpson believes
• Millian may have overseen

The substantiation is strong!

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Same here. Now if Simpson were an actual intelligence agent, I might understand some of the hedging.

But since he's not and he is a reporter with a political agenda, the hedging is his attempt to avoid a perjury charge. Why the FBI took him seriously is unfathomable.

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Several Possibilities:

1. Trump was oblivious, and his advisors undermined him by allowing these goofballs to keep power (Trump is an idiot)
2. Trump knew, but was hemmed in by the threat of the Mueller Investigation (Trump leveraged in keeping goofballs around)
3. Trump knew, and kept these goofballs around to appear weak and provide comfort to the dems (Trump 56d underwater chess genius).


I really don't know which is right. Probably a mixture of all 3 on a case by case basis.

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I'm going with #3, with a small dose of #2. Trump is not an idiot, no matter what Dems and Twitter thinks.

Oh, I've got a couple of ideas, and several of them have to do with Trump hatred, political zealotry, malpractice, or just good old fashion corruption.

I honestly can't imagine any decent SSA taking Simpson seriously unless they were getting 7 figures, or more.

House Republicans boycott intel hearing, accuse Schiff of ignoring FISA abuse

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Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee dramatically boycotted a public hearing Wednesday morning, after accusing Chairman Adam Schiff of ignoring Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuse following the release of a scathing Justice Department inspector general report which revealed significant misconduct.

The House Intelligence Subcommittee on Strategic Technologies and Advance Research (STAR) held a hearing on "Emerging Technologies and National Security" on Wednesday. Every GOP member skipped the forum, blasting it as a "publicity" event.

In a letter obtained by Fox News, Reps. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and Chris Stewart, R-Utah, the ranking members of the committee and subcommittee, respectively, joined GOP colleagues in blasting Schiff, D-Calif., for not holding hearings on FISA in the wake of the IG report.

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