Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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will25u said:


Going to impeach him for tweets and the discussion of firing people with conflicts of interest, but never actually doing it.
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Jeebus! Will this ever end?

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aggiehawg said:

Jeebus! Will this ever end?
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
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aggiehawg said:

Jeebus! Will this ever end?



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Throughout the two plus years of processing and production, more and more emails would appear in addition to the 55,000 pages Clinton turned over to the State Department in December 2014. The FBI uncovered 72,000 pages of documents Clinton attempted to delete or did not otherwise disclose.

Previously requested, the FBI was only able to recover or find approximately 5,000, including classified material, of the 33,000 government emails Clinton removed and tried to destroy. Earlier this year, Judicial Watch announced that it received 756 pages of emails that were among the materials Clinton tried to delete or destroy, several of which were classified and were transmitted over her unsecure, non-"state.gov" email system. Now again, it appears the FBI has uncovered more Clinton email documents.
Hey Nadler - This is what real obstruction looks like
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We know from James Comey that deleting tens of thousands of emails worth of subpoenaed evidence is extremely "careless"....
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MouthBQ98 said:

We know from James Comey that deleting tens of thousands of emails worth of subpoenaed evidence is extremely "careless"....

..........and no judge would allow it to be brought to court!
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fasthorse05 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

We know from James Comey that deleting tens of thousands of emails worth of subpoenaed evidence is extremely "careless"....

..........and no judge would allow it to be brought to court!
Actually, it was "no reasonable prosecutor" would pursue it.
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I don't think its an admission they know it will be bad. If they thought that, they would probably push to get him sentenced.

Its more likely an admission they know it will be relevant.
Sad commentary on our Justice Department. Perhaps it should be renamed Conviction Department.
It has been mis-named for a long time, given the malfeasance of the one-sided failure to ever punish official mis-conduct.
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hawg...

Wanted to ask you...what do you think compelled Comey to reopen the investigation right before the election...

He was obviously anti-Trump, so why don't Clinton in the 11th hour?
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FireAg said:

hawg...

Wanted to ask you...what do you think compelled Comey to reopen the investigation right before the election...

He was obviously anti-Trump, so why don't Clinton in the 11th hour?
Maybe wrong, but thought it was public exposure or revelation that the FBI had Weiner's laptop all along. Which led to Comey's absurd claim they'd reviewed all 33,000 (?) HRC emails on it in 3 or 4 days and found nothing incriminating.
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Didn't it have more to do with the FBI trying to control a story that the NYPD was in a position to break?
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titan said:


Didn't it have more to do with the FBI trying to control a story that the NYPD was in a position to break?
And allowing a candidate running for the presidency of the United States to continue to do so.
Can I go to sleep Looch?
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FireAg said:

hawg...

Wanted to ask you...what do you think compelled Comey to reopen the investigation right before the election...

He was obviously anti-Trump, so why don't Clinton in the 11th hour?
Simple. The FBI folks at SDNY were not going along with the cover story, nor were the NYPD who had the laptop. It was going to come out in the press. And before the election. He made the choice to "re-open" and then "close it" in record time.
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How many pages has it been since I called Comey a wanker?

Happy Thanksgiving to all, and talk to you manana, or the next day. We're all blessed in some form or fashion!
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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The inspector general will fault the F.B.I. for failing to tell the judges who approved the wiretap applications about potential problems with the dossier, the people familiar with the draft report said. F.B.I. agents have interviewed some of Mr. Steele's sources and found that their information differed somewhat from his dossier.
They are still able to fog a mirror? Trubnikov and Surkov? That they are still alive proves it was disinformation. Those are the only named sources from the Steele dossier in the public domain of which I am aware. Steele named them himself in his meeting with Kathleen Kravalec at State in early October 2016. Their names are in her hand written notes.
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This tells me that there could be a whole lot more agents with embarrassing texts. They had to throw Struck under the bus because they could not contain it in house.
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Talk about truth to power if true. Her motivation may have been revenge but without her actions he would have remained on the job of railroading the Russia narrative. It also caused enough of a concern to make people look further into the deep state. It's the smallest things that sometimes make a difference.
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"No reasonable prosecutor would indict..."

But it doesn't say why.

1. The implication is there's not enough evidence to do so.

2. But what if the reason the prosecutor won't indict is because he's scared for his life or has a political bias...

What a ****ty "objective" legal threshold to have...
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The FBI, DOJ, and CIA need to be deconstructed, rethought, and perhaps reconstituted in some form. Throw the IRS in there too.
Who is John Galt?

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
Not when I'm done with it.
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drcrinum said:




wonder who, leaked them to the press
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Whens lunch said:


Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
I bet you she knew what kind of man he is once she spent significant time with his family. It's been so long since I read the piece on the Strzok family, but I don't believe I'll ever forget thinking "so this is why Peter Strzok is the way he is".

Unless, of course, she's cut from the same mold. I wonder if Durham will/has talked to her?
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Good thread on Van Grack.



And Sidney Powell chimes in also.

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Oops. Wrong thread. But I'll leave it.

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https://amgreatness.com/2019/11/28/fbi-diagnosed-with-cia-disease/

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The Justice Department's inspector general this month reprimanded the FBI for the manner in which it recruits and supervises its "confidential human sources." To the layman, this seems about technicalities. In fact, it shows that one of the CIA's deadliest dysfunctions now infects the FBI as well.

This disease consists of choosing and rejecting sources for the purpose of indulging the agencies' and their leaders' private agendas rather than to further intelligence work on the public's behalf.

Necessarily, the language of the inspector general's November 19 report is vague: "Ineffective management and oversight of confidential sources." This means the FBI has failed to use "adequate controls" in its validation of human sources, which has resulted in "jeopardizing FBI operations, and placing FBI agents, sources, subjects of investigation, and the public in harm's way."

The inspector general's concern with the FBI's source management stems from the investigation into the FBI's involvement in the 2016 presidential campaign, including by taking seriously the infamous Steele dossier that it knew was a fabrication as well as, likely, some Russian communication intercepts that also should have been rejected on strictly professional grounds. In short, the FBI departed from its tradition of professionalism and honesty in pursuit of domestic political influence.

Choosing and recruiting sources, validating and managing them, is the very heart of intelligence. Doing it badly, taking sources that come easy -- especially dispensing with due skepticism about the ones that contribute to one's own agendas -- is professional corruption. But doing it right is hard. To the extent that intelligence agencies find it difficult to fulfill expectations, they are tempted to substitute such corruption for the competence they lack. The pursuit of agency interests or even personal agendas takes over....
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To be sure, the current inspector general's general reprimand of the FBI "ineffective management and oversight of confidential sources," for the lack of "adequate controls" in its validation of human sources," for "jeopardizing FBI operations, and placing FBI agents, sources, subjects of investigation, and the public in harm's way," refers primarily to the bureau's massive political malfeasance since 2016. But that malfeasance results from a disease that goes beyond politics, a disease that has sapped the moral and professional character of a class of people for at least a half-century.

This is a good read. It's the best interpretation of the recent IG report on the FBI & its confidential human sources that I have encountered. Written by a former staffer for the Senate Intelligence Committee.

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will25u said:

Good thread on Van Grack.



And Sidney Powell chimes in also.


Here's the threadreader on Techno_Fog's tweet thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1200584606803775493.html
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That massive conflict of interest, created by Van Grack (with an assist by the lawyers wanting to cover their asses) should have been presented to the court, by the prosecution.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1199417658766172161.html

Lokhova has figured out that Halper was a source for Steele's dossier. Halper was providing the same 'intel' to Steele as he was to Brennan, another example of 'circular verification', a technique used in crafting the FISA application for Carter Page. Great investigative read.
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Lokhova has figured out that Halper was a source for Steele's dossier. Halper was providing the same 'intel' to Steele as he was to Brennan, another example of 'circular verification', a technique used in crafting the FISA application for Carter Page. Great investigative read.
When did our spies become so inept? To be unable to verify and trace sourcing in assessing the value of intelligence information is just mind-boggling to me.
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It is funny that intellectually intelligent (or at least not dumb) people, such as Obama, Putin, Trump etc., rarely if ever email anything, but Hillary has literally tens of thousands of emails all over the place (and forwarded onward from her associates like Huma) she has to try to hide in a bathroom server/hit a half dozen phones with hammers etc. to try to destroy.

She really isn't very bright, as this, whitewater, travelgate, and even her disciplinary actions from clear back on the watergate committee stuff shows.

A lot of this stuff right now with IG etc. is just trying to document reasons/sources/mistakes/lies in the paperwork. The institutional hubris is tragic in it all.
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Hillary better become a candidate soon so that she can enjoy the protection of being a Trump opposition candidate.
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Additionally, she thought she would never lose.....so she could be a little "careless". Hell, even with all of this coming out she stands little chance of prosecution and the arrogant **** is considering another run. Smh.
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