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Old accusation from Yuriy Lutsenko before the Deep State got to him.

He said in a Bloomberg interview

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Biden did not violate any Ukrainian laws -- at least as of now

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To be hopeful, he says he has some documentation about the payments to Biden, if anyone can find those.

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I guess this was the one time he talked to Hunter about his business

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Different guy making this particular allegation. Read the article. Not saying it is bona fide true as translation is involved, so there's always a "lost in translation" aspect but this guy has documents. This being Ukraine where falsifying documents is practically a cottage industry, isn't helpful either.

OTOH, taking this report with a grain of salt may turn out to be unwise.

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Old accusation from Yuriy Lutsenko before the Deep State got to him.

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Different guy making this particular allegation. Read the article. Not saying it is bona fide true as translation is involved, so there's always a "lost in translation" aspect but this guy has documents. This being Ukraine where falsifying documents is practically a cottage industry, isn't helpful either.

OTOH, taking this report with a grain of salt may turn out to be unwise.

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But it's the same allegation, which again, gives some hope.

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In his conversation with Giuliani, Lutsenko says he thought Burisma paid as much as $100 million to its high-profile board members and associated companies for lobbying, of which Hunter Biden received "millions." According to the notes, Lutsenko said that Joe Biden received $900,000 in 2015, with the payment coming from Rosemont Seneca Partners, a company co-owned by Hunter Biden.

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Old accusation from Yuriy Lutsenko before the Deep State got to him.

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Different guy making this particular allegation. Read the article. Not saying it is bona fide true as translation is involved, so there's always a "lost in translation" aspect but this guy has documents. This being Ukraine where falsifying documents is practically a cottage industry, isn't helpful either.

OTOH, taking this report with a grain of salt may turn out to be unwise.

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But it's the same allegation, which again, gives some hope.

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In his conversation with Giuliani, Lutsenko says he thought Burisma paid as much as $100 million to its high-profile board members and associated companies for lobbying, of which Hunter Biden received "millions." According to the notes, Lutsenko said that Joe Biden received $900,000 in 2015, with the payment coming from Rosemont Seneca Partners, a company co-owned by Hunter Biden.

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Wouldn't this be fairly easy to check?

In 2015 Biden was still VP and his tax records should have been released. Surely someone would have noticed a payment of that size?

Those type of things don't go in your taxes.

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n 2015 Biden was still VP and his tax records should have been released. Surely someone would have noticed a payment of that size?

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Not to a bank in Cyprus.

Remember how Manafort got caught? The Cypriot bank gave him up as part of another criminal prosecution, not involving him directly. In 2014, the EDVa decided not to prosecute Manafort because they couldn't prove much without those foreign bank records.

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True. But in this case, it doesn't explain why creepy Joe would expose himself by running for office again. He would have been better off staying in the shadows. What a dumbass tempting Trump.

Two short videos with Nunes. Spying on journalists via requests from the State Department...rumors...related to the former Ukrainian ambassador...apparently aimed at John Solomon.

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They never thought she would lose.

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True. But in this case, it doesn't explain why creepy Joe would expose himself by running for office again. He would have been better off staying in the shadows. What a dumbass tempting Trump.

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Unless Biden feels protected as a POTUS candidate or the Democrats knew Trump was looking into Ukraine as the genesis of the Russia collusion story and by having Biden as a candidate they can claim Trump is using the government to attack a political opponent. The Democrats seem to have laid off Biden. Hmmmm...

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Two short videos with Nunes. Spying on journalists via requests from the State Department...rumors...related to the former Ukrainian ambassador...apparently aimed at John Solomon.

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What a den of snakes Trump was/is surrounded by.

I heard them talking about that. That is very disturbing but not sure I fully understand. Somebody on our side monitoring him?

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I heard them talking about that. That is very disturbing but not sure I fully understand. Somebody on our side monitoring him?

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All those unauthorized queries of the NSA database that continued even after Admiral Rogers & Judge Collyer blew the whistle. Some of the latter was likely being performed by the FBI in conjunction with Mueller's Investigation. Regarding Solomon, he's been a source of leaks regarding SpyGate for a long time, & he has also provided info on Ukraine. I think the good guys have been using Solomon as a conduit, whereas Mueller was likely after him regarding the leaks as well as the Clinton/Obama loyalists who continue to populate the State Department & of which some were involved in SpyGate.

Ok gotcha. Thanks

While I was driving home this evening, I was listening to Hannity on the radio. He had Giuliani on who was talking about Biden, Ukraine, China, evidence & $$$. Then Giuliani said watch out for Romania...it's next. I didn't think a whole lot about it, & then the above tweet shows up about Barr meeting with the AG of Romania. Hardly a coincidence, but I have no clue about what's up.

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While I was driving home this evening, I was listening to Hannity on the radio. He had Giuliani on who was talking about Biden, Ukraine, China, evidence & $$$. Then Giuliani said watch out for Romania...it's next. I didn't think a whole lot about it, & then the above tweet shows up about Barr meeting with the AG of Romania. Hardly a coincidence, but I have no clue about what's up.

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Head scratcher.

Did the US recruit cooperative foreign intel services to snoop on US political opponents? DOS?

Romania is know for hackers

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Romania is know for hackers

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And gymnasts.

Pretty rich coming from Hillary.

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Pretty rich coming from Hillary.

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They can never really articulate what they are though

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Pretty rich coming from Hillary.

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lol, talk about a complete lack of self-awareness.

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Pretty rich coming from Hillary.

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I'm sure it is hard for her keep track of her high crimes and misdemeanors, the list is so long.

Is she actually in the clear herself? She sure is doing a lot of talking and antagonizing lately.

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Is she actually in the clear herself? She sure is doing a lot of talking and antagonizing lately.

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If she runs for president then her crimes can't be investigated. That's the way it works.

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Is she actually in the clear herself? She sure is doing a lot of talking and antagonizing lately.

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She's feeling pretty cocky with her allies rolling out lie after lie after lie against the President.

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Cynical I know but timing wise I see this being dismissed out of hand by the Dems and media as fake news to distract from the arrest of Giuliani's clients today.

Trump's team needs to take the offensive aggressively at some point soon. They are in a den of vipers and need to start acting like a giant mongoose and biting off heads.