Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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I thought Durham already submitted his report and it's was in review to remove any classified material?
That's Horowitz' report.

Durham is a Fed Atty from Connecticut.

Things change quickly, and looks like it will change pace again...keep up, now...
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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aggiehawg said:

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The court ruling identifies tens of thousands of improper searches of raw intelligence databases by the bureau in 2017 and 2018 that it deemed improper in part because they involved data related to tens of thousands of emails or telephone numbersin one case, suggesting that the FBI was using the intelligence information to vet its personnel and cooperating sources. Federal law requires that the database only be searched by the FBI as part of seeking evidence of a crime or for foreign intelligence information.
2017 and 2018? Can you say Team Mueller?

What is wrong with these people?
Sundance has an initial post on this new court ruling. Worth a read:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/08/dni-declassifies-fisa-judge-james-boasberg-2018-ruling-fbi-conducted-tens-of-thousands-of-unauthorized-nsa-database-queries/#more-173168

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As with the 2017 Collyer report, it will take us some time to review the background material so that we can see behind the DNI redactions. However, at this point I see no reason to believe the Boasberg outline will be substantially different from the Collyer report; rather an initial review indicates the FBI bad actors just modified their approach, but kept doing political surveillance.

Unfortunately, what appears to be present within the Boasberg report, is that FBI personnel and 'contractors' were engaged in activity directly related to a continuation of efforts in 2017. This concern becomes more troublesome when you consider the Mueller operation that was happening at the same time.
REMINDER from the Mueller Report:


It was Mueller alright.
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https://therightscoop.com/white-house-sends-letter-to-pelosi-saying-it-wont-cooperate-with-unconstitutional-impeachment/

Letter from President's legal counsel to Pelosi & Schiff here:

https://www.scribd.com/document/429355567/WH-letter-announcing-noncompliance-with-impeachment-probe

Well worth a read. This is called a 'slap down'.




Short video on letter from President's legal counsel.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/whistleblower-had-professional-tie-to-2020-democratic-candidate

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Now, however, there is word of more evidence of possible bias on the whistleblower's part. Under questioning from Republicans during last Friday's impeachment inquiry interview with Atkinson, the inspector general revealed that the whistleblower's possible bias was not that he was simply a registered Democrat. It was that he had a significant tie to one of the Democratic presidential candidates currently vying to challenge President Trump in next year's election.

"The IG said [the whistleblower] worked or had some type of professional relationship with one of the Democratic candidates," said one person with knowledge of what was said.

"The IG said the whistleblower had a professional relationship with one of the 2020 candidates," said another person with knowledge of what was said.

"What [Atkinson] said was that the whistleblower self-disclosed that he was a registered Democrat and that he had a prior working relationship with a current 2020 Democratic presidential candidate," said a third person with knowledge of what was said.

All three sources said Atkinson did not identify the Democratic candidate with whom the whistleblower had a connection. It is unclear what the working or professional relationship between the two was......

So putting all we know together: 1) A CIA official who is a registered Democrat; 2) Had a working/professional relationship with a 2020 President candidate. Since the Hatch Act prohibits many forms of participating in political campaigns by employees of the Executive Department...which includes the CIA...then it's pretty obvious that the CIA whistleblower had to have been working under/for one of the 2020 Presidential candidates...can only be Joe Biden. CIA agents don't work for senators.
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Secolobo said:


Wow
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Now it's being reported on Fox News that an FBI agent that was looking at wiener's laptop said he doesn't know why comey said there were 33,000 missing emails. It was 340,000.

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Hell, they were in the last IG report.

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On October 27 at 5:20 a.m., McCabe emailed Comey stating that the Midyear team "has come across some additional actions they believe they need to take," and recommending that they meet that day to discuss the implications "if you have any space on your calendar." Comey stated that he did not know what this email was about when he received it and did not initially recall that he had been previously notified about the Weiner laptop.

We found that, by no later than September 29, FBI executives and the FBI Midyear team had learned virtually every fact that was cited by the FBI in late October as justification for obtaining the search warrant for the Weiner laptop, including that the laptop contained: Over 340,000 emails, some of which were from domains associated with Clinton, including state.gov, clintonfoundation.org, clintonemail.com, and hillaryclinton.com;

Numerous emails between Clinton and Abedin;
An unknown number of Blackberry communications on the laptop, including one or more messages between Clinton and Abedin, indicating the possibility that the laptop contained communications from the early months of Clinton's tenure; and
Emails dated beginning in 2007 and covering the entire period of Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State.

Can I go to sleep Looch?
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So putting all we know together: 1) A CIA official who is a registered Democrat; 2) Had a working/professional relationship with a 2020 President candidate. Since the Hatch Act prohibits many forms of participating in political campaigns by employees of the Executive Department...which includes the CIA...then it's pretty obvious that the CIA whistleblower had to have been working under/for one of the 2020 Presidential candidates...can only be Joe Biden. CIA agents don't work for senators.
Biden makes the most sense in that context. But consider who else has been on the House Intel committee, Joaquin Castro, Julian's campaign manager. But Heels up Harris is on the Senate Intel committee. No reason why the same people wouldn't know both of them within their work duties.
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will25u said:

drcrinum said:



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-investigation-trump-campaign-surveillance-expanded-scope

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.....Fox News previously reported that Durham would be reviewing the days leading up to the 2016 election and through the inauguration.

However, based on what he has been finding, Durham has expanded his investigation adding agents and resources, the senior administration officials said. The timeline has grown from the beginning of the probe through the election and now has included a post-election timeline through the spring of 2017, up to when Robert Mueller was named special counsel......



Gonna be waiting a while for Durham's report.
So when we were told that Durham was beginning an investigation, but don't worry this isn't going to drag out a long time because he's actually already been investigating for several months, that was BS?
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/john-solomon-says-new-hunter-biden-related-doc-shows-significant-shift-in-factual-timeline

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A newly unearthed document shows that Ukrainian officials had opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trump's phone call with that country's leader, Fox News contributor John Solomon reported late Tuesday.
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"The U.S. government had open-source intelligence and was aware as early as February of 2019 that the Ukrainian government was planning to reopen the Burisma investigation," he claimed. "This is long before the president ever imagined having a call with President Zelensky," he added, noting Petro Poroshenko was still Ukraine's president at that time.

Solomon said the information he obtained, including documents shown on "Hannity" Tuesday, was omitted from a U.S. intelligence community whistleblower's complaint lodged against Trump last month.

Solomon said that NABU -- an FBI-like anti-corruption agency in Ukraine -- requested the probe into Burisma and owner Mykola Zlochevsky be reopened earlier this year. The investigation then went forward, Solomon said. The new probe later resulted in a "Notice of Suspicion" being filed, alleging the existence of "illicit funds" running through the firm, Solomon also claimed......

Sounds like the whistleblower cherry picked the Ukrainian intel he listed in his complaint.
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Short video.
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TexAgs91 said:

will25u said:

drcrinum said:



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-investigation-trump-campaign-surveillance-expanded-scope

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.....Fox News previously reported that Durham would be reviewing the days leading up to the 2016 election and through the inauguration.

However, based on what he has been finding, Durham has expanded his investigation adding agents and resources, the senior administration officials said. The timeline has grown from the beginning of the probe through the election and now has included a post-election timeline through the spring of 2017, up to when Robert Mueller was named special counsel......



Gonna be waiting a while for Durham's report.
So when we were told that Durham was beginning an investigation, but don't worry this isn't going to drag out a long time because he's actually already been investigating for several months, that was BS?


Can't be sure. Investigations on specific individuals may have concluded, and ready to turn over to Barr for indictment prosecution process. Extension could be due to new leads on other individuals and, on those completed, Durham has enough to prosecute. And remaining open investigations may also add additional charges.

OR, all investions in parallel, and none are concluded.

More likely the first. We don't know.

But, you're right, it is a bit annoying to be led around by the nose, jerked here and there.
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My take is that there was a lot of stonewalling before the Mueller report dropped because too many people and foreign governments felt that Trump would be impeached and removed.

Then when the Mueller Report fizzled out those same people reassessed and started coming out of the woodwork with information for self-preservation.

My .02.
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SeMgCo87 said:

TexAgs91 said:

will25u said:

drcrinum said:



https://www.foxnews.com/politics/durham-investigation-trump-campaign-surveillance-expanded-scope

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.....Fox News previously reported that Durham would be reviewing the days leading up to the 2016 election and through the inauguration.

However, based on what he has been finding, Durham has expanded his investigation adding agents and resources, the senior administration officials said. The timeline has grown from the beginning of the probe through the election and now has included a post-election timeline through the spring of 2017, up to when Robert Mueller was named special counsel......



Gonna be waiting a while for Durham's report.
So when we were told that Durham was beginning an investigation, but don't worry this isn't going to drag out a long time because he's actually already been investigating for several months, that was BS?


Can't be sure. Investigations on specific individuals may have concluded, and ready to turn over to Barr for indictment prosecution process. Extension could be due to new leads on other individuals and, on those completed, Durham has enough to prosecute. And remaining open investigations may also add additional charges.

OR, all investions in parallel, and none are concluded.

More likely the first. We don't know.

But, you're right, it is a bit annoying to be led around by the nose, jerked here and there.


You would think they could start the process with the stuff they have to see if any new information is uncovered.


My prediction: If there are any indictments for politicians, those need to come out now (it will look terrible too close to an election). Now the deep state guys, you can indict those guys in waves leading up to the election. They aren't politicians, many (as libs like to point out) were registered "republicans". You hold on to those guys for an October Surprise.
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drcrinum said:



Short video.
Will believe it when I see it.

Whenever it comes out, the only result will be a ton of "declined to prosecute" and that's it.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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aggiehawg said:

My take is that there was a lot of stonewalling before the Mueller report dropped because too many people and foreign governments felt that Trump would be impeached and removed.

Then when the Mueller Report fizzled out those same people reassessed and started coming out of the woodwork with information for self-preservation.

My .02.


Good point on the stonewalling, but do you think they are holding back for FISA report from Horowitz?

I suspect that the FISA report will be split in half...one for public consumption, one with top clearance stuff. And, the holdup may be horse whipping Wray into submission. Probably like prying a 4 yr old's fingers from Tootsie-roll pop.
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Now the tweet.

Can I go to sleep Looch?
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There are still lots of Clinton/Obama people remaining in the State Department who are desirous of covering their butts.
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drcrinum said:



Short video.

What's a 'phone book'? ;-)
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Good point on the stonewalling, but do you think they are holding back for FISA report from Horowitz?

I suspect that the FISA report will be split in half...one for public consumption, one with top clearance stuff. And, the holdup may be horse whipping Wray into submission. Probably like prying a 4 yr old's fingers from Tootsie-roll pop.
The FISA stuff also involved foreign governments through the Five Eyes. To that extent, yes could be part of the delay because they assess it is to their advantage to cooperate with the Trump administration after the Mueller debacle.

But on our end the FISA abuse was limited to a dozen or so identifiable bad actors at the FBI, DOJ and State Department. Foreign countries likely incriminated several more people and the dominoes started to fall.
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drcrinum said:



Short video.

This is why dems want to impeach him. They are trying to cloudy the water.

Burn it all down and rebuild. The FBI/CIA/NSA have betrayed the trust of the people that they are supposed to be protecting. F them all.
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Judge orders the Justice Department to reveal Mueller grand jury material

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A federal judge ordered the Justice Department to reveal some details related to secret grand jury information from former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, as the House Judiciary Committee pursues evidence in its impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

The ruling by Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell followed hours of contentious courtroom battles on Tuesday between lawyers representing the Trump administration and attorneys advocating for the Democrats in Congress.
For weeks, Democrats have been fighting the Justice Department for access to redacted portions of the 448-page Mueller report, specifically seeking grand jury material that is typically kept secret.
Howell told the Justice Department to provide by Tuesday evening more clarity about the FBI interview records from Mueller's probe that it has already handed over to the House Judiciary Committee and to explain which witnesses it still plans to hand over records about to Congress.

The Justice Department quickly responded on Tuesday by revealing that, of the 33 individuals that the Democrats had requested FBI interview notes about, the Justice Department had already provided access to the notes for 17 of them.
A lot more to digest at the link.
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will25u said:

Judge orders the Justice Department to reveal Mueller grand jury material

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A federal judge ordered the Justice Department to reveal some details related to secret grand jury information from former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, as the House Judiciary Committee pursues evidence in its impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

The ruling by Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell followed hours of contentious courtroom battles on Tuesday between lawyers representing the Trump administration and attorneys advocating for the Democrats in Congress.
For weeks, Democrats have been fighting the Justice Department for access to redacted portions of the 448-page Mueller report, specifically seeking grand jury material that is typically kept secret.
Howell told the Justice Department to provide by Tuesday evening more clarity about the FBI interview records from Mueller's probe that it has already handed over to the House Judiciary Committee and to explain which witnesses it still plans to hand over records about to Congress.

The Justice Department quickly responded on Tuesday by revealing that, of the 33 individuals that the Democrats had requested FBI interview notes about, the Justice Department had already provided access to the notes for 17 of them.
A lot more to digest at the link.
No surprise from another Obama judge. Off to the appeals court.
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So Haspel is in Rome today. It's not reported in the article linked in the tweet, so this is a fact known to Occhionero & his attorneys. Occhionero has been playing a prominent role in calling attention to the SpyGate scheming in Italy as he was victimized by it.
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Rapier108 said:

will25u said:

Judge orders the Justice Department to reveal Mueller grand jury material

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A federal judge ordered the Justice Department to reveal some details related to secret grand jury information from former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, as the House Judiciary Committee pursues evidence in its impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

The ruling by Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell followed hours of contentious courtroom battles on Tuesday between lawyers representing the Trump administration and attorneys advocating for the Democrats in Congress.
For weeks, Democrats have been fighting the Justice Department for access to redacted portions of the 448-page Mueller report, specifically seeking grand jury material that is typically kept secret.
Howell told the Justice Department to provide by Tuesday evening more clarity about the FBI interview records from Mueller's probe that it has already handed over to the House Judiciary Committee and to explain which witnesses it still plans to hand over records about to Congress.
A lot more to digest at the link.
No surprise from another Obama judge. Off to the appeals court.
Beryl Howell needs to be removed from the bench. She is unfit to serve.
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Off to the appeals court.
First big test under McKeever. If the DC Circuit Court of Appeals follow their own precedent, Judge Howell gets overturned in a harshly worded opinion along the lines of, "when we said you lack inherent power to reveal grand jury material, we meant it."
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Rapier108 said:

will25u said:

Judge orders the Justice Department to reveal Mueller grand jury material

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A federal judge ordered the Justice Department to reveal some details related to secret grand jury information from former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation, as the House Judiciary Committee pursues evidence in its impeachment inquiry into President Trump.

The ruling by Chief Judge Beryl A. Howell followed hours of contentious courtroom battles on Tuesday between lawyers representing the Trump administration and attorneys advocating for the Democrats in Congress.
For weeks, Democrats have been fighting the Justice Department for access to redacted portions of the 448-page Mueller report, specifically seeking grand jury material that is typically kept secret.
Howell told the Justice Department to provide by Tuesday evening more clarity about the FBI interview records from Mueller's probe that it has already handed over to the House Judiciary Committee and to explain which witnesses it still plans to hand over records about to Congress.
A lot more to digest at the link.
No surprise from another Obama judge. Off to the appeals court.
Beryl Howell needs to be removed from the bench. She is unfit to serve.
Every once in awhile she gets one correct on the law but she punted on the law that is binding on her in the DC Circuit on this one, IMO.
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The very first thing I thought of was impeachment of Ms. Howell, since her decision is fairly shocking!

I'm pretty sure I'm out of line, but it felt good writing the sentence.
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So Haspel is in Rome today. It's not reported in the article linked in the tweet, so this is a fact known to Occhionero & his attorneys. Occhionero has been playing a prominent role in calling attention to the SpyGate scheming in Italy as he was victimized by it.
Haven't been able to get a read on Haspel. She was at Ground Zero as Station Chief in London when all of the Steele Dossier crap went down.

As long as it was Horowitz conducting a review, he couldn't reach her. And the IC IG, Atkinson was up to his eyeballs in the shenanigans as DOJ Nat Sec at the time, so he wasn't going to give Haspel any trouble.

But Barr and Durham have the power to reach out and touch her...and not necessarily in the friendliest way if she fails to cooperate. I do trust Barr and Durham to get an accurate read on her, though and await their assessment. Her being in Rome is a positive sign to me that the light at the end of the tunnel is not an oncoming train for the good guys.
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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That's as it should be.
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I agree, I just wanted the board to know.
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