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That was a really convoluted opinion. Torturous read, actually. Even my eyes crossed at parts.

Basically what I think happened is that the judge upheld the count about lying to a federal agency under a separate statute but found that certain communications that were voluntary could not be sustained under the FARA statute itself because that provision of the FARA statute is ambiguous, under statutory construction case law principles.

Ooof! I need a martini.

Interview with Tony Shaffer. Interesting. 2 short videos.

Interesting coincidence.

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Interesting coincidence.

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Reading his Twitter, Monsieur America seems to be wound a little too tight.

Strzok just wants to be able to deflect his impending arrest.

pagerman @ work said:

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Reading his Twitter, Monsieur America seems to be wound a little too tight.

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She's currently upset that it seems all the Deep State criminals seem to be getting away without being punished.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/sean-hannity-my-sources-are-telling-me-the-doj-investigation-of-spygate-will-shock-the-conscience-of-a-nation-video/

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...(Hannity) I have my sources confirming to me tonight at very high levels. And by the way, it's not Trump. I have high level sources telling me tonight, that by the time that Attorney Durham is done with his job, and the Attorney General is done with his job, and the investigation is complete adding into it Inspector General Horowitz, it will shock the conscience of a nation. That is a quote....

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Watch video above beginning at 4:50. Sara then confirms it from her sources.
We can hope.

Sounds like a cop out to me. "This stuff is so damaging to the nation we don't want to follow through. Best we keep it Top Secret. "

Hope I'm wrong

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Sounds like a cop out to me. "This stuff is so damaging to the nation we don't want to follow through. Best we keep it Top Secret. "

Hope I'm wrong

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I hope you are as well. If this is allowed to be swept under the rug we have basically become a Socialist State and may as well elect Socialists going forward.

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Reading his Twitter, Monsieur America seems to be wound a little too tight.

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She's currently upset that it seems all the Deep State criminals seem to be getting away without being punished.

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As are we all.

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Sounds like a cop out to me. "This stuff is so damaging to the nation we don't want to follow through. Best we keep it Top Secret. "

Hope I'm wrong

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Even if it's Top Secret, people will lose jobs and go to prison. We may not see the perp walks on TV but they'll happen.

IF what Hannity says is true, that is.

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and this is why I don't watch Hannity anymore. Tired of hearing this over and over. Swamp too deep.

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It ain't over 'til it's over.

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and this is why I don't watch Hannity anymore. Tired of hearing this over and over. Swamp too deep.

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It ain't over 'til it's over.

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he's got a point about hannity. every night is like sweeps week with "bombshell news", "information that will rock the nation to it's core", etc. but nothing ever really happens.

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Rockdoc said:
and this is why I don't watch Hannity anymore. Tired of hearing this over and over. Swamp too deep.

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MooreTrucker said:
It ain't over 'til it's over.

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he's got a point about hannity. every night is like sweeps week with "bombshell news", "information that will rock the nation to it's core", etc. but nothing ever really happens.

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Hannity is the worst when it comes to this. Endless, nightly "bombshells" with guests and "sources" predicting indictments for deep staters. It's unwatchable.

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Strzok just wants to be able to deflect his impending arrest.

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You'd have to explain to me slowly why Strzok has been back in the FBI building repeatedly, prior to filing his suit for reinstatement, if you want me to believe he is facing arrest shortly.

I remain convinced the FBI is a corrupt organization and should be abolished entirely. It's simply not respectable, period.

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Almost one year after he was fired from his top post at FBI, Peter Strzok is back in the building and the FBI's good graces.

"Strzok is in the (HQ) building all the time," one FBI insider revealed. "He is taking meetings or part of meetings."

What?

FBI sources confirm Strzok has been granted access to FBI facilities in Washington, D.C. and its headquarters building on numerous occasions since he was sacked in August 2018.
Strzok has also not been stripped of his security clearances, an FBI insider said.

"He (Strzok) is getting in with a visitor's badge and is involved in meetings," one FBI insider said. "Maybe they are all trying to get their story straight before things go public."
Such "things" include declassification of the FISA warrant the FBI used to spy on the campaign of Donald Trump. One of the warrants is scheduled to be declassified and released this summer, however FBI Director Christopher Wray is trying to delay its release, sources said.

At all costs.

While Americans were under the impression that Strzok was a disavowed FBI insider, that is not the case. Even top FBI officials are wondering how and why Strzok has been allowed to come back into FBI headquarters.

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When Strzok was testifying before Congress, he stated his security clearance had been temporarily been restored in order for him to prepare his testimony.

I would take true pundit with a grain of salt until it is being reported elsewhere. If Strzok was in and out of the FBI, someone else would have seen him and said so.

My method of reading this thread is reading all the posts (had 14 this morning), then follow up with whatever articles are included.

In this case, I was doing great until I got to your post,, because I hadn't read that article yet. I seriously went red face over the Strzok information. I don't mind disliking one guy, and I can't stand Strzok, but his whole family is corrupt from start to finish. His dad did dirty work for Obama, got caught, then pardoned.

I've given Wray LOTS of rope, as I always do, but damn, he's got to go. Stzok is a frickin' cancer to ANY organization. He could ONLY work in government, because the private sector would fry his ass quickly.

I admire your optimism, I just think it's interesting to say the least, and have utterly no confidence in the organization. Also, there's probably a reason he didn't sue Mueller, regarding his "wrongful termination."

Wray actually approved the termination, and I have to believe they are planning how to come up after the IG reports and develop a cohesive media strategy.

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/sean-hannity-my-sources-are-telling-me-the-doj-investigation-of-spygate-will-shock-the-conscience-of-a-nation-video/

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...(Hannity) I have my sources confirming to me tonight at very high levels. And by the way, it's not Trump. I have high level sources telling me tonight, that by the time that Attorney Durham is done with his job, and the Attorney General is done with his job, and the investigation is complete adding into it Inspector General Horowitz, it will shock the conscience of a nation. That is a quote....

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Watch video above beginning at 4:50. Sara then confirms it from her sources.
We can hope.

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I'm betting it will "shock the conscience" of about 50-60% of the nation. The rest will not believe it regardless of what it says.

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Reading his Twitter, Monsieur America seems to be wound a little too tight.

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She's currently upset that it seems all the Deep State criminals seem to be getting away without being punished.

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She's also upset about the "truth" not getting out about 9/11 and the Kennedy assassination.

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Rockdoc said:
and this is why I don't watch Hannity anymore. Tired of hearing this over and over. Swamp too deep.

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MooreTrucker said:
It ain't over 'til it's over.

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he's got a point about hannity. every night is like sweeps week with "bombshell news", "information that will rock the nation to it's core", etc. but nothing ever really happens.

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Hannity is the worst when it comes to this. Endless, nightly "bombshells" with guests and "sources" predicting indictments for deep staters. It's unwatchable.

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His radio show is no better, and he will say "acid wash" and "bleach bit" at least 5 times.

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and this is why I don't watch Hannity anymore. Tired of hearing this over and over. Swamp too deep.

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He's a broken clock. I'm waiting for those two times a day when he will be right.

And waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting

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I admire your optimism, I just think it's interesting to say the least, and have utterly no confidence in the organization. Also, there's probably a reason he didn't sue Mueller, regarding his "wrongful termination."

Wray actually approved the termination, and I have to believe they are planning how to come up after the IG reports and develop a cohesive media strategy.

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Mueller didn't fire Strzok, he just removed him from his investigation. Nothing actionable there. Gowdy is wrong on that, although he makes a great rhetorical flourish by saying it.

And I'm not really as optimistic as I am pragmatic. Strzok is a little fish. He's not worth it to risk giving the FBI another black eye. That's why I'm skeptical he's back in anyone's good graces.

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Strzok just wants to be able to deflect his impending arrest.

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You'd have to explain to me slowly why Strzok has been back in the FBI building repeatedly, prior to filing his suit for reinstatement, if you want me to believe he is facing arrest shortly.

I remain convinced the FBI is a corrupt organization and should be abolished entirely. It's simply not respectable, period.

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Almost one year after he was fired from his top post at FBI, Peter Strzok is back in the building and the FBI's good graces.

"Strzok is in the (HQ) building all the time," one FBI insider revealed. "He is taking meetings or part of meetings."

What?

FBI sources confirm Strzok has been granted access to FBI facilities in Washington, D.C. and its headquarters building on numerous occasions since he was sacked in August 2018.
Strzok has also not been stripped of his security clearances, an FBI insider said.

"He (Strzok) is getting in with a visitor's badge and is involved in meetings," one FBI insider said. "Maybe they are all trying to get their story straight before things go public."
Such "things" include declassification of the FISA warrant the FBI used to spy on the campaign of Donald Trump. One of the warrants is scheduled to be declassified and released this summer, however FBI Director Christopher Wray is trying to delay its release, sources said.

At all costs.

While Americans were under the impression that Strzok was a disavowed FBI insider, that is not the case. Even top FBI officials are wondering how and why Strzok has been allowed to come back into FBI headquarters.

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Thats a trash source. I saw the article and could not confirm it anywhere else. They also put out an article that said FBI agents were caught sleeping with CNN anchors. Its a dubious source at best

https://truepundit.com/sex-scandal-rocks-fbi-top-agents-under-fire-for-reported-sexual-affairs-with-cnn-reporters/

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He's a broken clock. I'm waiting for those two times a day when he will be right.

And waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting

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I can't watch or listen to him anymore either. His heart is in the right place and he has put his reputation on all this stuff, but he's difficult to listen to. I usually only tune in when something drops.

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I admire your optimism, I just think it's interesting to say the least, and have utterly no confidence in the organization. Also, there's probably a reason he didn't sue Mueller, regarding his "wrongful termination."

Wray actually approved the termination, and I have to believe they are planning how to come up after the IG reports and develop a cohesive media strategy.

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For purposes of this post, I'm assuming Durham/Horowitz are bringing the wood this fall/winter. First of all, that means someone, somewhere will need to impanel a grand jury, but secondly, how many current empolyees of the FBI/State/, etc., will be indicted? I'm ask because most of the heirarchy at the FBI is gone, in some form or fashion. There are still plenty of crooks and sabotuers in State, DOD, DOJ, and the FBI, who still draw paychecks from you and me. That means they either weren't caught, or were suspected, but never disciplined or fired.

To me, and going off my premise, all of the guys were after will get indicted. However, if Durham does a really good job,and people talk, then there will be a slew of "underlings" we've never heard of, who will be laying down dinero for legal services.

There are a couple of anchors there I'd jump in the sack with and never ask their names, or who they work for!

My guy is still defending the FBI even aver the Mueller testimony. He's "sick" that this is all "political". I'd imagine that Wray feels the same way. He just wants it to go away and isn't interested in bringing justice. Protecting the FBI is more important. It's going to take Barr and Durham prying it out of the FBI because the top brass has locked arms in defiance IMO.

My money is on Blitzer.

I think that's one of the biggest dangers about entrenched bureaucrats. It becomes more important to protect the agency than doing the right thing. The ironic thing is that by "protecting" the agency, they're actually destroying it.

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...(Hannity) I have my sources confirming to me tonight at very high levels. And by the way, it's not Trump. I have high level sources telling me tonight, that by the time that Attorney Durham is done with his job, and the Attorney General is done with his job, and the investigation is complete adding into it Inspector General Horowitz, it will shock the conscience of a nation. That is a quote....

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Watch video above beginning at 4:50. Sara then confirms it from her sources.
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I'm betting it will "shock the conscience" of about 50-60% of the nation. The rest will not believe it regardless of what it says.

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Most of that 40-50% will never even get the full story to believe or not, thanks to the corrupt MSM and/or willful ignorance.

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...(Hannity) I have my sources confirming to me tonight at very high levels. And by the way, it's not Trump. I have high level sources telling me tonight, that by the time that Attorney Durham is done with his job, and the Attorney General is done with his job, and the investigation is complete adding into it Inspector General Horowitz, it will shock the conscience of a nation. That is a quote....

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Watch video above beginning at 4:50. Sara then confirms it from her sources.
We can hope.

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I'm betting it will "shock the conscience" of about 50-60% of the nation. The rest will not believe it regardless of what it says.

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Most of that 40-50% will never even get the full story to believe or not, thanks to the corrupt MSM and/or willful ignorance.

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honestly...sometimes it feels like none of us will or that what will eventually come out is going to be a lot less damaging or "shocking" than led to believe.