Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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"Witch photo of Hildabeast edited out for ease of viewing"

.....which is a lot of covering BTW.
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Damn we finally switch pages where I don't have to see that anymore and you bring it back. That's just BS.
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blessed said:

Judge Napolitano on fox and friends said Whitaker is not legally qualified to be Acting AG. True? If so, how done and why not more uproar from Dems.


Saw somewhere that he can serve like 200 days as an acting AG. I just dont know how he can hop RR or Francisco...
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backintexas2013 said:

Damn we finally switch pages where I don't have to see that anymore and you bring it back. That's just BS.
I apologize!!

"Witch photo of Hildabeast edited out for ease of viewing"
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Thank. You saved us all.
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Maybe because the potus gets to choose, or has some authority to do so, even for his interim AG?
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Judge N laid out the three criteria and explained why Whitacer did not meet any of them.
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blessed said:

Judge N laid out the three criteria and explained why Whitacer did not meet any of them.
Which were....?
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According to Napolitano, Whitacer is not qualified because of laws written by Congress in wake of the Watergate scandal. His explanation is there are three ways to become Acting AG:
1. If they were deputy AG and president signs EO to make them Acting AG or
2. If they are already at the DOJ in a job that both required and received Senate confirmation or
3. If Senate is in recess, they can be a recess appointment.

Napolitano says none of the three apply. So what is the President's attorney's legal justification?
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It's not illegal if the President does it.
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blessed said:

According to Napolitano, Whitaker is not qualified because of laws written by Congress in wake of the Watergate scandal. His explanation is there are three ways to become Acting AG:
1. If they were deputy AG and president signs EO to make them Acting AG or
2. If they are already at the DOJ in a job that both required and received Senate confirmation or
3. If Senate is in recess, they can be a recess appointment.

Napolitano says none of the three apply. So what is the President's attorney's legal justification?
His justification is Napolitano is a pundit and Trump is the POTUS. He's done it, if they have a legal challenge bring it on. By the time they get around to it, he'll have appointed his permanent AG and had him confirmed.

The left is worried if they go into recess, he'll make him a recess appointment, they are plotting to try and get a weak kneed GOP member for pro-forma sessions thru the holidays. Schumer may not find a player to do it over the holidays. Summer break or August recess is one thing, but over the Holidays? Good Luck, and then there's the adjournment Dec 14th until the first workday in Jan.

Clinton made 139 recess appointments, 95 to full-time positions. Bush made 171 recess appointments, of which 99 were to full-time positions. Obama had made 132 recess appointments, all to full-time positions. Trump has made Zero.
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blessed said:

According to Napolitano, Whitacer is not qualified because of laws written by Congress in wake of the Watergate scandal. His explanation is there are three ways to become Acting AG:
1. If they were deputy AG and president signs EO to make them Acting AG or
2. If they are already at the DOJ in a job that both required and received Senate confirmation or
3. If Senate is in recess, they can be a recess appointment.

Napolitano says none of the three apply. So what is the President's attorney's legal justification?
https://www.gsa.gov/governmentwide-initiatives/presidential-transition/legislative-overview/the-federal-vacancies-reform-act-of-1998

I don't believe that is what the law says, but I am no expertise in reading legal mumbo-jumbo. Read for yourself:

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The Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998,
SEC. 151. FEDERAL VACANCIES AND APPOINTMENTS.
(a) SHORT TITLE.-This section may be cited as the "Federal Vacancies Reform Act of 1998".
(b) IN GENERAL.-Chapter 33 of title 5, United States Code, is amended by striking sections 3345 through 3349 and inserting the following:
"3345. Acting officer
"(a) If an officer of an Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the General Accounting Office) whose appointment to office is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the office-
"(1) the first assistant to the office of such officer shall perform the functions and duties of the office temporarily in an acting capacity subject to the time limitations of section 3346;
"(2) notwithstanding paragraph (1), the President (and only the President) may direct a person who serves in an office for which appointment is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity subject to the time limitations of section 3346; or
"(3) notwithstanding paragraph (1), the President (and only the President) may direct an officer or employee of such Executive agency to perform the functions and duties of the vacant office temporarily in an acting capacity, subject to the time limitations of section 3346, if
"(A) during the 365-day period preceding the date of death, resignation, or beginning of inability to serve of the applicable officer, the officer or employee served in a position in such agency for not less than 90 days; and
"(B) the rate of pay for the position described under subparagraph (A) is equal to or greater than the minimum rate of pay payable for a position at GS-15 of the General Schedule.
"(b)(1) Notwithstanding subsection (a)(1), a person may not serve as an acting officer for an office under this section, if
"(A) during the 365-day period preceding the date of the death, resignation, or beginning of inability to serve, such person
"(i) did not serve in the position of first assistant to the office of such officer; or
"(ii) served in the position of first assistant to the office of such officer for less than 90 days; and
"(B) the President submits a nomination of such person to the Senate for appointment to such office.
"(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to any person if

"(A) such person is serving as the first assistant to the office of an officer described under subsection (a);
"(B) the office of such first assistant is an office for which appointment is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate; and
"(C) the Senate has approved the appointment of such person to such office.
"(c)(1) Notwithstanding subsection (a)(1), the President (and only the President) may direct an officer who is nominated by the President for reappointment for an additional term to the same office in an Executive department without a break in service, to continue to serve in that office subject to the time limitations in section 3346, until such time as the Senate has acted to confirm or reject the nomination, notwithstanding adjournment sine die.
"(2) For purposes of this section and sections 3346, 3347, 3348, 3349, 3349a, and 3349d, the expiration of a term of office is an inability to perform the functions and duties of such office.
"3346. Time limitation
"(a) Except in the case of a vacancy caused by sickness, the person serving as an acting officer as described under section 3345 may serve in the office

"(1) for no longer than 210 days beginning on the date the vacancy occurs; or
"(2) subject to subsection (b), once a first or second nomination for the office is submitted to the Senate, from the date of such nomination for the period that the nomination is pending in the Senate.
"(b) (1) If the first nomination for the office is rejected by the Senate, withdrawn, or returned to the President by the Senate, the person may continue to serve as the acting officer for no more than 210 days after the date of such rejection, withdrawal, or return.
"(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (1), if a second nomination for the office is submitted to the Senate after the rejection, withdrawal, or return of the first nomination, the person serving as the acting officer may continue to serve
"(A) until the second nomination is confirmed; or
"(B) for no more than 210 days after the second nomination is rejected, withdrawn, or returned.
"(c) If a vacancy occurs during an adjournment of the Congress sine die, the 210day period under subsection (a) shall begin on the date that the Senate first reconvenes.
" 3347 Exclusivity
"(a) Sections 3345 and 3346 are the exclusive means for temporarily authorizing an acting official to perform the functions and duties of any office of an Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the General Accounting Office,) for which appointment is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, unless
"(1) a statutory provision expressly

"(A) authorizes the President, a court, or the head of an Executive department to designate an officer or employee to perform the functions and duties of a specified office temporarily in an acting capacity; or
"(B) designates an officer or employee to perform the functions and duties of a specified office temporarily in an acting capacity; or "(2) the President makes an appointment to fill a vacancy in such office during the recess of the Senate pursuant to clause 3 of section 2 of article II of the United States Constitution.
"(b) Any statutory provision providing general authority to the head of an Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the General Accounting Office) to delegate duties statutorily vested in that agency head to, or to reassign duties among, officers or employees of such Executive agency, is not a statutory provision to which subsection (a)(2) applies.
"3348. Vacant office
"(a) In this section-
"(1) the term 'action' includes any agency action as defined under section 551(13); and
"(2) the term 'function or duty' means any function or duty of the applicable office that
"(A) (i) is established by statute; and
"(ii) is required by statute to be performed by the applicable officer (and only that officer); or

"(B)(i)(I) is established by regulation; and
"(II) is required by such regulation to be performed by the applicable officer (and only that officer); or
"(ii) includes a function or duty to which clause (i) (I) and (II) applies, and the applicable regulation is in effect at any time during the 180-day period preceding the date on which the vacancy occurs.
"(b) Unless an officer or employee is performing the functions and duties in accordance with sections 3345, 3346, and 3347, if an officer of an Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the General Accounting Office) whose appointment to office is required to be made by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, dies, resigns, or is otherwise unable to perform the functions and duties of the Office-

"(1) the, office shall remain vacant; and
"(2) in the case of an office other than the office of the head of an Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the General Accounting Office), only the head of such Executive agency may perform any function or duty of such office.
"(c) If the last day of any 210-day period under section 3346 is a day on which the Senate is not in session, the second day the Senate is next in session and receiving nominations shall be deemed to be the last day of such period.
"(d) (1) An action taken by any person who is not acting under section 3345, 3346, or 3347, or as provided by subsection (b), in the performance of any function or duty of a vacant office to which this section and sections 3346, 3347, 3349, 3349a, 3349b, and 3349c apply shall have no force or effect.
"(2) An action that has no force or effect under paragraph (1) may not be ratified.
"(e) This section shall not apply to-
"(1) the General Counsel of the National Labor Relations Board;
"(2) the General Counsel of the Federal Labor Relations Authority;
"(3) any Inspector General appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate;
"(4) any Chief Financial Officer appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate; or
"(5) an office of an Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the General Accounting office) if a statutory provision expressly prohibits the head of the Executive agency from performing the functions and duties of such office.
"3349. Reporting of vacancies
"(a) The head of each Executive agency (including the Executive Office of the President, and other than the General Accounting office) shall submit to the Comptroller General of the United States and to each House of Congress
"(1) notification of a vacancy in an office to which this section and sections 3345, 3346, 3347, 3348, 3349a, 3349b, 3349c, and 3349d apply and the date such vacancy occurred immediately upon the occurrence of the vacancy;
"(2) the name of any person serving in an acting capacity and the date such service began immediately upon the designation,
"(3) the name of any person nominated to the Senate to fill the vacancy and the date such nomination is submitted immediately upon the submission of the nomination; and
"(4)" the date of a rejection, withdrawal, or return of any nomination immediately upon such rejection, withdrawal, or return.
"(b) If the Comptroller General of the United States makes a determination that an officer is serving longer than the 210-day period including the applicable exceptions to such period under section 3346 or section 3349a, the Comptroller General shall report such determination immediately to
"(1) the Committee on Governmental Affairs of the Senate;
"(2) the Committee on Government Reform and Oversight of the House of Representatives;
"(3) the Committees on Appropriations of the Senate and House of Representatives;
"(4) the appropriate committees of jurisdiction of the Senate and House of Representatives;
"(5) the President; and
"(6) the Office of Personnel Management.
"3349a. Presidential inaugural transitions
"(a) In this section, the term 'transitional inauguration day' means the date on which any person swears or affirms the oath of office as President, if such person is not the President on the date preceding the date of swearing or affirming such oath of office.
"(b) With respect to any vacancy that exists during the 60-day period beginning on a transitional inauguration day, the 210-day period under section 3346 or 3348 shall be deemed to begin on the later of the date occurring
"(1) 90 days after such transitional inauguration day; or
"(2) 90 days after the date on which the vacancy occurs.
"3349b. Holdover provisions
"Sections 3345 through 3349a shall not be construed to affect any statute that authorizes a person to continue to serve in any office
"(1) after the expiration of the term for which such person is appointed; and
"(2) until a successor is appointed or a specified period of time has expired.

"3349c. Exclusion of certain officers

"Sections 3345 through 3349b shall not apply to-
"(1) any member who is appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate to any board, commission, or similar entity that
"(A) is composed of multiple members; and
"(B) governs an independent establishment or Government corporation;
"(2) any commissioner of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission;
"(3) any member of the Surface Transportation Board; or
"(4) any judge appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to a court constituted under article I of the United States Constitution.
"3349d. Notification of intent to nominate during certain recesses or adjournments
"(a) The submission to the Senate, during a recess or adjournment of the Senate in excess of 15 days, of a written notification by the President of the President's intention to submit a nomination after the recess or adjournment shall be considered a nomination for purposes of sections 3345 through 3349c if such notification contains the name of the proposed nominee and the office for which the person is nominated.
"(b) If the President does not submit a nomination of the person named under subsection (a) within 2 days after the end of such recess or adjournment, effective after such second day the notification considered a nomination under subsection (a) shall be treated as a withdrawn nomination for purposes of sections 3345 through 3349c.
(c) TECHNICAL AND CONFORMING AMENDMENT
(1) TABLE OF SECTIONS.-The table of sections for chapter 33 of title 5, United States Code, is amended by striking the matter relating to subchapter III and inserting the following:
"SUBCHAPTER III-DETAILS, VACANCIES, AND
APPOINTMENTS
"3341. Details; within Executive or military departments.
"[3342. Repealed.]
"3343. Details; to international organization.
"3344. Details; administrative law judges.
"3345. Acting officer.
"3346. Time limitation.
"3347. Exclusivity."3348. Vacant office.
"3349. Reporting of vacancies.
"3349a. Presidential inaugural transitions.
"3349b. Holdover provisions relating to certain independent establishments.
"3349c. Exclusion of certain officers.
"3349d. Notification of intent to nominate during certain recesses or adjournments.
(2) SUBCHAPTER HEADING.-The subchapter heading for subchapter III of chapter 33 of title 5, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:
"SUBCHAPTER III-DETAILS, VACANCIES, AND APPOINTMENTS".
(d) EFFECTIVE DATE AND APPLICATION
(1) EFFECTIVE DATE.-Subject to paragraph (2), this section and the amendments made by this section shall take effect 30 days after the date of enactment of this section.
(2) APPLICATION.
(A) IN GENERAL.-This section shall apply to any office that becomes vacant after the effective date of this section.
(B) IMMEDIATE APPLICATION OF TIME LIMITATION. Notwithstanding subparagraph (A), for any office vacant on the effective date of this section, the time limitations under section 3346 of title 5, United States Code (as amended by this section) shall apply to such office. Such time limitations shall apply as though such office first became vacant on the effective date of this section.
(C) CERTAIN NOMINATIONS.-If the President submits to the Senate the nomination of any person after the effective date of this section for an office for which such person had been nominated before such date, the next nomination of such person after such date shall be considered a first nomination of such person to that office for purposes of sections 3345 through 3349 and section 3349d of title 5, United States Code (as amended by this section).




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Andrew McCarthy says Whitaker is legal:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/matthew-whittaker-jeff-sessions-replacement-excellent-choice/

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...Matthew Whitaker joined the Trump Justice Department as Sessions's chief of staff in October 2017. The date is relevant. The president has named him as acting attorney general under the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (the relevant provisions are codified at Sections 3345 and 3346 of Title 5, U.S. Code). There has been some commentary suggesting that because Whitaker was in a job (chief of staff) that did not require Senate confirmation, he could not become the "acting officer" in a position (AG) that calls for Senate confirmation. Not so. The Vacancies Act enables the president to name an acting officer, who may serve as such for 210 days, as long as the person named has been working at the agency or department for at least 90 days in a fairly high-ranking position. Whitaker qualifies......
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drcrinum said:

Andrew McCarthy says Whitaker is legal:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/matthew-whittaker-jeff-sessions-replacement-excellent-choice/

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...Matthew Whitaker joined the Trump Justice Department as Sessions's chief of staff in October 2017. The date is relevant. The president has named him as acting attorney general under the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (the relevant provisions are codified at Sections 3345 and 3346 of Title 5, U.S. Code). There has been some commentary suggesting that because Whitaker was in a job (chief of staff) that did not require Senate confirmation, he could not become the "acting officer" in a position (AG) that calls for Senate confirmation. Not so. The Vacancies Act enables the president to name an acting officer, who may serve as such for 210 days, as long as the person named has been working at the agency or department for at least 90 days in a fairly high-ranking position. Whitaker qualifies......

If true, Napolitano needs to take himself off the air.

He hasn't been right since he came back.
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What if you just don't fill it?
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The Dems are reaching as far as possible trying to come up with a recusal for Whitaker and are saying the fact that he worked as the campaign chair for Sam Clovis in 2014. They make the argument that because Clovis was on the Trump campaign in 2016 that somehow disqualifies Whitaker from being involved in the SC. What a crock of crapola....
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Someone said last night that all the DC lawyers know each other, work for and against the same clients/issues and never-ever recuse themselves.

It's a joke to even be talking about 6 degrees from Kevin Bacon.
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mrad85 said:

drcrinum said:

Andrew McCarthy says Whitaker is legal:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/matthew-whittaker-jeff-sessions-replacement-excellent-choice/

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...Matthew Whitaker joined the Trump Justice Department as Sessions's chief of staff in October 2017. The date is relevant. The president has named him as acting attorney general under the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (the relevant provisions are codified at Sections 3345 and 3346 of Title 5, U.S. Code). There has been some commentary suggesting that because Whitaker was in a job (chief of staff) that did not require Senate confirmation, he could not become the "acting officer" in a position (AG) that calls for Senate confirmation. Not so. The Vacancies Act enables the president to name an acting officer, who may serve as such for 210 days, as long as the person named has been working at the agency or department for at least 90 days in a fairly high-ranking position. Whitaker qualifies......

If true, Napolitano needs to take himself off the air.

He hasn't been right since he came back.

True this ^. Been nothing but a namby pamby SJW since his "time out" last year. Wish he'd move on over to CNN.
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mrad85 said:

drcrinum said:

Andrew McCarthy says Whitaker is legal:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/matthew-whittaker-jeff-sessions-replacement-excellent-choice/

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...Matthew Whitaker joined the Trump Justice Department as Sessions's chief of staff in October 2017. The date is relevant. The president has named him as acting attorney general under the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (the relevant provisions are codified at Sections 3345 and 3346 of Title 5, U.S. Code). There has been some commentary suggesting that because Whitaker was in a job (chief of staff) that did not require Senate confirmation, he could not become the "acting officer" in a position (AG) that calls for Senate confirmation. Not so. The Vacancies Act enables the president to name an acting officer, who may serve as such for 210 days, as long as the person named has been working at the agency or department for at least 90 days in a fairly high-ranking position. Whitaker qualifies......

If true, Napolitano needs to take himself off the air.

He hasn't been right since he came back.

Someone asked me yesterday about Napolitano's contention that the Vacancies Reform Act precluded the Whitaker appointment as Acting AG. Since Trump has already stated he would name a replacement shortly, I was confused as why Nap assumed the 210 days would expire before confirmation of the next AG.

He's been way off several times now. Have to wonder if he's suffered a mild stroke.


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Can we get Schumer to recuse himself from the Senate?
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Rapier108 said:




BS meter is off the charts. Can't be live DC even bothers to source this. Four FISA warrants on the campaign, they don't need records from anybodies phones they already have them. Article is a joke.



Quote:

CNN reported that as recently as last month, Mueller's team sought the Trump Tower records from Trump's lawyers. Mueller has also asked Trump about his contacts with Stone in written questions submitted to the White House.Trump's team was surprised by the Stone-related request, according to CNN.

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aggiehawg said:

mrad85 said:

drcrinum said:

Andrew McCarthy says Whitaker is legal:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/matthew-whittaker-jeff-sessions-replacement-excellent-choice/

Quote:

...Matthew Whitaker joined the Trump Justice Department as Sessions's chief of staff in October 2017. The date is relevant. The president has named him as acting attorney general under the Vacancies Reform Act of 1998 (the relevant provisions are codified at Sections 3345 and 3346 of Title 5, U.S. Code). There has been some commentary suggesting that because Whitaker was in a job (chief of staff) that did not require Senate confirmation, he could not become the "acting officer" in a position (AG) that calls for Senate confirmation. Not so. The Vacancies Act enables the president to name an acting officer, who may serve as such for 210 days, as long as the person named has been working at the agency or department for at least 90 days in a fairly high-ranking position. Whitaker qualifies......

If true, Napolitano needs to take himself off the air.

He hasn't been right since he came back.

Someone asked me yesterday about Napolitano's contention that the Vacancies Reform Act precluded the Whitaker appointment as Acting AG. Since Trump has already stated he would name a replacement shortly, I was confused as why Nap assumed the 210 days would expire before confirmation of the next AG.

He's been way off several times now. Have to wonder if he's suffered a mild stroke.





I think this admin froze him out
“A republic, if you can keep it”

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ETX is honestly starting to scare me a bit as someone who may be trigger happy.
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aggiehawg said:


He's been way off several times now. Have to wonder if he's suffered a mild stroke.



No he had his Uncle Tom moment and knows his gravy train only continues with a new liberal perspective.
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Can someone explain what this is about?

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Legal desperation.

Look at me. Look at me.
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Forgot about the jurisdiction case that was on appeal. Surprised the Circuit Court acted sua sponte on this.

And Neal Katyal is wrong about Mueller's team being able to pick and choose the person that is supervising them. Above their paygrade.
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It's not really a surprise if guy read the back story.

They had oral argument last week, and the panel is just asking if the new acting AG has any effect on the arguments.

The Feds will argue "no"
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Hey did I miss all the indictments Mueller was going to drop the day after the mid-terms?

Who got nailed?
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Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
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https://nypost.com/2018/11/09/james-comey-discussed-sensitive-fbi-business-on-his-private-email/

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Fired FBI chief James Comey used his private Gmail account hundreds of times to conduct government business -- and at least seven of those messages were deemed so sensitive by the Justice Department that they declined to release them.

The former top G-man repeatedly claimed he only used his private account for "incidental" purposes and never for anything that was classified -- and that appears to be true.

But Justice acknowledged in response to a Freedom of Information request that Comey and his chief of staff discussed government business on about 1,200 pages of messages, 156 of which were obtained by The Post....

The inspector general at Justice previously slammed Comey for using his personal account for FBI business, saying it was "inconsistent" with government policy. But Comey still claimed his private email use was "incidental," that he wasn't sending "anything remotely classified" on Gmail and that his use was "a totally different thing" from Clinton's.

Experts told The Post there was a clear disconnect between what Comey said he was using his personal email for and what the Justice Department concluded he was doing after vetting his emails......



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RoscoePColtrane said:


Muller wants to Stone so bad because he thinks Stone knows so much dirt on Trump that he could send Trump to the gallows with what he knows.
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