Why in the hell is this coming out now?BigBrother said:
Oh wow! Drudge headline.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.htmlQuote:
WASHINGTON The deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, suggested last year that he secretly record President Trump in the White House to expose the chaos consuming the administration, and he discussed recruiting cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Mr. Trump from office for being unfit.
Mr. Rosenstein made these suggestions in the spring of 2017 when Mr. Trump's firing of James B. Comey as F.B.I. director plunged the White House into turmoil. Over the ensuing days, the president divulged classified intelligence to Russians in the Oval Office, and revelations emerged that Mr. Trump had asked Mr. Comey to pledge loyalty and end an investigation into a senior aide.
Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts
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Mr. Rosenstein disputed this account.
"The New York Times's story is inaccurate and factually incorrect," he said in a statement. "I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment."
Because he's only got a few days left anyways. I don't know how this help their cause though to publish it.
But, it doesn't hurt Rosey.
But, it doesn't hurt Rosey.
You could very well be correct, but it's also a very convenient time to release damaging information because all eyes are on Ford/Kavanaugh.FriscoKid said:
The NYT doesn't publish anything without being in step with the Democrat leadership. You need to look at why throwing Rosey under the bus is good for them.
My guess is that he's gone anyways as soon as the FISA application is released. He signed a fraudulent document.
To the left, it might make Rosey look like a noble patriot.
One more thing to think about. The NYT still sets the news of the day for everyone else. They wanted this to be the story. They are not like CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS. Those networks follow the lead of the NYT usually.
Really interesting that they wanted this to be the story of the day.
Really interesting that they wanted this to be the story of the day.
Nailed it! I think you are right. They can downplay his firing for the FISA stuff and say the real reason was because of this.tsuag10 said:
To the left, it might make Rosey look like a noble patriot.
ROSENSTEIN WAS THE ONE THAT WROTE A LETTER TO TRUMP RECOMMENDING COMEY BE FIRED
Let that sink in and then read that story.
Let that sink in and then read that story.
Tons of comments on NYT's tweet of this article are railing on NYT and saying that this story came from Trump so he now has an excuse to fire Rosey.
Then its accomplished its intent. To bury the real reason Rosenstein will be fired: signing off on bogus FISA warrants and appointing a special counsel for reasons built on false information and trying to undermine/overthrow a duly elected POTUS.tsuag10 said:
Tons of comments on NYT's tweet of this article are railing on NYT and saying that this story came from Trump so he now has an excuse to fire Rosey.
tsuag10 said:
Tons of comments on NYT's tweet of this article are railing on NYT and saying that this story came from Trump so he now has an excuse to fire Rosey.
Once again, I think you nailed the reason here.
Yeah, like the Times would cooperate with Trump.tsuag10 said:
Tons of comments on NYT's tweet of this article are railing on NYT and saying that this story came from Trump so he now has an excuse to fire Rosey.
Maybe that means we are getting the FISA application today then?
I smell a setup
FriscoKid said:
Maybe that means we are getting the FISA application today then?
Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
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Trey Gowdy: No game changers in Trump's declassified docs, but John Brennan will be very embarrassed
Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., tamped down expectations Thursday for the Russia-related documents President Trump selected this week for declassification.
In an interview with Fox News, Gowdy dismissed Democrats' concerns about the national security risks of declassification of sensitive information while also declaring that what the documents entail won't be the bombshell some Republicans are playing them up to be.
"I don't think it's going to change anyone's mind, but I've seen nothing in it that is going to jeopardize the national security interest of this country," Gowdy said.
This move by the NYT is a joke.
Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
"Might"?tsuag10 said:
To the left, it might make Rosey look like a noble patriot.
Hell, anything that looks like, appears, causes, damages, or sounds as if, it will endanger, or hurt Trump, the Left is for.
I'd love to review the SS private records to see how many "attempts" on Trumps life they've stopped!
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
This is backed by data.
This is not an unequivocal denial. They could have gotten some details wrong but the main point still be true.Quote:
Mr. Rosenstein disputed this account.
"The New York Times's story is inaccurate and factually incorrect," he said in a statement. "I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment."
has to be a troll.93MarineHorn said:This is not an unequivocal denial. They could have gotten some details wrong but the main point still be true.Quote:
Mr. Rosenstein disputed this account.
"The New York Times's story is inaccurate and factually incorrect," he said in a statement. "I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment."
BMX, I've followed this thread for months and have much respect for your opinions on this topic and others. To me, it seemed like this was kind of a lawyerly response that could be interpreted in different ways depending on what facts are revealed. Perhaps I'm too biased and this story is simply false and he's telling the truth. I did not mean it as a troll.Quote:
has to be a troll.
my apologies. you are great poster and not one I consider a troll. My post was mostly in jest.
thats a pretty unequivocal denial to me. Thats how lawyers talk/write for better or worse.
My bet is that the hedge is that if he said the taping part, it was because he said it sarcastically. That is what WaPo and others are reporting, and what NYT says one of its sources claimed.
thats a pretty unequivocal denial to me. Thats how lawyers talk/write for better or worse.
My bet is that the hedge is that if he said the taping part, it was because he said it sarcastically. That is what WaPo and others are reporting, and what NYT says one of its sources claimed.
Ah, that would make sense.Quote:
My bet is that the hedge is that if he said the taping part, it was because he said it sarcastically. That is what WaPo and others are reporting, and what NYT says one of its sources claimed.
BMX Bandit said:
my apologies. you are great poster and not one I consider a troll. My post was mostly in jest.
thats a pretty unequivocal denial to me. Thats how lawyers talk/write for better or worse.
My bet is that the hedge is that if he said the taping part, it was because he said it sarcastically. That is what WaPo and others are reporting, and what NYT says one of its sources claimed.
Fox is also reporting people have said it was sarcastic.
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BMX Bandit said:
my apologies. you are great poster and not one I consider a troll. My post was mostly in jest.
thats a pretty unequivocal denial to me. Thats how lawyers talk/write for better or worse.
My bet is that the hedge is that if he said the taping part, it was because he said it sarcastically. That is what WaPo and others are reporting, and what NYT says one of its sources claimed.
If that is true that would seem more like a dig at Comey, no?
VegasAg86 said:BMX Bandit said:
my apologies. you are great poster and not one I consider a troll. My post was mostly in jest.
thats a pretty unequivocal denial to me. Thats how lawyers talk/write for better or worse.
My bet is that the hedge is that if he said the taping part, it was because he said it sarcastically. That is what WaPo and others are reporting, and what NYT says one of its sources claimed.
Fox is also reporting people have said it was sarcastic.
If "Russians get us the 30,000 emails." Comment can't be seen as sarcasm then neither can this.
lol, good point.
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I had to drive into town (well for what passes as a "town" here in the boonies) to get supplies and groceries for game day. Listened to Hannity for a few minutes on the drive. He's rolling with this story.
I was skeptical when the Times story first broke, and still remain so. How stupid can a supposedly smart lawyer be to even go there days after he's been confirmed to serve the same President he's allegedly trying to oust??
I was skeptical when the Times story first broke, and still remain so. How stupid can a supposedly smart lawyer be to even go there days after he's been confirmed to serve the same President he's allegedly trying to oust??
Could the story simply be there to cover up the stench that is rising from the FISA stuff?
What I mean is DC is a swamp. As the swamp rots, some people have to be sacrificed for the sake of others. By throwing RR under the bus and give Trump a reason to fire him other than FISA, maybe others will be spared?
It could be another trap as well to snare Trump so that Mueller can file obstruction charges. Who knows!?!
What I mean is DC is a swamp. As the swamp rots, some people have to be sacrificed for the sake of others. By throwing RR under the bus and give Trump a reason to fire him other than FISA, maybe others will be spared?
It could be another trap as well to snare Trump so that Mueller can file obstruction charges. Who knows!?!
If the NYT put it out. DO NOT BELIEVE IT!
Rockdoc said:
If the NYT put it out. DO NOT BELIEVE IT!
But what happens when NYT puts out a story that others are also reporting? Do you believe the others but not NYT, disbelieve all information, or say they got it right this time?
Trying to understand the mind.
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