Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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FriscoKid said:

Oh it's like Christmas up in here. Some bad stuff is about to come out.

Rosenstein better have his desk packed up because he's not going to survive this.


Why you say that?
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I was not arguing in any way the efficacy of team Mueller. But since you wanted to bring that up, you need to acknowledge that your entire argument regarding the Cohen guilty plea was through the SDNY and not the SCO. And I fail to see how the point that it "didn't lay a glove a Trump . . . despite what the MSM press breathlessly reported" is any negative reflection on the SDNY (or SCO's for that matter).
How naive of you. Or forgetful. Mueller made a specific criminal referral to SDNY. You really think that was about taxi medallions? And why would Mueller be looking into state/city taxi medallions during a probe into conspiracy with a foreign government probe? Because the Rooskis had a plan to take over NYC's cab service? Or better yet, it was the Rooskis who started Uber and Lyfft?

LOL. You are entertaining, Max.
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BMX Bandit said:

FriscoKid said:

Oh it's like Christmas up in here. Some bad stuff is about to come out.

Rosenstein better have his desk packed up because he's not going to survive this.


Why you say that?
Because he signed off on the last FISA application and it wasn't exactly truthful. He knew the FBI was withholding info from the judge. That's why people wanted this application declassified because it implicates him.
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Bonfire1996 said:

What do you wanna bet they don't do it?


It wasn't a request it was an official Order from the POTUS. Doubt they balk

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RoscoePColtrane said:

Bonfire1996 said:

What do you wanna bet they don't do it?


It wasn't a request it was an official Order from the POTUS. Doubt they balk


Yeah m, not seeing how they "don't do it".

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aggie2812-2 said:

Oh he ordered more than just the FISA docs!! This is too funny, I don't think people thought he would really do it. I hope it really has some good stuff in it and shows us all how stupid this investigation really is.
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Tailgate88 said:

aggie2812-2 said:

Oh he ordered more than just the FISA docs!! This is too funny, I don't think people thought he would really do it. I hope it really has some good stuff in it and shows us all how stupid this investigation really is.
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I think we've all learned to not hold our breath. I'm certainly not.
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"Oh, sh*t!"
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Been pounding the drum all morning for this. Time for some Bourbon




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Happy Constitution Day!
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Bonfire1996 said:

What do you wanna bet they don't do it?
I got $50 that says they do it.,.....just after the midterms.
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Rockdoc said:

I think we've all learned to not hold our breath. I'm certainly not.
Baby steps, baby steps. Two weeks from an October surprise. As for Trump, he was resisting officially stepping in, wisely in my view, until the Kavanaugh crap hit.

Now the vote on Kavanaugh has been delayed and their will be another hearing next Monday. Rolling barrage of news competing with each other.

Note to self: Need more popcorn. Deer are getting greedy at the ranch.



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BMX Bandit said:

The parties have filed documents saying Flynn finally is ready for sentencing



Anyone remember the recommendation?
Honestly don't think there ever has been one
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Honestly don't think there ever has been one
There wasn't.

Appears Mueller is completely ready to close up shop. All pending matters are settled or pawned off to DOJ.

Mueller's report comes out October 22-27th time frame? What my spidey senses are telling me. It is Mueller. He doesn't give a fig about violating DOJ guidelines and ethics inserting himself into an election. What are they gonna do? Fire him after he has already quit?

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Nunes to follow up with the 70 depositions in 24 hrs, the news cycle is going to be at warp speed for the next two weeks. Just keep hitting them with a barrage of evidence. I'm thinking Horowitz hits the scene this Friday, no longer than the Friday after. It's going to be scorched earth.
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Well, I think we better wait on celebrating. There is a big question now looming: Will Rosenstein & Wray permit the declassification and release of the documents ordered by Trump? Suppose they refuse to comply, claiming obstruction of ongoing investigations? Then what? Trump fires them! That may play right into their hands.
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drcrinum said:

Well, I think we better wait on celebrating. There is a big question now looming: Will Rosenstein & Wray permit the declassification and release of the documents ordered by Trump? Suppose they refuse to comply, claiming obstruction of ongoing investigations? Then what? Trump fires them! That may play right into their hands.
How does declassifying obstruct the case? Answer: It doesn't.

If they do that then Sessions has to intervene. If that doesn't happen all three are fired.
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CNN is melting down currently. CNN spinning unredacted text messages as "threat" to national security. Have you ever seen reporters try so hard to not cover a story, and not want to see more documents?
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RoscoePColtrane said:

CNN is melting down currently. CNN spinning unredacted text messages as "threat" to national security. Have you ever seen reporters try so hard to not cover a story, and not want to see more documents?


Lol. Poor CNN.
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drcrinum said:

Well, I think we better wait on celebrating. There is a big question now looming: Will Rosenstein & Wray permit the declassification and release of the documents ordered by Trump? Suppose they refuse to comply, claiming obstruction of ongoing investigations? Then what? Trump fires them! That may play right into their hands.
It isn't obstruction. Wray has no call here. He doesn't make prosecution decisions.

If Rosenstein tries to "protect the integrity of on-going grand jury deliberations" he will have to be very specific, very specific about who is the target and where the GJ is located. All of that info would have been already relayed to the White House and taken into consideration before this was announce, I'd wager.
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So, where do I get my copy of all the declassified documents?
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drcrinum said:

Well, I think we better wait on celebrating. There is a big question now looming: Will Rosenstein & Wray permit the declassification and release of the documents ordered by Trump? Suppose they refuse to comply, claiming obstruction of ongoing investigations? Then what? Trump fires them! That may play right into their hands.
I'm pretty sure a directive from the POTUS is not up for dispute. This is a purposeful move, it takes a tone of redactions out of the Horowitz FISA reports. akes is that much clearer and less dispute by affected parties trying to hide their dirty laundry.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

CNN is melting down currently. CNN spinning unredacted text messages as "threat" to national security. Have you ever seen reporters try so hard to not cover a story, and not want to see more documents?

Yeah I saw those tweets. Please don't release information to the press for us to cover. Is there any question that they are really a news organization?
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RoscoePColtrane said:

CNN is melting down currently. CNN spinning unredacted text messages as "threat" to national security. Have you ever seen reporters try so hard to not cover a story, and not want to see more documents?


Really all these should be exposed in FOIA.

If it's "classified" but they are chit chatting on non-secure systems they should be charged accordingly for their mishandling of classified Intel. On top of that, they should be charged appropriately for conspiring against Trump and abuse of powers.
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Liberals, anyone want to try and claim CNN as any kind of legitimate news organization? They are actually arguing to keep information from the public?

Do any of you have even an ounce of integrity left and just want to admit that they work for the DNC?
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Agnzona said:

Liberals, anyone want to try and claim CNN as any kind of legitimate news organization? They are actually arguing to keep information from the public?

Do any of you have even an ounce of integrity left and just want to admit that they work for the DNC?
Rhetorical question. Dems have not come close to possessing integrity, much less knowing the meaning of the word since FDR.
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I was not arguing in any way the efficacy of team Mueller. But since you wanted to bring that up, you need to acknowledge that your entire argument regarding the Cohen guilty plea was through the SDNY and not the SCO. And I fail to see how the point that it "didn't lay a glove a Trump . . . despite what the MSM press breathlessly reported" is any negative reflection on the SDNY (or SCO's for that matter).
How naive of you. Or forgetful. Mueller made a specific criminal referral to SDNY. You really think that was about taxi medallions? And why would Mueller be looking into state/city taxi medallions during a probe into conspiracy with a foreign government probe? Because the Rooskis had a plan to take over NYC's cab service? Or better yet, it was the Rooskis who started Uber and Lyfft?

LOL. You are entertaining, Max.

You're all over the place. First, the reason for the referral is immaterial to the main point: there was a referral. That would negate the idea that anything wrong with the plea would look negatively on Mueller since he didn't handle the plea. Second, taking everything you say at face value: doesn't that justify the referral in the first place? If Mueller's probe is about potential conspiracy with a foreign government and he came across something that had nothing to do with that (such as taxi cab medallions as you reference), then referring it to the SDNY was the correct call. You seem to be complaining about him taking the correct course of action. I agree with you making fun of any absurd argument about the Russians being involved in the taxi issues, and it's a good thing the SCO's office did not try to make such an absurd argument in order to handle the taxi issues (because it didn't have anything to do with the Russians).

But enough of the random rabbit trail: why did you ignore the rest of my post? You know, the part we were actually discussing before the strawman?
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MASAXET said:

aggiehawg said:

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I was not arguing in any way the efficacy of team Mueller. But since you wanted to bring that up, you need to acknowledge that your entire argument regarding the Cohen guilty plea was through the SDNY and not the SCO. And I fail to see how the point that it "didn't lay a glove a Trump . . . despite what the MSM press breathlessly reported" is any negative reflection on the SDNY (or SCO's for that matter).
How naive of you. Or forgetful. Mueller made a specific criminal referral to SDNY. You really think that was about taxi medallions? And why would Mueller be looking into state/city taxi medallions during a probe into conspiracy with a foreign government probe? Because the Rooskis had a plan to take over NYC's cab service? Or better yet, it was the Rooskis who started Uber and Lyfft?

LOL. You are entertaining, Max.

You're all over the place. First, the reason for the referral is immaterial to the main point: there was a referral. That would negate the idea that anything wrong with the plea would look negatively on Mueller since he didn't handle the plea. Second, taking everything you say at face value: doesn't that justify the referral in the first place? If Mueller's probe is about potential conspiracy with a foreign government and he came across something that had nothing to do with that (such as taxi cab medallions as you reference), then referring it to the SDNY was the correct call. You seem to be complaining about him taking the correct course of action. I agree with you making fun of any absurd argument about the Russians being involved in the taxi issues, and it's a good thing the SCO's office did not try to make such an absurd argument in order to handle the taxi issues (because it didn't have anything to do with the Russians).

But enough of the random rabbit trail: why did you ignore the rest of my post? You know, the part we were actually discussing before the strawman?
Sigh. You really want to force me to say why? You are tedious, spinning and not worthy of much discussion on my part. You haven't followed the developments as they happened, haven't read the pleadings, have no clue to what you are referring.

I have tried to be non-confrontational with you despite your direct confrontations to me. You aren't presenting counter-arguments in other threads, choosing instead to personally attack me. Yeah, I read other threads and read your crap. I choose not to respond to your brand of Dem spin, nor do I flag you. Can you honestly say the same?

I really do not understand your unhealthy obsession with me. Maybe you want to hone your legal skills? I can't teach what comes naturally to me. Sorry.

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All afternoon CNN has been celebrating that "There's nothing President Trump can do to take away from the Kavanaugh story."

President Trump: Hold my diet coke.
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