Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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blindey said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

The left just can't beat this guy at 1600 Pennsylvania

Yesterday the left starts blaming Trump for the Cat 4 hurricane. Overnight the hurricane weakened to a Cat 2 hurricane.
So Trump has wrested control of the George W. Bush Hurricane Machine back from the Deep State?


I see you've been to the Q thread
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Do I need to take this hurricane machine shtick to the jokes thread?
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I have been having fun with the hurricane machine stuff for the last couple of days.

If there was a hurricane machine, don't you think Trump would have made Florence turn north? Or maybe he DID weaken the storm?

Haha.

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siap



significance, if any?
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This new Trump Executive Order in regards to Elections looks like a big deal

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/



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biobioprof said:

siap



significance, if any?
Not really, strictly legal strategy to protect ACP and still communicate with other counsel. As long as they are on the up and up and not Smashing Phones or hiding emails, selling uranium to Russia, or leaking F-35 designs to China, they are in good shape.
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TurkeyBaconLeg said:

This new Trump Executive Order in regards to Elections looks like a big deal

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/


Interesting timing. And not much press about it.
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Tailgate88 said:

TurkeyBaconLeg said:

This new Trump Executive Order in regards to Elections looks like a big deal

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/


Interesting timing. And not much press about it.

Imagine that.
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Looks like Manafort is going to plea out in the DC court
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1040467776744222720.html

Interesting speculation concerning the recent S-P email release disclosing an instance where James Baker was performing official FBI work on his Yahoo email account.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/ex-trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-agrees-to-plead-guilty-in-deal-with-special-counsel-robert-mueller.html
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Ex-Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort agrees to plead guilty in deal with special counsel Robert Mueller
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Hey guys! Sessions actually did something!

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Attorney General Jeff Sessions today issued litigation guidelines to aid Department of Justice attorneys involved in litigation challenging a federal government program, regulation, order, or law. The litigation guidelines will arm Department litigators handling these cases to present strong and consistent arguments in court against the issuance of nationwide injunctions and to reaffirm the existing constitutional and practical limitations on the authority of judges. The Department opposes the issuance of nationwide injunctions, consistent with the longstanding position of the Executive Branch under previous Administrations from both parties.

Nationwide injunctionssometimes called "non-party injunctions"prevent the federal government from enforcing an Executive Branch law or policy as to any person or organization, across the entire United States, regardless of whether such broad injunctions are necessary to provide relief to the specific plaintiffs involved in the case. In effect, they allow a single unelected federal district judge to set or veto a national policy. The increase in the number of nationwide injunctions in recent years, across Administrations of both parties, highlights the problem of judges acting outside of the bounds of their authority to grant relief to people or organizations that extends beyond the particulars of a specific case.

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"Increasingly, we are seeing individual federal district judges go beyond the parties before the court to give injunctions or orders that block the entire federal government from enforcing a law or policy throughout the country. This kind of judicial activism did not happen a single time in our first 175 years as a nation, but it has become common in recent years. It has happened to the Trump administration 25 times in less than two years. This trend must stop. We have a government to run. The Constitution does not grant to a single district judge the power to veto executive branch actions with respect to parties not before the court. Nor does it provide the judiciary with authority to conduct oversight of or review policy of the executive branch. These abuses of judicial power are contrary to law, and with these new guidelines, this Department is going to continue to fight them."
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Justice Thomas will like that.
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Wow!

Good to know he broke out of his AG cocoon to blossom into a full fledged AG. Okay, maybe not "full fledged", but it's good to know he actually notices things.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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So does this mean one activist wacko judge in Hawaii can't block an Executive Order?
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Tailgate88 said:

So does this mean one activist wacko judge in Hawaii can't block an Executive Order?
Not yet. These are guidelines for US Attorneys to argue against federal judges issuing those types of orders. Doesn't mean some wacko federal judge won't do it anyway and there you have your test case to go up to SCOTUS and they will finally rule on the issue once and for all.

Just like Justice Thomas has requested.
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aggiehawg said:

Tailgate88 said:

So does this mean one activist wacko judge in Hawaii can't block an Executive Order?
Not yet. These are guidelines for US Attorneys to argue against federal judges issuing those types of orders. Doesn't mean some wacko federal judge won't do it anyway and there you have your test case to go up to SCOTUS and they will finally rule on the issue once and for all.

Just like Justice Thomas has requested.
Thanks for Hawgsplaining it!
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No. It does mean that when the DOJ brings a case from now on, it will be careful to present a case including arguments that SHOULD remind a district judge how damaging and unusual a nationwide injunction is, and how arguably unconstitutional they may be, and how they usurp powers of the other branches of government, and how most precedent is to not injunction nationally, or to use injunctions narrowly to handle those involved in a particular case, all with the hope that these judges will have shame and bend to the bulk of precedence of not issuing these broad politicized injunctions.
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MouthBQ98 said:

No. It does mean that when the DOJ brings a case from now on, it will be careful to present a case including arguments that SHOULD remind a district judge how damaging and unusual a nationwide injunction is, and how arguably unconstitutional they may be, and how they usurp powers of the other branches of government, and how most precedent is to not injunction nationally, or to use injunctions narrowly to handle those involved in a particular case, all with the hope that these judges will have shame and bend to the bulk of precedence of not issuing these broad politicized injunctions.
What is amazing to me is that this issue was never squarely presented before now. By that I mean making a record on the limits of federal jurisdiction to be part of an appeal so SCOTUS could rule directly. But no, our DOJ is so stupid that Sessions has to issue guidelines on how to argue federal jurisdiction 101 from first year law.
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Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
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Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
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MSM and the left are partying that Manafort may be "cooperating"

But if you read the full plea deal, they are going to be disappointed again.

Manafort is pleading guilty to crimes that directly implicate Podesta and Greg Craig. Page 22 plus the exhibits Emails suggest that the lobbying firm knew all along that their work was for the pro-Russian government of Ukraine, & not a non-profit group, per new info from MUELLER, which calls into question Podesta's basis for not registering under FARA.

Page 25 MUELLER info shows that the firms knew the non-profit they were representing was a front for MANAFORT's pro-Russian client. A Mercury employee said the set-up was "like Alice in Wonderland." A Podesta employee called it "a fig leaf on a fig leaf."


https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4883087/Manafort-DC-Superseding-Criminal-Information.pdf
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I'm slotting this #2 right behind Joy Behar throwing the paper up as "TDS excitement gone wrong"




Dean is a doofus
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The people replying to that tweet are insane. And are all going to be screaming when nothing happens.
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BMX Bandit said:

I'm slotting this #2 right behind Joy Behar throwing the paper up as "TDS excitement gone wrong"




Dean is a doofus
For a lawyer, Dean is a super doofus. He should know better.
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Could you see a scenario where Mueller just composes a Manafort statement and just tell him to agree to it or deal is off?
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redline248 said:

The people replying to that tweet are insane. And are all going to be screaming when nothing happens.
I went to look at the responses after you posted this and talk about a liberal circle jerk of epic proportions.
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The Mississippi queen is bouncing in his seat saying Manafort has flipped like someone hooked 220v to his butt plug. Smith is insufferable.
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Go check out #ManafortFlips on twitter.
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aggiehawg said:

BMX Bandit said:

I'm slotting this #2 right behind Joy Behar throwing the paper up as "TDS excitement gone wrong"




Dean is a doofus
For a lawyer, Dean is a super doofus. He should know better.
I'm sure he knows but it's easy way to build his SJW cred and no harm to his reputation anyway.
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Does that tweet insinuates that Manafort is cooperating with Mueller going after Podesta Group?
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akm91 said:

Does that tweet insinuates that Manafort is cooperating with Mueller going after Podesta Group?
No it just says that Paul Manafort's cooperation agreement with the special counsel does not include matters involving the Trump campaign.
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BMX Bandit said:

I'm slotting this #2 right behind Joy Behar throwing the paper up as "TDS excitement gone wrong"




Dean is a doofus
His adulation only lasted an hour or so
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Well, Mueller COULD go after Podesta & Co on FARA violations if they wanted to, and if Manafort was flipped on anyone, it would be Podesta. Would be funny what comes out if they dig deep on Podesta with warrants.
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