I wonder if the request for a 4th CD Declass slot helped lead to Strzok's downfall. Not sure who all that goes to, but might have been the proverbial chipmunk who poked his head out at the wrong time.RoscoePColtrane said:
HEmail from Strzok
and the reply
Quote:
"If it doesn't say Men's Warehouse, I don't know it" Ellis
Quote:
"Enough is enough, we are not going to try and influence this trial with pictures of wealth. We don't convict people because because of wealth and throwing it around."
Kept on the down low to use at trial?aggiehawg said:
I may have overlooked it but I don't have any recollection of a key being used by the FBI during the motions to suppress. Anybody remember that?
RoscoePColtrane said:
Ellis ruled on the objections by team Manafort after they returned from lunch
Mueller wanted to enter into evidence photos of the Manfort's closets full of designer clothes and photos of their luxurious home.
Ellis isn't having it and sustained the objectionQuote:
"If it doesn't say Men's Warehouse, I don't know it" Ellis
Then Told Team Mueller
Quote:
"Enough is enough, we are not going to try and influence this trial with pictures of wealth. We don't convict people because because of wealth and throwing it around."
Appears Mueller is having second thoughts on calling Rick Gates now.
Team Mueller is taking a beating.
I don't think Team Mueller expected that to come out since it raises the question of how did the FBI legally obtain a copy of a key to Manafort's home.Sarge 91 said:Kept on the down low to use at trial?aggiehawg said:
I may have overlooked it but I don't have any recollection of a key being used by the FBI during the motions to suppress. Anybody remember that?
aggiehawg said:I don't think Team Mueller expected that to come out since it raises the question of how did the FBI legally obtain a copy of a key to Manafort's home.Sarge 91 said:Kept on the down low to use at trial?aggiehawg said:
I may have overlooked it but I don't have any recollection of a key being used by the FBI during the motions to suppress. Anybody remember that?
Still over 450 exhibits, many of them pictures of his houses from many angles, his clothes, his cars, receipts for his clothes, his cars, his jewelry, etc. Massive overkill that will piss Ellis off if they keep trying to introduce them.RoscoePColtrane said:
GOVERNMENT'S FIRST AMENDED EXHIBIT LIST by USA as to Paul J. Manafort, Jr (Asonye, Uzo) (Entered: 07/31/2018)
23 pages long or I would post them.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.383106/gov.uscourts.vaed.383106.189.0_1.pdf
Since today was the first I had heard of it, I have no idea where it came from or may have come from.Synopsis said:aggiehawg said:I don't think Team Mueller expected that to come out since it raises the question of how did the FBI legally obtain a copy of a key to Manafort's home.Sarge 91 said:Kept on the down low to use at trial?aggiehawg said:
I may have overlooked it but I don't have any recollection of a key being used by the FBI during the motions to suppress. Anybody remember that?
Do you believe they did get a copy? It appears as if they did.
Had it been obtained legally I doubt they'd have refused to disclosed where they got it from. This may come back to bite them. Wasn't like this was an apartment building where the Super could have let them in to avoid replacing the door and door jam. It was one of his houses. This has a funny smell to it.aggiehawg said:Since today was the first I had heard of it, I have no idea where it came from or may have come from.Synopsis said:aggiehawg said:I don't think Team Mueller expected that to come out since it raises the question of how did the FBI legally obtain a copy of a key to Manafort's home.Sarge 91 said:Kept on the down low to use at trial?aggiehawg said:
I may have overlooked it but I don't have any recollection of a key being used by the FBI during the motions to suppress. Anybody remember that?
Do you believe they did get a copy? It appears as if they did.
How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
I was wondering the same thing. If the judge has to continuously reprimand the prosecution, how long will he let this go on? Can he call a mistrial for not following his rules? I honestly don't know. Lawyers?FriscoKid said:
Any chance Ellis just tosses the case and it never goes to the jury?
Probably not, but he can hold them in contempt, right?Fuzzy Dunlop said:I was wondering the same thing. If the judge has to continuously reprimand the prosecution, how long will he let this go on? Can he call a mistrial for not following his rules? I honestly don't know. Lawyers?FriscoKid said:
Any chance Ellis just tosses the case and it never goes to the jury?
Beat me to it.blindey said:
From the linked article:How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
blindey said:
From the linked article:How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
This is awesome.blindey said:
From the linked article:How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
It isn't. I mean, JFC! First Asonye tells Ellis he may not call Gates because he's trying "to shorten the trial" but he's going to call Manafort's tailor? What's next? His barber?blindey said:
From the linked article:How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
These are the very kind that will be on suicide watch when Mueller clears Trump in full and flushes the entire left wing narrative and future talking points down the toilet.SpreadsheetAg said:
Good gracious
Dino Pageletti his cobbleraggiehawg said:It isn't. I mean, JFC! First Asonye tells Ellis he may not call Gates because he's trying "to shorten the trial" but he's going to call Manafort's tailor? What's next? His barber?blindey said:
From the linked article:How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
I'm holding my breath for an appearance by the fish pond maintainer himself.aggiehawg said:It isn't. I mean, JFC! First Asonye tells Ellis he may not call Gates because he's trying "to shorten the trial" but he's going to call Manafort's tailor? What's next? His barber?blindey said:
From the linked article:How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
Directed verdict is the term you are looking for. And I agree this strategy is odd, do a little about his lavish lifestyle but then move onto to the nuts and bolts of how he paid for it using his tax returns and bank records.blindey said:I'm holding my breath for an appearance by the fish pond maintainer himself.aggiehawg said:It isn't. I mean, JFC! First Asonye tells Ellis he may not call Gates because he's trying "to shorten the trial" but he's going to call Manafort's tailor? What's next? His barber?blindey said:
From the linked article:How on earth is this relevant to any crime being prosecuted?Quote:
The trial has recessed for lunch until 1:30 p.m., when prosecutors said they will return and call three more witnesses to the stand, including one of Manafort's suit makers Maximillian Katzman, The Washington Post reported.
So not being in the room I have no idea, but based on what we've seen reported and the contents of exhibit lists, was their trial strategy to spend a while trying to use expensive crap to get the jury to hate Manafort and then slip in the boring, actually prosecutable evidence at the end, hope to get a conviction on something, and evade (whatever the criminal version of a JNOV is called) by being able to point at whatever they got into the record on the back end? And the judge basically shut down the part where they get the jury to hate Manafort as not relevant?
Has to be some serious combination of weak and dry if you're calling his tailor right out of the gate.aggiehawg said:
Directed verdict is the term you are looking for. And I agree this strategy is odd, do a little about his lavish lifestyle but then move onto to the nuts and bolts of how he paid for it using his tax returns and bank records.
