Well the taxpayers, to start. Carter Page can sue the crap out of the government and Trump would be handing him the evidence to do so and win bigly.Quote:
Trump not declassifying anything (not one) serves what and who's purpose?
C'mon. Even a $1B judgement wouldn't move the needle ... that's like limiting SNAP benefits to 5 liters/wk for soft drinks. ;-)aggiehawg said:Well the taxpayers, to start. Carter Page can sue the crap out of the government and Trump would be handing him the evidence to do so and win bigly.Quote:
Trump not declassifying anything (not one) serves what and who's purpose?
Not saying that is the reason but it might be a consideration.
I hope this turns into a legal debate. My money is on Mrs. Hawg.aggiehawg said:Well the taxpayers, to start. Carter Page can sue the crap out of the government and Trump would be handing him the evidence to do so and win bigly.Quote:
Trump not declassifying anything (not one) serves what and who's purpose?
Not saying that is the reason but it might be a consideration.
Maybe some version of this. Politically, maybe it's better to let Congress continue to drag it out, exhaust every effort, fail miserably, and then intercede. However. that's a big risk heading into midterms with an uncertain outcome.bobbranco said:
It serves Trump.
Cow Hop Ag said:It is the same thing. Not an millimeter of daylight between the two definitions.captkirk said:Why are libs consistently degenerates?drcrinum said:
aggiehawg said:Although they weren't listed as being at the meeting, which former reporters were long-term jonesing to get Manafort for years? Glenn Simpson and his wife, Mary Jacoby.Quote:
This is the mmeting where a reporter told the prosecutors about Manafort's lock containing loads of documents, including the code to the lock on the locker. Somebody set up Manafort.
Notice the meeting was set up by Weissman.
Think about it. Mueller still went to the trouble of doing a "consensual" search with a Manafort peon who had access to the locker, yet they just took pictures of the labels on the boxes, guarded it until it closed and then came back with a precisely worded warrant.Quote:
So the FBI had the location and the lock code for Manafort's storage 6 weeks before they obtained a warrant to do the file grab.
Let's see what POTUS does at Helsinki...if we give in on Crimea and Sanctions lots of questions are going to be raised.aggiehawg said:
Odd?
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Just getting to Moscow was difficult for the lawmakers; Russian authorities made it difficult to get visas. Johnson, in his role as subcommittee chair, had tried to organize a trip to Russia in January. The trip was to have included Johnson, Republican Sen. John Barrasso, and Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen. The Russians reportedly denied a visa to Shaheen.
"I met with Ambassador [Anatoly] Antonov in December," Johnson said. "He said the whole purpose was to start improving our relationship. But then he brought up the fact that there just might be a problem with one of the members of the delegation not being granted a visa. But he said we can take care of that if you let members of the Duma into America. In other words, they were playing games. So unfortunately I had to cancel that trip, because we were not going to let them play that type of game."
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"They spent all kinds of time pushing back," Johnson said, "saying you want evidence of interfering in politics? What about the money you actually appropriate to do just that? They had plenty of pushback."
Of course, the Russians admitted nothing, claiming there was no evidence to prove the election-meddling accusations against them. But everyone knew the U.S. intelligence community has determined that Russia tried to influence the American election, and that the Russian effort could not have happened without the knowledge of top Russian leaders. Still, the Russian leaders talking to the U.S. delegation did not concede anything.
"I wasn't expecting anybody to confess anything, and of course they didn't," Johnson said. "They just pushed back. They said you guys do way worse than we have done."
As is always the case with Russia, there was a lot of complaining about U.S. sanctions. The senators reminded the Russian officials that the minimum condition for even the possibility of loosened sanctions is no interference in the 2018 U.S. midterm elections.
"You want a better relationship? Obviously we can't see any evidence of interference in the 2018 elections," Johnson said. "That case was made time and time and time again. There could be no misunderstanding that the basic table stakes of ongoing discussions, improving the relationship, is to stop interfering in our elections. We could not have made that more plain."
"Hearing it delivered loudly and clearly from a bunch of Republican senators that election meddling is a very, very serious issue that matters to us, and if there's any hope that any of these sanctions get lifted, that they've got to demonstrate some change," added Thune. "We were there to find out if there's a path forward to a more responsible relationship between our two countries, starting with their quitting interfering in our democratic process."
The lawmakers in addition to Thune and Johnson, there were Sens. Richard Shelby, Steve Daines, John Hoeven, John Kennedy, and Jerry Moran, in addition to Rep. Kay Granger also talked about Russian military aggression. Though the largest single topic was election meddling, there was also time spent on Ukraine, Crimea, Syria, and INF treaty and nuclear weapons issues.
Well it seems like the AP reporters named are pushing back saying they didn't give any location or Name to the FBI.... Hmmm what about the code, no mention of that or whether they gave them that.aggiehawg said:Think about it. Mueller still went to the trouble of doing a "consensual" search with a Manafort peon who had access to the locker, yet they just took pictures of the labels on the boxes, guarded it until it closed and then came back with a precisely worded warrant.Quote:
So the FBI had the location and the lock code for Manafort's storage 6 weeks before they obtained a warrant to do the file grab.
"One of the few that actually stands by principle consistently" - in 2017K2-HMFIC said:
Disabato said in the interview where he talks about this stuff that he considers Jordan a friend. That's not news.
Actually his political views are of no real relevance to me.BMX Bandit said:
Very ironic that you say he is pushing a talking point.
You are doing exactly that by posting that tweet. As "evidence"!
I think this whole attack on Jordan is garbage. It's clear that the media wants to take him down because of his position against the investigation.
But that tweet Makes it more likely that DiSabato is telling the truth. He likes Jordan. But in this case, he says Jordan is not being honest.
If the case were thst DiSabato was someone that always criticize Jordan and was a giant liberal, then his comments about Jordan and the Ohio state situation would have a far far less credibility
Put it this way, who do you give more credibility to if they are criticizing Trump? Nancy Pelot see or Ted Cruz?
Manafort is an opportunist. Was he supposedly in on the scheme or just a useful idiot steered in the targeted direction?redline248 said:
Not the only person who has called Manafort a plant.
That is quite a stretch. I guess potentially it could be true, but hiring Manafort, knowing how slimy he is doesn't seem like a 24D chess move.drcrinum said:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1016295020486328320.html
Good thread.
Yeah, I like Trump but don't consider him some Jedi Master. I also think Brad Parscale was the computer genius guy, not Kushner.Quote:
That is quite a stretch. I guess potentially it could be true, but hiring Manafort, knowing how slimy he is doesn't seem like a 24D chess move.
Swampers convinced Trump that Manafort was needed for the delegate issues that could arise with the never Trumpers. I'm sure a scumbag like Manafort has a little black book of dirt on everybody. That's the only way I could envision him having any leverage to "wrangle" delegates. His 49 days involvement with the campaign is really the only thing that gave he whole collusion story any real teeth.aggiehawg said:Yeah, I like Trump but don't consider him some Jedi Master. I also think Brad Parscale was the computer genius guy, not Kushner.Quote:
That is quite a stretch. I guess potentially it could be true, but hiring Manafort, knowing how slimy he is doesn't seem like a 24D chess move.
That Sandra Bullock movie, Our Brand is Crisis, comes to mind. Trump's brand is either that or "controlled chaos."
