Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Where is that guy getting this info?
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redline248 said:

Where is that guy getting this info?
He's a Washington DC insider, investigative journalist, author, conservative.
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Follow up: is anything significant likely to come of that revelation?
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To put the thread back on topic, the Mueller coup d'etat.



And for the record, the guy didn't get a position in the administration, but the morons on Twitter think this is it, they've got Trump now and he's about to be marched out in chains.
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It doesn't necessarily implicate Trump, but it shows why Manafort's indictments are relevant to the special council investigation.
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It doesn't implicate him at all, but you keep hoping.
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Lot Y Tailgate said:

It doesn't necessarily implicate Trump, but it shows why Manafort's indictments are relevant to the special council investigation.
just out of curiosity, what is it that you think the Russians had the power to do to help Trump win the election? Just for arguments sake, let's say Trump absolutely 100% colluded with the Russians. What was the action taken by both sides that affected the results? Did they hack the polling machines?
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The most likely thing would be coordinating the release of DNC and Podests emails. But I don't know if that happened. With as much has been dug up so far the investigation should carry on. It wouldn't be a "national distraction" if Trump would just shut up about it.
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A banker helped get someone a loan?

I'm speechless. Completely inappropriate and nefarious. Lock someone up!

Oh they did? Ok good!
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Lot Y Tailgate said:

The most likely thing would be coordinating the release of DNC and Podests emails. But I don't know if that happened. With as much has been dug up so far the investigation should carry on. It wouldn't be a "national distraction" if Trump would just shut up about it.



If Trump didn't release the emails, steal the emails, pay someone to do it, or cover it up, then Trump didn't commit a crime.

If trump had so much as talked to someone from Russia about the emails it would not have been a crime. What was a crime, was Bill Clinton accepting campaign financing from the Chinese government laundered through Buddhist temples.

And he Never got indicted even though the evidence is clear on that one.

Unless they can prove Trump paid the Russians to hack voting booths to change votes you got nothing.

This has been a year and a half of a big ole nothing burger and an overt attempt to unseat a duly elected president. TDS at its worst.

Keep the investigation going all you want. They will find nothing of substance and continue to waste taxpayer dollars in the process.
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Did they fabricate emails? How is releasing actual emails that were written a bad thing for the DNC?
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Wouldn't be a national disaster if you started your own thread either.
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Lot Y Tailgate said:

The most likely thing would be coordinating the release of DNC and Podests emails. But I don't know if that happened. With as much has been dug up so far the investigation should carry on. It wouldn't be a "national distraction" if Trump would just shut up about it.

So your main "gotcha" is that trump coordinated releasing some of the TRUTHS from the Pedesta/Hillary emails?? oh my, heaven forbid the public see what they really thought behind closed doors. BTW, most of your points are really pathetic, I honestly expected more out of an Ag, regardless on the left or right.
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smstork1007 said:

Lot Y Tailgate said:

The most likely thing would be coordinating the release of DNC and Podests emails. But I don't know if that happened. With as much has been dug up so far the investigation should carry on. It wouldn't be a "national distraction" if Trump would just shut up about it.

So your main "gotcha" is that trump coordinated releasing some of the TRUTHS from the Pedesta/Hillary emails?? oh my, heaven forbid the public see what they really thought behind closed doors. BTW, most of your points are really pathetic, I honestly expected more out of an Ag, regardless on the left or right.


I don't know if that is the main gotcha, that's why the investigation should continue. The general consensus in this thread was that Manafort's charges were going to be dropped, that is looking extremely less likely and now we have evidence of Manafort's misdeeds actually involving the campaign. People have been screaming on here that Manafort's misdeeds had nothing to do with the campaign, and here we are now, they were wrong.
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I don't see the misdeed yet, he got a loan from a banker, what's the problem? The guy didn't get a position on the campaign
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redline248 said:

Follow up: is anything significant likely to come of that revelation?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/29/fbi-employees-who-fail-lie-detector-tests-can-stil/
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fbi-polygraphs-countermeasures_us_57ffe22ce4b0162c043ae621


Every 5 years a polygraph is administered for high level security clearances. Anyone who flunks one has a problem; not necessarily termination but...
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Quote:

The bank executive "expressed interest in working on the Trump campaign, told (Manafort) about his interest, and eventually secured a position advising the Trump campaign," the filing said. The unnamed man "expressed an interest in serving in the administration of President Trump, but did not secure such a position."

While the senior executive is unnamed in this filing, in a previous court filing prosecutors identified Lender D as The Federal Savings Bank.

"Here, it would be difficult for the jury to understand why the loans were approved without understanding that the lender approved the loans, in spite of the identified deficiencies, because the senior executive factored in his own personal ambition," prosecutors wrote in the filing.


Wouldn't this be more of a misdeed by the banker?
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Also, it should be easy to figure out which person this banker is, right?
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Shocking.

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Newly available records do not fully comply with congressional House subpoenas, and barring new developments Friday, recent documents from the FBI and Justice Department do not meet deadlines set by a House resolution, according to a source close to the discussions.

Three House Republican committee chairmen, Trey Gowdy on Oversight, Devin Nunes on Intelligence and Bob Goodlatte on Judiciary, requested the records, with one subpoena issued as long ago as August of last year.

The source said House staffers -- who reviewed records Thursday at the Justice Department (DOJ) because lawmakers were out of town for the holiday recess -- concluded that Justice and the FBI have still not provided information and records about FBI activities before the investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 elections officially opened on July 31 of that year.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/06/doj-fbi-still-not-in-full-compliance-with-document-request-sources.html
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/07/06/yes-its-true-peter-strzok-failed-his-polygraph-yet-retained-security-clearance-and-position-on-two-investigations/

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...Validating Paul Sperry's tweet. Yes, FBI Agent Peter Strzok failed his polygraph and his supervisors were notified on January 16th, 2016, his results were "out of scope". Meaning he failed his polygraph test. Yet he was never removed from any responsibilities; and against dept policy, he did not have his clearance revoked until he could clear.

This was discussed during the Rosenstein testimony and overlooked by most.

After Strzok was recently removed from official responsibility within the FBI, his security clearances were retroactively revoked. That revocation was due to OPR review and was a retroactive revocation action initiated by career officials within the FBI to cover-up (ie. CYA) the two-and-a-half years he was allowed to work when he should not have been.

Current FBI officials, including Trump appointed FBI Director Christopher Wray, are covering up the scandal within the FBI in a misguided effort to save the institution.

This is the same reason the FBI hid the Strzok/Page memos and emails away from IG review and congressional oversight.

There is a massive, ongoing, 'institutional' cover-up within the DOJ and FBI. These are simply examples highlighting the severity therein. Peter Strzok and his legal team are counting on the need for the institution to be protected as their shield from any prosecution....



Start at 1:50 in the Youtube.


More on that tweet about Strzok flunking his polygraph. It's a coverup by Wray & Rosenstein. Wray won't answer the questions. Remember, Wray, Mueller & Comey worked together on the Enron Case.
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Lot Y Tailgate said:

It doesn't necessarily implicate Trump, but it shows why Manafort's indictments are relevant to the special council investigation.

The SC was appointed to investigate collusion with Russia. How is this relevant?
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FriscoKid said:

Lot Y Tailgate said:

It doesn't necessarily implicate Trump, but it shows why Manafort's indictments are relevant to the special council investigation.

The SC was appointed to investigate collusion with Russia. How is this relevant?


We are still waiting on one of these judges to rule on Mueller's jurisdiction to prosecute Manafort over past crimes, aren't we? Or did that ever happen after he demanded the memo?
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redline248 said:

FriscoKid said:

Lot Y Tailgate said:

It doesn't necessarily implicate Trump, but it shows why Manafort's indictments are relevant to the special council investigation.

The SC was appointed to investigate collusion with Russia. How is this relevant?


We are still waiting on one of these judges to rule on Mueller's jurisdiction to prosecute Manafort over past crimes, aren't we? Or did that ever happen after he demanded the memo?
Quite a bit of filing done in Judge Ellis' court yesterday on behalf of Manafort, I've downloaded them and will post anything that looks overly interesting, looks like several on Venue, a Motion to waive appearance except for trial by Manafort, he doesn't want to ride back and forth in chains for nonsense basically. Will update when I read through the rest

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Mueller's response to the three motions in limine filed by Manafort













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This will throw a damper on the little conspiracy theorist thinking any of this stuff with Manafort deals with Russian collusion and the Trump campaign.


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The government does not intend to present at trial evidence or argument concerning collusion with the Russian government and, accordingly, does not oppose the defendant's motion in that respect.


This is from the horses mouth
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So I thought the election outcome turned when Comey decided to re-open the invention of HRC?

Are we really back to Russian/Trump Collusion? One that If it even existed no one can quite pinpoint the effort. Did the Russians hack polling booths? Did they pay illegal aliens to vote? Or conjure up the dead to some how show up on voting day to cast their vote for Trump? Did the russians help voters learn to vote more than once ? Travel to different states to vote ?

The only evidence of anything is that all of the collusion story is fiction. It reads like a pretty good fictional story.

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DeWrecking Crew said:

I don't see the misdeed yet, he got a loan from a banker, what's the problem? The guy didn't get a position on the campaign
Mueller is claiming Manafort lied on the applications.

Nothing that involves Trump whatsoever






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Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
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redline248 said:

FriscoKid said:

Lot Y Tailgate said:

It doesn't necessarily implicate Trump, but it shows why Manafort's indictments are relevant to the special council investigation.

The SC was appointed to investigate collusion with Russia. How is this relevant?


We are still waiting on one of these judges to rule on Mueller's jurisdiction to prosecute Manafort over past crimes, aren't we? Or did that ever happen after he demanded the memo?
this was already ruled on. Manafort lost
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FriscoKid said:

Lot Y Tailgate said:

It doesn't necessarily implicate Trump, but it shows why Manafort's indictments are relevant to the special council investigation.

The SC was appointed to investigate collusion with Russia. How is this relevant?
read the entire memo.

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The MSM sure did let go of the Tony rezko bone quickly back in the day. All it took was for Obama to say it was boneheaded to do a deal with his "friend" he'd known for years.
Staff - take out the trash.
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Is this the best thread in TexAgs history? I think it might be
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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BenFiasco14 said:

Is this the best thread in TexAgs history? I think it might be


Kid, you should have been here for listeater, Fran needs a stache, and big red auto
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BMX Bandit said:

BenFiasco14 said:

Is this the best thread in TexAgs history? I think it might be


Kid, you should have been here for listeater, Fran needs a stache, and big red auto
Hey old man, were you able to get your walker into Kyle Field for Nebraska in 2010?
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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BenFiasco14 said:

Is this the best thread in TexAgs history? I think it might be


Not even close.

Hell, this isnt the best thread with Barnes posting in it.
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