Wait, but he was just talking about the collective we...as in the voters. Totally harmless, which is why they desperately covered it up. That Q dude is right, these people are stupid.

Makes wonder what else is out there?

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Shocking to no one considering McCain's voting history.

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And here we have another `Republican' joining the adversary to the `conservativism' he so thinks Trump has betrayed. So he joins the equivalent of a G.I. going to the Islamists. Riighht.

If this was his manager, it gives more credence to some of the chatter about him.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5875505/FBI-agent-Sally-Moyer-seen-time-identity-revealed.html

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The FBI agent on the Hillary Clinton email investigation who traded anti-Trump texts with her FBI colleague lover is pictured here for the first time since her name was revealed by congress.

Sally Moyer, 44, who texted '**** Trump,' called President Trump's voters '******ed' and vowed to quit 'on the spot' if he won the election, was seen leaving her home early Friday morning wearing a floral top and dark pants.

She shook her head and declined to discuss the controversy with a DailyMail.com reporter, and ducked quickly into her nearby car in the rain without an umbrella before driving off.

Moyer's texts and instant messages from her FBI devices were included in a 568-page inspector general report released last Friday, which said those messages and others 'raised concerns about potential bias in the Clinton investigation.'

Moyer was identified only as 'Agent 5' in the report, but her name was released by Rep. Mark Meadows during a congressional hearing this week.

Moyer, an attorney and registered Democrat appears to have worked at the FBI since at least September of 2006. She previously worked for law firm Crowell & Moring. Moyer graduated from Allegheny College in 1996 with a degree in political science.

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At the time of the texts, Moyer was on the 'filter team' for the Clinton probe a small team of government officials that determines whether information obtained by the FBI is considered 'privileged' or if it can be used in the investigation.

Moyer exchanged most of the messages with another FBI agent who worked on the Clinton investigation, identified as 'Agent 1' in the report.

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Look, a liberal skank.

Hhhmm. Mueller folding up shop? Or is he pawning that stinker of a case off to someone else to dismiss?

Mueller's team is seeking to prevent the defense for Paul Manafort from arguing to jurors that he was targeted for prosecution because of his role in Trump's presidential bid. DOesn't want Manafort to be able to talk about the election? Mueller is not going to turn this into a case about what Manafort did on the campaign i.e. collusion... What a joke this is turning into. Manafort is a scumbag but damn Mueller you have to play by the rules, tasked with investigating the Trump campaign, yet doesn't want to talk about the election....

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"Manafort should be precluded from arguing that he has been singled out for prosecution because of his position in the campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump, or otherwise asserting that he has been selectively prosecuted by the Special Counsel's Office,"

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You saw Techno_Fog's comments concerning those tweets, implying Jeannie Rhee is incompetent?

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Mueller is not going to turn this into a case about what Manafort did on the campaign i.e. collusion... What a joke this is turning into. Manafort is a scumbag but damn Mueller you have to play by the rules, tasked with investigating the Trump campaign, yet doesn't want to talk about the election....

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Ehhh...?? Then even if he was convicted fully, and went to jail beyond just bail revoked, it would be irrelevant to Trump and the collusion case. Why would it matter.

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You saw Techno_Fog's comments concerning those tweets, implying Jeannie Rhee is incompetent?

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Well she was the one who wanted to brief the issue of service of process when defense counsel had entered a general appearance and were standing there in the courtroom, clearly waiving the service of process issue and she indicted a company that was non-existent at the time of the acts complained.

Both are pretty dumb.

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Mueller is not going to turn this into a case about what Manafort did on the campaign i.e. collusion... What a joke this is turning into. Manafort is a scumbag but damn Mueller you have to play by the rules, tasked with investigating the Trump campaign, yet doesn't want to talk about the election....

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Ehhh...?? Then even if he was convicted fully, and went to jail beyond just bail revoked, it would be irrelevant to Trump and the collusion case. Why would it matter.

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Could Mueller be worried that Manafort's case will dredge up things that will compromise Mueller's investigation/case?

Hawg, don't answer that without answering this too.

Since there appears to be a couple of different methods to apply pressure on Rosey (supoena/contempt/impeachment), if they were to end up putting him in jail, wouldn't someone else have to take his place?

If so, wouldn't it be possible that the new person would be amenable to releasing these docs?

But wouldn't the replacement have to be approved by Congress? And if so, what are the chances that someone willing to do that would be confirmed?

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But wouldn't the replacement have to be approved by Congress? And if so, what are the chances that someone willing to do that would be confirmed?

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I think this is your answer:

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On March 7, 2017, the White House announced Noel Francisco's nomination to the position of Solicitor General. He was confirmed by the U.S. Senate by a vote of 50-47 on September 19, 2017.

With the resignation of Rachel Brand on February 8, 2018, Noel Francisco became the third-ranking official in the Justice Department; he would be in charge of the Mueller investigation should the second-ranking official, Rod Rosenstein recuse himself, quit, or be fired.

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Well, good question.

I know Wray had to go through it, but Rosey just kind of seemed to inherit the job. Of course, thats before Fiasco started my legal/US government education on Decmeber 2, 2017 with this thread.

Bottom line, the suggested actions above are coming, and I don't thing it's just going to be contempt. When Holder was held in contempt, he just kept rolling (mores the pity). So, I suspect it's going to be a little more aggressive, not that he doesn't deserve it. Due to the fact that Trump can't fire him for potitical reasons, Congress is going to have to get it done.

BTW, if when y'all are driving home today, if you see Sessions spine on the highway, please pick it up. I'll pay for the shipping.

Rosenstein was also voted on by the Senate, almost unanimously (vote was 94-6) on April 25, 2017.

https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00114

Arrrrgh!

I was afraid of that. The fact that so many voted for him from the left could reasonably be seen as the left knowing who, and what he is, when the right was either ignorant (probable), or just along for the ride.

Oh, thanks Marble, and tsu.

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Hawg, don't answer that without answering this too.

Since there appears to be a couple of different methods to apply pressure on Rosey (supoena/contempt/impeachment), if they were to end up putting him in jail, wouldn't someone else have to take his place?

If so, wouldn't it be possible that the new person would be amenable to releasing these docs?

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There are a couple of things bubbling in the background here. There was a hearing before Judge Ellis (Virginia case) last month where the subject was Mueller's jurisdiction vis a vis Manafort's old money laundering allegations from years ago. Judge Ellis demanded an unredacted copy of Rosenstein's August 2, 2017 memo purporting to expand or clarify or explain Mueller's jurisdiction. Judge Ellis was delivered an unredacted copy of same a few weeks back but has not set a hearing yet. That memo is still under court seal.

Could Rosenstein and Mueller have something to fear if that memo becomes public? We don't know.

Over on the Congressional side, the original Electronic Communication ("EC") that is just the nomenclature used when a Full Investigation is opened. Nunes has been after that for months and months but Rosenstein has refused.

Both the Rosenstein Memo and the EC address the breadth and scope and type (crim/counter-intel) of the original Russia investigation and then what Mueller took over. Sure is suspicious, isn't it?

As to the actual jailing of Rosenstein for contempt, were that to occur there would be a temporary Acting Deputy Attorney General named since that is a position requiring Senate confirmation. And that person would presumably make the decision. At any point, Sessions can step back in and order the docs released of course, keeping Rosenstein out of jail.

Now that's a lot of words that are mostly speculating about things we don't know. I don't think Rosenstein is going to actually be jailed, BTW. As a pundit pointed out today, the Holder contempt of Congress never resulted in his being arrested and that charge is still open.

One last thought, it is at least refreshing to see signs of a spine in some of our GOP lawmakers. Hope Congress reasserts their Constitutional role of oversight over the Executive Branch. Separation of powers and checks and balances result in better governing, in my view.

Both Cruz and Cornyn voted Yea for that POS.

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Both Cruz and Cornyn voted Yea for that POS.

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It might be worth reminding them that they voted for this corruption, and now they need to fix it!

Do we (should we) believe that Rosenstein actually gave the original version of that memo to the court, and not some edited version?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5875505/FBI-agent-Sally-Moyer-seen-time-identity-revealed.html

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The FBI agent on the Hillary Clinton email investigation who traded anti-Trump texts with her FBI colleague lover is pictured here for the first time since her name was revealed by congress.

Sally Moyer, 44, who texted '**** Trump,' called President Trump's voters '******ed' and vowed to quit 'on the spot' if he won the election, was seen leaving her home early Friday morning wearing a floral top and dark pants.

She shook her head and declined to discuss the controversy with a DailyMail.com reporter, and ducked quickly into her nearby car in the rain without an umbrella before driving off.

Moyer's texts and instant messages from her FBI devices were included in a 568-page inspector general report released last Friday, which said those messages and others 'raised concerns about potential bias in the Clinton investigation.'

Moyer was identified only as 'Agent 5' in the report, but her name was released by Rep. Mark Meadows during a congressional hearing this week.

Moyer, an attorney and registered Democrat appears to have worked at the FBI since at least September of 2006. She previously worked for law firm Crowell & Moring. Moyer graduated from Allegheny College in 1996 with a degree in political science.

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At the time of the texts, Moyer was on the 'filter team' for the Clinton probe a small team of government officials that determines whether information obtained by the FBI is considered 'privileged' or if it can be used in the investigation.

Moyer exchanged most of the messages with another FBI agent who worked on the Clinton investigation, identified as 'Agent 1' in the report.

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Look, a liberal skank.

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Looks like I expected

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Do we (should we) believe that Rosenstein actually gave the original version of that memo to the court, and not some edited version?

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Yes. Because if he didn't, Judge Ellis would have blown a gasket and held Mueller and Rosenstein in contempt. The Judge have a direct order from the bench, give me the unredacted version under seal or invoke the Classified Information Procedures Act, (CIPA.) Either way, he was going to see it.

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Do we (should we) believe that Rosenstein actually gave the original version of that memo to the court, and not some edited version?

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Yes. Because if he didn't, Judge Ellis would have blown a gasket and held Mueller and Rosenstein in contempt. The Judge have a direct order from the bench, give me the unredacted version under seal or invoke the Classified Information Procedures Act, (CIPA.) Either way, he was going to see it.

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What I mean is, how would the judge know if it was original or edited? Who has possession of the original to which one could compare?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5875505/FBI-agent-Sally-Moyer-seen-time-identity-revealed.html

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The FBI agent on the Hillary Clinton email investigation who traded anti-Trump texts with her FBI colleague lover is pictured here for the first time since her name was revealed by congress.

Sally Moyer, 44, who texted '**** Trump,' called President Trump's voters '******ed' and vowed to quit 'on the spot' if he won the election, was seen leaving her home early Friday morning wearing a floral top and dark pants.

She shook her head and declined to discuss the controversy with a DailyMail.com reporter, and ducked quickly into her nearby car in the rain without an umbrella before driving off.

Moyer's texts and instant messages from her FBI devices were included in a 568-page inspector general report released last Friday, which said those messages and others 'raised concerns about potential bias in the Clinton investigation.'

Moyer was identified only as 'Agent 5' in the report, but her name was released by Rep. Mark Meadows during a congressional hearing this week.

Moyer, an attorney and registered Democrat appears to have worked at the FBI since at least September of 2006. She previously worked for law firm Crowell & Moring. Moyer graduated from Allegheny College in 1996 with a degree in political science.

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At the time of the texts, Moyer was on the 'filter team' for the Clinton probe a small team of government officials that determines whether information obtained by the FBI is considered 'privileged' or if it can be used in the investigation.

Moyer exchanged most of the messages with another FBI agent who worked on the Clinton investigation, identified as 'Agent 1' in the report.

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Look, a liberal skank.

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Looks like I expected

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The only question is how many cats does she own.

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Do we (should we) believe that Rosenstein actually gave the original version of that memo to the court, and not some edited version?

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Yes. Because if he didn't, Judge Ellis would have blown a gasket and held Mueller and Rosenstein in contempt. The Judge have a direct order from the bench, give me the unredacted version under seal or invoke the Classified Information Procedures Act, (CIPA.) Either way, he was going to see it.

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What I mean is, how would the judge know if it was original or edited? Who has possession of the original to which one could compare?

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because doing that is a one-way ticket to getting your bar card clipped. And, frankly, a visit from the marshal service.

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Do we (should we) believe that Rosenstein actually gave the original version of that memo to the court, and not some edited version?

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Yes. Because if he didn't, Judge Ellis would have blown a gasket and held Mueller and Rosenstein in contempt. The Judge have a direct order from the bench, give me the unredacted version under seal or invoke the Classified Information Procedures Act, (CIPA.) Either way, he was going to see it.

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What I mean is, how would the judge know if it was original or edited? Who has possession of the original to which one could compare?

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He has the redacted copy. MicroSoft Word and a light bulb take care of the rest. If they don't match, it will be evident.

Strzok has been subpoenaed.

Will he show?

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Strzok has been subpoenaed.

Will he show?

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I doubt it...probably join Comey in London. I wonder if he can leave the country though.

Just to quibble here. Issuing the subpoena is not the same as serving it. Unless Strzok's attorney has agreed to accept service of process on his behalf and has received it, Strzok hasn't been completely "subpoenaed" to compel his appearance.

I trust that service has been accomplished but just something to be aware of, regarding the June 27th date.

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Strzok has been subpoenaed.

Will he show?

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I doubt it...probably join Comey in London. I wonder if he can leave the country though.

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Just a thought-- is Obama overseas now, or no???