That's my guess too. That's why she has been so quiet. She could be on CNN in an hour if she wanted. There is a reason she is laying low.
MSM - They're not lures...they're fishing accoutrements.drcrinum said:
Lures = Spies, more then one. Certainly suspicious for entrapment, and it goes back to December 28, 2015. And that OCONUS is surely the UK...it ain't Russia. This is beginning to look like a much larger and even more complex operation than we have suspected.
More likely that since D's were colluding with Russia, they just assumed the R's were as well.MouthBQ98 said:
That is before any of the primaries. Makes me wonder if they possibly started with the presumption that there was Republican-Russian corrupt dealings and they simply had to find them, and that they wouldn't have to look very hard.
I switch to Fox Business during that hour or listen to Merle Haggard on Willie's RoadhouseHeardAboutPerio said:
What XM radio News channel can one get a less biased account during the 2 P.M. hour on Fox while Shep is making me want to throw the entire radio out the window? He's unbearable. His admant stances on these issues that there is no debate sounds like CNN at any given hour.
And any Democrat campaign not 100% playing ball I'd bet. Hillary wasn't going to let anything trip up her candidacy/coronation this time around. I'm not sure there were any Dems not playing ball though, no candidates felt like they were really that concerned with challenging her, and even Bernie was supposed to be so fringe as to not be a risk.SpreadsheetAg said:
Lures in December 2015? One for each Republican campaign?
Shep/fox just caters to all the libs that don't work and are at home during the day. Get'em hooked during the day and make their heads explode at night...HeardAboutPerio said:
What XM radio News channel can one get a less biased account during the 2 P.M. hour on Fox while Shep is making me want to throw the entire radio out the window? He's unbearable. His admant stances on these issues that there is no debate sounds like CNN at any given hour.
MouthBQ98 said:
That is before any of the primaries. Makes me wonder if they possibly started with the presumption that there was Republican-Russian corrupt dealings and they simply had to find them, and that they wouldn't have to look very hard.
I wondered this too and if Romney could have been under the same type of surveillance. Probably not as Romney is just another RINO and probably a part of Deep State. This goes back as far as at least 2015 and it's highly unlikely that any of the other candidates in the 2016 field were surveilled, which begs the question why not? I think the answer is that Trump was the only "outside" candidate that was identified as having a shot at winning.pedro_martinez said:
Wonder how far back this foes and if other campaigns races / enemies were targeted too.
Halper received a 285K payment in May of 2012 a few months before the electionsstetson said:I wondered this too and if Romney could have been under the same type of surveillance. Probably not as Romney is just another RINO and probably a part of Deep State. This goes back as far as at least 2015 and it's highly unlikely that any of the other candidates in the 2016 field were surveilled, which begs the question why not? I think the answer is that Trump was the only "outside" candidate that was identified as having a shot at winning.pedro_martinez said:
Wonder how far back this foes and if other campaigns races / enemies were targeted too.
Quote:I wondered this too and if Romney could have been under the same type of surveillance. Probably not as Romney is just another RINO and probably a part of Deep State. This goes back as far as at least 2015 and it's highly unlikely that any of the other candidates in the 2016 field were surveilled, which begs the question why not? I think the answer is that Trump was the only "outside" candidate that was identified as having a shot at winning.Quote:
pedro_martinez said:
Wonder how far back this foes and if other campaigns races / enemies were targeted too.
They didn't waste resources on Bernie on an election/primary he could in no way possibly win. The super delegates were bought and paid for in advance. Bernie stayed in it to line his pockets, from the election coffers.Rudebaeger said:
stetson said:Quote:I wondered this too and if Romney could have been under the same type of surveillance. Probably not as Romney is just another RINO and probably a part of Deep State. This goes back as far as at least 2015 and it's highly unlikely that any of the other candidates in the 2016 field were surveilled, which begs the question why not? I think the answer is that Trump was the only "outside" candidate that was identified as having a shot at winning.Quote:
pedro_martinez said:
Wonder how far back this foes and if other campaigns races / enemies were targeted too.
Makes you wonder if the FBI were spying on Bernie(and passing that info on to Hilldawg). We know that she cheated in the Dem. nomination. It seems that knowing Bernie's moves/conversations would have made that even easier.
Agreed. Bernie has been a Socialist for nearly all of his life. Enough said, except even Dems Hillary so much, he started to get traction with voters. That development was quite unexpected to the Hillary campaign and the DNC. They knew the primaries were already rigged but then they had to become very concerned about the General Election if the Bernie Bros couldn't be swayed back to Hillary.Quote:
They didn't waste resources on Bernie on an election/primary he could in no way possibly win. The super delegates were bought and paid for in advance. Bernie stayed in it to line his pockets, from the election coffers.
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...From the motion to seal, we discover Robert Mueller leveraged the July 27th, 2017, charges against George Papadopoulos to make him a cooperating witness for the special counsel. The July 28th, 2017, motion to seal was transparently intended to disguise the arrest of Papapdopoulos and his subsequent role as a "proactive cooperator":
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What is a "Proactive Cooperator"? Let's turn to another legal case where the terminology is clearly defined:
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What this means is that after his arrest July 27th, 2017, and before the arrest was unsealed in October 2017, George Papadopoulos was working on behalf of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team to gain information against the targets of the DOJ investigation, Donald Trump officials.
For approximately two-plus months, August/September 2017, George Papadopoulos would have been targeting contact with former and current Trump campaign officials. The purpose of that targeting would have included an effort by the Mueller Special Counsel to build a "conspiracy" charge against anyone associated with President Trump. The agent running Papadopoulos appears to have been FBI Special Agent Jennifer Zelski Edward....
It does not look like Papadopoulos was able to generate any valuable information while he was working as an informant for the Special Counsel. Apparently there was no forward value on using Papadopoulos any longer, and on May 23rd, 2018, Robert Mueller informed the court he was done with Papadopoulos, prepare to sentence him according to the earlier plea-deal and guidelines of his cooperation....
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...Remember the single-most-consistent professional trait about professional liars -- they lie; often, quite well....
His charging document and plea was nothing but cover, that's why he's never been sentenceddrcrinum said:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/06/04/spy-games-george-papadopoulos-via-sketchy-simona-mangiante-begins-media-tour/Quote:
...From the motion to seal, we discover Robert Mueller leveraged the July 27th, 2017, charges against George Papadopoulos to make him a cooperating witness for the special counsel. The July 28th, 2017, motion to seal was transparently intended to disguise the arrest of Papapdopoulos and his subsequent role as a "proactive cooperator":Quote:
What is a "Proactive Cooperator"? Let's turn to another legal case where the terminology is clearly defined:Quote:
What this means is that after his arrest July 27th, 2017, and before the arrest was unsealed in October 2017, George Papadopoulos was working on behalf of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team to gain information against the targets of the DOJ investigation, Donald Trump officials.
For approximately two-plus months, August/September 2017, George Papadopoulos would have been targeting contact with former and current Trump campaign officials. The purpose of that targeting would have included an effort by the Mueller Special Counsel to build a "conspiracy" charge against anyone associated with President Trump. The agent running Papadopoulos appears to have been FBI Special Agent Jennifer Zelski Edward....
It does not look like Papadopoulos was able to generate any valuable information while he was working as an informant for the Special Counsel. Apparently there was no forward value on using Papadopoulos any longer, and on May 23rd, 2018, Robert Mueller informed the court he was done with Papadopoulos, prepare to sentence him according to the earlier plea-deal and guidelines of his cooperation....
So, another 'spy'. Mueller coerced Papadopoulos into becoming an 'informant', likely wearing a wire and intercepting all of his communications with the Trump Campaign, looking for info to charge people with conspiracy
And regarding the info today about a threat to charge Papadopoulos with being an Israeli agent, TCTH addresses that issue as well:Quote:
...Remember the single-most-consistent professional trait about professional liars -- they lie; often, quite well....
LOL I rushed to this thread as soon as I saw the Reuters headline for this. I know somebody on here will dig up the court transcripts from today pronto.UncleNateFitch said:
Breaking: Mueller's trying to revoke manfort's house arrest and alleging witness tampering.