Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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I have a pile of unanswered questions for H R McMaster, and his role in this as well. I know he carried water for the Russian narrative more than anyone. I'm certain he was a huge leak in the Whitehouse. The swamp was desperate to get Flynn out and get their boy in place. Flynn had a hit list from old scores with Barry's bunch, and they were desperate to get him neutered ASAP before he got dug in and active.
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Once the smear campaign starts against Horowitz it will be the precursor to the most damning OIG report (might be the Hillary investigation one but more likely they'll keep their powder dry until the FISA OIG drops).
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A follow up



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1003621637474824192.html
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RoscoePColtrane said:

A follow up



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1003621637474824192.html
If Strzok didn't know it before, he must be thinking, "Damn, women are vindictive during the breakup..."
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A counter counter-intelligence investigation. That's what we have here. 8-D chess Trump
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RoscoePColtrane said:

A follow up



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1003621637474824192.html
It's still just a speculation, and then speculations on the speculation. No proof. Would be great if true, but...
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Think this is all on OIG, rather than Trump.
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So, am I to believe the upshot here is that DOJ and FBI have been stonewalling the House and Senate to accommodate Horowitz's, Huber's investigations? But that they couldn't come out and just say that?
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aggiehawg said:

So, am I to believe the upshot here is that DOJ and FBI have been stonewalling the House and Senate to accommodate Horowitz's, Huber's investigations? But that they couldn't come out and just say that?
It's not improbable. (i.e. it's not likely, but it's more than unlikely)

Let's play hypotheticals (or POV game): Horowitz wants to remain out of media spotlight until complete. Huber as well. Sessions is the ultimate behind the scenes, and is a willing punching bag of trump to draw the media off sides and give Trump the political capital to remain at arms length from any involvement.

By having the FBI and DOJ deny transparency and deny document handover, this lets Trump bat away at Mueller and Sessions (willingly on his part), all the while keep the OIG investigators (hundreds) busy digging out of the public spotlight. If the docs that are central to the investigation become public too soon, that puts a Metric Gigaton of Political Pressure on Horowitz who is and should be apolitical.

Everything must be on the straight an narrow, and take all the necessary time needed to make sure every i is dotted and t is crossed. Racing to the finish line, will allow for mistakes, and that will allow certain powerful peopl to potentially escape justice.

And think about it from a "providing Trump political cover" standpoint. Trump KNOWS everything already. He gets to make all these wild claims (that will turn out true from certain points of view, but maybe not precise true verbally) and in the end when everything blows over, he gets to CROW CROW CROW about winning, and then enact his revenge on the silent coup practitioners very publicly and very brutally.

/hypothetical
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SpreadsheetAg said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

A follow up



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1003621637474824192.html
If Strzok didn't know it before, he must be thinking, "Damn, women are vindictive during the breakup..."
I still think that was a cover story but I can't recall who first published or stated that fact, does anyone recall?

I have a hard time believing Page wouldn't correct the record if she was cooperating the entire time but there might be a strict gag order in place and they both were told if you make one public comment all immunity deals are off and we prosecute you to the fullest extent.

Another theory, she was secretly pining for Strzok and is more than happy to have the public believe she was having an affair with him and the stricter gag order has been on Peter.

Man this stuff is going to make a great book one day (several books).
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DC leaks like a sieve. If this has been happening under the radar for a year and a half, that would be a miracle.
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aggiehawg said:

So, am I to believe the upshot here is that DOJ and FBI have been stonewalling the House and Senate to accommodate Horowitz's, Huber's investigations? But that they couldn't come out and just say that?
Not buying it given the nature of their redactions. They are slow walking to minimize political/media outrage.
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aggiehawg said:

So, am I to believe the upshot here is that DOJ and FBI have been stonewalling the House and Senate to accommodate Horowitz's, Huber's investigations? But that they couldn't come out and just say that?
To eliminate leaks and destruction of evidense is very possible. I've had my doubts about Rosenstein but the fact that Trump hasn't canned him, gives me pause. That weird meeting in the oval between Trump, Mueller and Rosey also gives me pause, the day before he's appointed. Not buying the Political fallout worry keeping Trump from firing him, I think Trump could give a damn about political fallout. What's congress going to do, stop working with him? Ha! Have they ever really started. What are they going to do, have a bunch of investigations? Oh yeah they do that too. And I'm sure he's worrying about bad press.

Seriously though Dixie I have been really going back and forth with this. The next couple weeks will fill in the rest of the blanks for me and I'll know then.
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AND BY GOSH HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BAKE THE DAMN CAKE>>>> HELL YES!!!!

Supreme Court rules 7-2 in favor of Christian baker, pretty impressive, Sota and Guinz in dissent
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I find it fascinating that neither Pete the Cheat or Lisa Page has said anything publicly. Nothing. No interviews, no released statement to the press, not even lawyers talking. That to me is curious. Now Pete still works for the FBI but Page doesn't.
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backintexas2013 said:

I find it fascinating that neither Pete the Cheat or Lisa Page has said anything publicly. Nothing. No interviews, no released statement to the press, not even lawyers talking. That to me is curious. Now Pete still works for the FBI but Page doesn't.
No Arkancide either.
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Quote:

Seriously though Dixie I have been really going back and forth with this. The next couple weeks will fill in the rest of the blanks for me and I'll know then.
Ditto. See what's in each of the OIG reports and then compare to our "working theories."

I still think the transcripts question in the Flynn case is a tip-off that Flynn was the subject of a FISA warrant. Not that he was picked up in an incidental intercept from a standing warrant with Kislyak.

Kislyak knew that and he was recalled to Moscow at the end of July 2017. Right when Mueller and Horowitz were getting fired up.
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The last picture I saw of Page she looked like she hasn't slept in weeks and looked just awful. I am guessing if she hasn't flipped she is in real trouble.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

AND BY GOSH HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BAKE THE DAMN CAKE>>>> HELL YES!!!!

Supreme Court rules 7-2 in favor of Christian baker, pretty impressive, Sota and Guinz in decent
You made me puke with that typo
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backintexas2013 said:

The last picture I saw of Page she looked like she hasn't slept in weeks and looked just awful. I am guessing if she hasn't flipped she is in real trouble.
As much texting as those two did, when did she ever sleep. I know I missed plenty just reading them, tens of thousands of texts and that's just the ones we've seen.
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akm91 said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

AND BY GOSH HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BAKE THE DAMN CAKE>>>> HELL YES!!!!

Supreme Court rules 7-2 in favor of Christian baker, pretty impressive, Sota and Guinz in decent
You made me puke with that typo
Think about it this way Descent - the act of going down or downward

That's even worse

sorry dissent
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Lol! Not going further down that line of thinking, for everyone's sake

In case I hadn't expressed my gratitude to you, drcrinum, hawg and others for your continued efforts to shine the light on the SC probe, a big THANK YOU is in order.
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akm91 said:

Lol! Not going further down that line of thinking, for everyone's sake

In case I hadn't expressed my gratitude to you, drcrinum, hawg and others for your continued efforts to shine the light on the SC probe, a big THANK YOU is in order.
You went there
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D'oh!
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Andrew McCarthy.
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Jesus H Christ Rudy....
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I doubt she was, otherwise why did she lose her job?
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I don't think we know for sure she was fired. We all assumed she was but the news said she left on her own. Maybe she got out for a reason and wasn't fired.
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backintexas2013 said:

I don't think we know for sure she was fired. We all assumed she was but the news said she left on her own. Maybe she got out for a reason and wasn't fired.
Toxic environment. I can't come up with one good reason why she would want to stay, if she had other options.
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BQ78 said:

I doubt she was, otherwise why did she lose her job?
She resigned.
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backintexas2013 said:

I don't think we know for sure she was fired. We all assumed she was but the news said she left on her own. Maybe she got out for a reason and wasn't fired.
She resigned, her and Jim Baker the same day.
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which is what I was saying a few pages back.

insisting on calling it a "spy" plays right into the media's hands.

Focus on what they were doing and who sent them there.
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Yes but people were saying she was forced out. She resigned like a coach getting ready to get canned was the thinking by a few people.
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BMX Bandit said:

which is what I was saying a few pages back.

insisting on calling it a "spy" plays right into the media's hands.

Focus on what they were doing and who sent them there.
Snitch would be an appropriate synonym.
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backintexas2013 said:

Yes but people were saying she was forced out. She resigned like a coach getting ready to get canned was the thinking by a few people.
If she were forced out, for being uncooperative or whatever, and is part of the resistance, she'd be on the networks more than Avenatti getting huge payouts. I think the insiders know she flipped and that makes her toxic to the left.

She did her part for the IG, is allowed to resign and possibly avoid prison, that's not a bad deal
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