https://finance.yahoo.com/news/former-cia-director-accuses-trump-171136453.html

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Michael Morell, a career intelligence officer who was acting and deputy director of the CIA from 2010 to 2013, expressed concerns that high-level political operatives connected to Donald Trump's campaign are working on behalf of Russian interests.

In a Friday conference call hosted by Hillary Clinton's campaign, Morell railed against Trump for being complacent with hacks that the US intelligence community has pinned on the Russian government.

"The thing I'm deeply concerned about it that the people around Donald Trump, the Paul Manaforts, the Roger Stones, the Carter Pages, may be into this more deeply, maybe have relationships with Russia, financial relationships and they're actually working on behalf of the Russians in getting this material out and spreading this around," Morell said, referencing Trump's former campaign chairman and two current advisers....

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Morell's above 'conference call' with the Hillary's Campaign took place on October 14, 2016.
Below is a link to Morell's email chain with John Podesta on March 11, 2016:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/35262

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...>>>> I hope this note finds you well. A very important Tuesday coming up. >>>> >>>> I'm thinking that you are undoubtedly extremely busy, but I was hoping >>>> to come by and see you for 30 minutes. There are a couple of things that I >>>> would like to put on your radar screen. >>>> >>>> Let me know. >>>> >>>> Have a great weekend. >>>> >>>> Michael Morell

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In retrospect, this meeting between Morell & Podesta in March 2016 might have been the stimulus which crystallized the Trump-Russian scheme -- certainly the plot materialized during the March/April 2016 time frame. There had to be someone in the background who was the mastermind behind the scheme, someone who pulled all the strings...someone in the top rung who knew all the right people and had the right connections between the DNC/HRC/FBI/DOJ/Obama/dirty tricksters...John Podesta would certainly fill the bill.

Note: In the above email..."A very important Tuesday coming up."...undoubtedly refers to Super Tuesday, March 15, 2016 when a host of Presidential Primary Elections were held.

Even at this late date, with all we know now, where were the actual Russian Russians who were cultivating Trump campaign officials?

Is Halper supposed to be the Russian? Is Mifsud? Those are the only two we know had repeated contacts with Page and Papadopoulos.

Even in Mueller's opus, the indictment of Russians and Russian companies, there is no allegation of a connection or nexus with anyone Trump related.

Someone asked the question the other day of if anyone knew when and how Horowitz found the text messages between Strzok/Page and when he told Mueller about them. It took some digging through all these files I have and found the letter Horowitz send to Grassley answering those very questions

So July 27, 2017 is when Mueller and Rosenstein had the Page/Strzok bomb dropped on them. At the same time, Mueller had just raided Manafort's home in the early early morning. Oooops! A few days later comes the secret Rosenstein memo changing/expanding/clarifying pick-a-word Mueller's jurisdiction is completed on August 2, 2017.

Also, I was unaware that the IG had been investigating the 2016 election for that long a period of time and that it wasn't just about Hillary's email investigations.

Wonder how deep this rabbit hole is going to go

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So July 27, 2017 is when Mueller and Rosenstein had the Page/Strzok bomb dropped on them. At the same time, Mueller had just raided Manafort's home in the early early morning. Oooops! A few days later comes the secret Rosenstein memo changing/expanding/clarifying pick-a-word Mueller's jurisdiction is completed on August 2, 2017.

Also, I was unaware that the IG had been investigating the 2016 election for that long a period of time and that it wasn't just about Hillary's email investigations.

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https://amgreatness.com/2018/06/03/carter-page-is-the-biggest-victim-in-the-trump-russia-hoax/

Interesting interview with Carter Page.

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Even at this late date, with all we know now, where were the actual Russian Russians who were cultivating Trump campaign officials?

Is Halper supposed to be the Russian? Is Mifsud? Those are the only two we know had repeated contacts with Page and Papadopoulos.

Even in Mueller's opus, the indictment of Russians and Russian companies, there is no allegation of a connection or nexus with anyone Trump related.

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I've been wondering on this as well as who were the Russian sources for the dossier? I did read a while back about the communications from Russians with Papadopoulos. Was that all through Midsud?

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So July 27, 2017 is when Mueller and Rosenstein had the Page/Strzok bomb dropped on them. At the same time, Mueller had just raided Manafort's home in the early early morning. Oooops! A few days later comes the secret Rosenstein memo changing/expanding/clarifying pick-a-word Mueller's jurisdiction is completed on August 2, 2017.

Also, I was unaware that the IG had been investigating the 2016 election for that long a period of time and that it wasn't just about Hillary's email investigations.

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Another revelation that was lost in the fray is, Mueller's hiring practices appeared highly partisan to say the least. But his actual indictments were anything but. Mueller had been put on notice by Horowitz that he was watching what's going on, right off the bat. Questions have been asked in this thread if Horowitz had the authority to look into what Mueller is doing. not only does Horowitz have the ability to investigate Mueller's group, he actively is, and has been since at least July 14, 2017. Horowitz is good at what he does and very thorough it appears.

I like the way that sounds. And am I correct that referrals don't all have to go through Rosenstein? This is assuming sessions is out to lunch.

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Even in Mueller's opus, the indictment of Russians and Russian companies, there is no allegation of a connection or nexus with anyone Trump related.

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I've been wondering on this as well as who were the Russian sources for the dossier? I did read a while back about the communications from Russians with Papadopoulos. Was that all through Midsud?

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Read my sentence again. Mueller has done his best to identify the so-called bad actors who actually undertook concrete actions to meddle by way of social media. No Trump connection.

The hacking of the DNC, no Trump connection.

The only allegations of possible nefarious contacts with actual Russians are in the Steele dossier and involve Cohen's disputed trip to Prague and Carter Page's trip to Moscow. IIRC, not even Papadop was named in the Steele dossier.

What was happening with Papadop was a rope-a-dope to use him to show an attempt by the Trump campaign to agree to a meeting with Putin. There is little evidence that Putin himself ever said he wanted to meet with Trump during the campaign, not that I have seen. But that would be beside the point. Just the allegation that the Trump campaign was actively trying to schedule such a meeting was the goal.

Perception is reality. Allegation is fact. That's the game they're playing here. It's up to Trump alone, it would appear thanks to the weak Republican party, to counter that in the minds of the people. He seems to be doing so, bits at a time, but can he swing enough folks around?

Will the IG report help him do that?

Here's a really good thing to pay attention to. The reaction of the Democrats to the DOJ releasing the Text messages to the media. No concern whatsoever about the fact that two People in the DOJ were carrying on like this and the fact that they were likely breaking the law, they were just concerned that they were exposed and it wasn't a good look for the left.

Jerry Nadler fired off this letter to the DOJ Spokesperson pissed off and wanted to know who authorized this release. and Sarah Flores responded on Twitter

But Horowitz wasn't satisfied with that response and gave his take on it as well

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Answer #3 .... but unfortunately, removal is the only penalty authorized for violation of the Hatch Act

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1003295859860070401.html


Rex is back. Interesting thread. He postulates:
1) Page flipped during the first quarter of 2017, before Mueller became SC.
2) Horowitz was secretly monitoring Mueller from when he was appointed, May 17, 2017, until July 27, 2017 when Horowitz informed him about the Strzok-Page text messages. Horowitz acquired a 'gold mine' of info on Mueller and how he operated, and for this reason, Mueller's entire investigation was reigned in...and has become essentially worthless.

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Here's a really good thing to pay attention to. The reaction of the Democrats to the DOJ releasing the Text messages to the media. No concern whatsoever about the fact that two People in the DOJ were carrying on like this and the fact that they were likely breaking the law, they were just concerned that they were exposed and it wasn't a good look for the left.

Jerry Nadler fired off this letter to the DOJ Spokesperson pissed off and wanted to know who authorized this release. and Sarah Flores responded on Twitter

But Horowitz wasn't satisfied with that response and gave his take on it as well

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So they're all pissy that those texts got released, and yet when this latest "confidential" memo gets printed by the NYT, that's OK?

From the E.D. Va. Manafort case --

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ORDERED that the hearing currently scheduled for June 8, 2018 has been rescheduled to Friday, June 29, 2018 at 9:00 a.m. re 41 Motion to Dismiss, 43 Motion for Hearing, 45 Motion to Suppress, and 47 Motion to Suppress as to Paul J. Manafort, Jr. Motion Hearing reset for 6/29/2018 at 09:00 AM in Alexandria Courtroom 900 before District Judge T. S. Ellis III. Signed by District Judge T. S. Ellis, III on 6/1/2018. (lcre, ) (Entered: 06/01/2018)

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So no more fun from Judge Ellis until the end of June. Oh well.

Another note: Adam Jed just filed a notice of appearance for team Mueller. He's an appellate lawyer. I think they know where things are headed in the district court and are getting ahead of the game when they need to head to the Obama-appointee laden 4th circuit.

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So no more fun from Judge Ellis until the end of June. Oh well.

Another note: Adam Jed just filed a notice of appearance for team Mueller. He's an appellate lawyer. I think they know where things are headed in the district court and are getting ahead of the game when they need to head to the Obama-appointee laden 4th circuit.

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Wait wasn't that case scheduled for trial in mid July? Or is that the DC one?

And yes, I would expect SCOTUS will cut their recess short and reconvene for an emergency hearing this summer.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1003336476061585408.html

The latest on the 'Circle of Filth'.

In the thread I just linked concerning the latest revelations on the 'Circle of Filth', there are multiple segments on Michael Morell, the former CIA chap I referenced earlier today regarding an email to John Podesta. One article is very interesting:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-ally-says-smoke-no-fire-no-russia-trump-collusion-n734176

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Former Acting CIA Director Michael Morell, who endorsed Hillary Clinton and called Donald Trump a dupe of Russia, cast doubt Wednesday night on allegations that members of the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.

Morell, who was in line to become CIA director if Clinton won, said he had seen no evidence that Trump associates cooperated with Russians. He also raised questions about the dossier written by a former British intelligence officer, which alleged a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia....

Morell said he had learned that the former officer, Christopher Steele, paid his key Russian sources, and interviewed them through intermediaries....

He continued: "I had two questions when I first read it. One was, How did Chris talk to these sources? I have subsequently learned that he used intermediaries.

"And then I asked myself, why did these guys provide this information, what was their motivation? And I subsequently learned that he paid them. That the intermediaries paid the sources and the intermediaries got the money from Chris. And that kind of worries me a little bit because if you're paying somebody, particularly former FSB officers, they are going to tell you truth and innuendo and rumor, and they're going to call you up and say, 'hey, let's have another meeting, I have more information for you,' because they want to get paid some more.

"I think you've got to take all that into consideration when you consider the dossier."...

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So: DNC pays Fusion GPS, who pays Steele, who pays intermediaries, who pay former Russian FSB officers.
Finally, we found Russians...who were paid courtesy of the DNC. Who would've thought?

Lately, Trump and Giuliani have become more and more brazen in their comments about the spying and Mueller's investigation etc. It appears obvious to me that Trump & Giuliani know pretty much everything that is going to be released, phase by phase, by Michael Horowitz and how devastating it's going to be for the Obama Administration, Mueller, the Democratic Party, MSM and all the connected Swamp Creatures Etc. It's going to be a lot of fun to watch !

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Lately, Trump and Giuliani have become more and more brazen in their comments about the spying and Mueller's investigation etc. It appears obvious to me that Trump & Giuliani know pretty much everything that is going to be released, phase by phase, by Michael Horowitz and how devastating it's going to be for the Obama Administration, Mueller, the Democratic Party, MSM and all the connected Swamp Creatures Etc. It's going to be a lot of fun to watch !

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All true, and 50% of the country will ignore it.

Mueller....cause he's scared about what's in the OIG Report.

They won't ignore it if people go to jail.

The deep state is in full damage control mode.

There is/are about 35% of the country that are die hard leftists that will ignore it. A majority of the country is going to be upset. The leftists have overplayed a bad hand.

Here's the finish up of the all day thread posted yesterday

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/999059266022592512.html