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Professor Calibresi has amended his legal opinion (not a repudiation, an amplification) on why Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional from the get the go. (As I have long harped on there is a principal/agent issue.)

https://www.scribd.com/document/380166111/Opinion-on-the-Constitutionality-of-Robert-Mueller#from_embed

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Thanks, good read. But is this just another legal opinion ... or a legit legal argument with legs?

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• Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.
• Never go outside the expertise of your people.
• Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy.
• Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
• Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.
• A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
• A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
• Keep the pressure on.
• The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.
• The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.
• If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside
• The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
• Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

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Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' cuts both ways

• A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

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There's probaby a "teachable moment" here, but I honestly don't know if our fellow Republicans have grasped the idea. Our fellow never-Trumpers are in a postion that pride doesn't seem to allow them out of the corner. I don't believe Trump's unorthdox methods are something that can't be learned at this late date in so many of the careers of go-along, get-along, Republicans.

In essence, Trump has behaved like the Right's Alinsky, but he seems to have always been like that. I'm not sure IF there's anyone else in the party like that, and further more, that CAN BE LIKE THAT. I assume it's a combination of several things, from how he was raised, to his character, and learned business tactics.

I'm not saying I want a party full of Trump's, but obviously it's necessary to fight fire with fire, especially today. It's taken me a long time to come around to his methods, but they appear to be extremely effective, so far.

He very much is the right person, for a country in desperate need. I've always believed this country had leaders arise during the times we needed them the most, and had become cynical we had grown so far away from issues of faith, that we might be out of favor.

There's a long way to go, with many American enemies to challenge and debate but it's been a hell of a start!

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"The cop came to [Awan's defense attorney] Chris Gowen's office with a stack of papers Then he came back and said, 'I thought you guys were the other party.' He was very, very angry. But Gowen made copies," the source, who's familiar with The Awans, told TheDCNF.

Gowen a former aide to failed Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said he learned of the story through someone on Capitol Hill. "I have been told by my source on the Hill," he said.
If true, this would imply congressional staff, or possibly even members, are feeding information to the attorney of a hacking suspect.

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Farrakhan is one disgusting human being.

Hopefully some more reasonable members of the black community will start to open their eyes, because having Farrakhan on "our side" is a net loss IMO.

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Isn't it a fact that you're a scumbag?"

Our contretemps over the nomenclature of government informants has me unable to shake this arresting moment from my memory. In Manhattan, about 30 years ago, I was among the spectators basking in the majesty of Foley Square's federal courthouse when we were suddenly jarred by this, shall we say, rhetorical question. The sniper was a mob lawyer in a big RICO case; the target was the prosecution's main witness, the informant.

Until this week, I'd always thought the most noteworthy thing about this obnoxious bit of theater was the reaction of the judge, a very fine, very wry trial lawyer in his own right.

The prosecutors, of course, screamed, "Objection!"

The judge calmly shrugged his shoulders and ruled: "He can answer if he knows."

Did he know? I don't remember. I was laughing too hard to hear any response.

The court's deadpan was not just hilarious. In its way, it was trenchant.

The judge was not insouciant. He was a realist. The witness had done what covert informants do: He pretended to be someone he wasn't, he wheedled his way into the trust in some instances, into the affections of people suspected of wrongdoing. And then he betrayed them. But that's the job: to pry away secrets get the bad actors to admit what they did, how they did it, and with whom they did it, until the agents and prosecutors decide there is enough evidence to convict the lot of them.

The judge understood that. For all the melodrama, whether the informant was a hero or a villain hinged on how one felt not about him but about the worthiness of the investigation.

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But there is another side of the story.

By and large, "confidential informants" do not emerge from the womb with a passion to protect the United States. Quite often, they become informants because they've gotten themselves jammed up with the police. Some are sociopaths: shrewd enough to know that the only way out of either a long prison term or a short life expectancy is to become the government's eyes and ears; self-aware enough to know that, in undercover work, bad character, mendacity, and survival instincts are tools of the trade. Not many Mother Teresas can infiltrate hostile foreign powers, drug cartels, and organized-crime networks.

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In the end, it is not about who the spies are. It is about why they were spying. In our democratic republic, there is an important norm against an incumbent administration's use of government's enormous intelligence-gathering capabilities to if we may borrow a phrase interfere in an election. To justify disregarding that norm would require strong evidence of egregious wrongdoing. Enough bobbing and weaving, and enough dueling tweets. Let's see the evidence.

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Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals' cuts both ways

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Russia, Russia, Russia

It took me awhile to get through that book. He's such a vile and disgusting human being, I had to take some breaks.

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Dam's Breaking: FBI Agent With Inside Knowledge Flips on Comey, Wants to Testify

...To add to the growing scandal, Jack Posobiec of One America News reported Wednesday that one of the FBI agents who was in the room when Flynn was interrogated by the bureau believes the disgraced national security adviser was unfairly railroaded and Comey was behind it.

"FBI Agent Joe Pientka who interviewed General Flynn plans to testify against Comey and McCabe, adds 'It was all Comey,'" Posobiec posted on Twitter.

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Posobiec also hinted that the FBI special agent who is ready to flip on Comey was an eyewitness to the actual interview of Flynn, which may have varied drastically from what went into the bureau's official reports.

There is also evidence that agents, including Pientka, believed Flynn was being entirely honest with them during the investigation, and that he did not try to deceive them at all.

"Pientka knows what was said in the room, before the 302 reports were written by Strzok," the journalist explained....

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NEW YORK Email transcripts and other information disclosed in testimony released by the Senate Judiciary Committee reveals a significant relationship between Russian-born Washington lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshi and the controversial Fusion GPS firm that produced the infamous, largely discredited anti-Trump dossier.
Akhmetshi was one of the participants at the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with President Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign officials.

The meeting has been the subject of much news media coverage related to unsubstantiated and collapsing claims of collusion with Russia. All meeting participants generally agree the confab focused largely on the Magnitsky Act, which sanctions Russian officials accused of involvement in the death of a Russian tax accountant, as well as talk about a Russian tax evasion scheme and alleged connections to the Democratic National Committee.

Trump Jr. previously explained that he took the meeting thinking it was about "opposition research" on Hillary Clinton and was disappointed that it wasn't.

The Russia collusion conspiracy was sparked by the dossier produced by Fusion GPS, which was paid for its anti-Trump work by Trump's primary political opponents, namely Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) via the Perkins Coie law firm.

Akhmetshi's November 14, 2017 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, released last week and reviewed in full by this reporter, contained numerous sections that detail his past relationship with Fusion GPS and the company's co-founder, Glenn Simpson. Some of that relationship spanned the period just prior to the meeting with Trump Jr.

In one instance, Akhmetshi was asked about an email obtained by the Senate committee in which he described Fusion's Simpson as a "colleague."

The email related to the Russian-linked Prevezon Holdings Ltd., a firm that had settled a case in the U.S. involving the purchase of real estate with allegedly laundered money, accusations that centered around the Magnitsky Act.

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Sorry if already discussed but I thought you all might like this:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/25/testimony-reveals-close-ties-between-russian-lobbyist-at-trump-jr-meeting-and-fusion-gps/

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NEW YORK Email transcripts and other information disclosed in testimony released by the Senate Judiciary Committee reveals a significant relationship between Russian-born Washington lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshi and the controversial Fusion GPS firm that produced the infamous, largely discredited anti-Trump dossier.
Akhmetshi was one of the participants at the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower with President Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign officials.

The meeting has been the subject of much news media coverage related to unsubstantiated and collapsing claims of collusion with Russia. All meeting participants generally agree the confab focused largely on the Magnitsky Act, which sanctions Russian officials accused of involvement in the death of a Russian tax accountant, as well as talk about a Russian tax evasion scheme and alleged connections to the Democratic National Committee.

Trump Jr. previously explained that he took the meeting thinking it was about "opposition research" on Hillary Clinton and was disappointed that it wasn't.

The Russia collusion conspiracy was sparked by the dossier produced by Fusion GPS, which was paid for its anti-Trump work by Trump's primary political opponents, namely Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) via the Perkins Coie law firm.

Akhmetshi's November 14, 2017 testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, released last week and reviewed in full by this reporter, contained numerous sections that detail his past relationship with Fusion GPS and the company's co-founder, Glenn Simpson. Some of that relationship spanned the period just prior to the meeting with Trump Jr.

In one instance, Akhmetshi was asked about an email obtained by the Senate committee in which he described Fusion's Simpson as a "colleague."

The email related to the Russian-linked Prevezon Holdings Ltd., a firm that had settled a case in the U.S. involving the purchase of real estate with allegedly laundered money, accusations that centered around the Magnitsky Act.

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This all sounds like Obama was trying to entrap the Trump campaign.

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