Any time served would send shock waves through the system.

People named in IG report already know it now, right? Hasn't Comey been quiet this past week?

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Any time served would send shock waves through the system.

People named in IG report already know it now, right? Hasn't Comey been quiet this past week?

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If they are still in the government, yes. If they are no longer in government, then no.

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HRC and Obama will never be jailed?

We have not even scratched the surface of the investigations into the Clinton Foundation, Hillarys missing emails, Uranium One, the AWAN brothers and the Iranian deal that saw pallets of cash delivered to many places.

All of this will come out once the clean up work and the bad actors have been removed from the FBI, CIA and DOJ.

Your focus is too narrow. There are much bigger things coming down that will blow all of this up.

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The first Black President is not going to jail, unless he steps out in the street on camera and starts killing people live on TV

A former first lady isn't going either, short of the same thing. even a probated sentence is far fetched. short of the same scenario as I listed for Barry.

That's reality

Hey if I'm wrong it's a WIN WIN I'm not going to be disappointed

And that is seriously disappointing, if not infuriating.

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Professor Calibresi has amended his legal opinion (not a repudiation, an amplification) on why Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional from the get the go. (As I have long harped on there is a principal/agent issue.)


https://www.scribd.com/document/380166111/Opinion-on-the-Constitutionality-of-Robert-Mueller#from_embed

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The appointment is not unconstitutional you can drink the fruit juice from that tree. The classified memo directing Mueller's scope of power is another tree and is just bad bad mismanagement and constitutional UNLESS Mueller takes a bite of that apple. Ignorant or inept behavior (a convenient excuse for deception) creating the classified memo does not render the entire Mueller investigation unconstitutional. Mueller took a bite of that apple and also ate a bunch of poison berries from that classified memo tree and will live, a judge however will kill and burn the work from the tree including the poisonous berries.

Mueller will go back to that appointment tree and resume lustful dreaming about the day of gluttonous fruit juice drinking that tree will give. That day that will never come

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He has not behaved like an Assistant U.S. Attorney who is an inferior officer ....appointment is therefore unconstitutional

The Constitution itself assigns the veto power to the President and the principal officer power to Rosenstein, and it is unconstitutional for either of them to give their constitutional powers to some civilian third party.

The Mueller investigation is unconstitutional. This means the indictments he brought are null and void; the subpoenas he has issued are null and void; the wiretaps he has engaged in were and are unconstitutional; and his referral of information to the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York is unconstitutional because any information he obtained is the fruit of a poisonous tree.

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I'm in the boat that I highly doubt we'll see Obama or Hillary jailed, but it is true there is a lot left on Hillary to be investigated.

I for one will gladly take the complete destruction of their legacies though. A world where Michelle Obama, Chelsea Clinton, Obamas kids, etc are completely disqualified from ever being able to even sniff a presidential or elected office run is a world I wanna be in. Not to mention the complete destruction of the figure heads of the progressive liberal movement that has eroded this country since the early 2000s.

I'd gladly give up jail for both knowing that the whole world knows the destruction their actions caused, the absolute failures of policy they oversaw and the damage they did while they were in leadership of this country so that no one like them can be elected for the foreseeable future. Essentially it would be a huge victory over liberalism/progressivism/socialism for conservatives.

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HRC and Obama will never be jailed?

We have not even scratched the surface of the investigations into the Clinton Foundation, Hillarys missing emails, Uranium One, the AWAN brothers and the Iranian deal that saw pallets of cash delivered to many places.

All of this will come out once the clean up work and the bad actors have been removed from the FBI, CIA and DOJ.

Your focus is too narrow. There are much bigger things coming down that will blow all of this up.

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The first Black President is not going to jail, unless he steps out in the street on camera and starts killing people live on TV

A former first lady isn't going either, short of the same thing. even a probated sentence is far fetched. short of the same scenario as I listed for Barry.

That's reality

Hey if I'm wrong it's a WIN WIN I'm not going to be disappointed

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Trump has a plan, You of all people should not indulge with Trump predictions. FYI: Franchise players win the super bowl - not a prediction, just a fact man.

Right now the political reality is that it is unknown who is untouchable as far as going to jail.

From a political perspective it primarily depends on how the democrats do in the 2018 midterms. If they gain control of the house, it will be difficult to get convictions of anyone. If the Republicans should whip the democrats, there will be some serious soul searching on the democrats side. They will probably throw overboard anyone and everyone. Obama would be the safest. Hilary would be toast. They have to distance themselves from her. She and Bill have nothing to offer if they get defeated. Hilary is despised by everyone. Literally.

Then, Trump is not a politician. He will destroy his enemies at the time and place of his choosing.

Unless the OIG writes an exoneration and the dems take back the house and senate anyone who was part of the scheme to take down the POTUS should not be making any long term plans. Trust me, there are Federal Judges, FBI Agents, and Federal Attorneys who will take their oath seriously.

Nick Foles says hello

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Nick Foles says hello

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Don't go technical on me.

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Clear now, but this Gowdy endorsement provided some cover fog for Comey's actual character

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It is odd to me because Gowdy has that prosecutor's sixth sense when someone is lying to him, yet he could never detect deception from Comey, while his fellow committee member (and chairman at the time) Chaffetz, about fell out of his chair as his jaw dropped to the dais at Comey's nonchalant statements.

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Check out those 'Forensic Files' episodes with Gowdy's sixth sense on full display. A witness had these detectives believing they got the guy, had a suspect dead to rights and next scene Gowdy saying something like "just hold on here, do not believe, plus what matters, no proof to what that witness is saying" ...and he right.

Probably never know what that tool was that snake Comey used on Gowdy. Theory that tool was disturbing enough to make Gowdy just check out.

Yes. I agree " they" got to Gowdy. And Ryan. And McConnel. And Cruz. Among others.

Look at what they did to Cheryl Atkinson.

They got rid of several on Fox.

Did Ellis just make a new statement blasting the Mueller team?

If you're listening to Hannitu that's a replay.

Nothing new on the docket in the E.D. Va. case. Next hearing is set for 6/8 (I believe).

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If you're listening to Hannitu that's a replay.

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Yeah I was.

https://www.themarketswork.com/2018/05/25/why-is-george-papadopoulos-missing-from-the-steele-dossier

Another good read from Jeff Carlson, detailed with timelines and references -- not appropriate for excerpts. He concludes that Papadopoulos was intentionally omitted from the dossier as well as the formal US Intel Report requested by Obama for a reason: the schemers attempted twice circa June 2016 to obtain FISA warrants on Papadopoulos and failed, so they had to make certain not to have his name surface again before the FISA Court (three strikes and you're out). Instead they used Papadopoulos to initiate the counterintel investigation, and then they went after Page using the dossier.

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I agree with Dixie McCabe is likely the fall guy and he may have changed his mind. I still think Priestap is going to be the real star witness. Comey is even money for wearing orange.

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McCabe has gone to ground since April. Either he's hunkered down awaiting indictment or he's cooperating.

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McCabe flipping and cooperating actually has seemed like a good possibility to me.
He is a young 50'ish brown noser that failed up the system to the very top. He looks like he tries to wear that tough serious hard-ass persona but underneath he's really a weak-assed schmuck. He's really not all that smart compared to the true schemers. Oh, he's crooked all-right and has a weak moral code that has brought him serious trouble but he's a dupe.

Good read


How The Code Name 'Crossfire Hurricane' Undermines The FBI's Russia Story

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/25/code-name-crossfire-hurricane-evidence-fbis-russia-cover-story/#.Wwh4sic0fto.twitter

The deeper you dig on Halper the more payments you find to him

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Looking for another scalp based on a non-election related issue.

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I agree with Dixie McCabe is likely the fall guy and he may have changed his mind. I still think Priestap is going to be the real star witness. Comey is even money for wearing orange.

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McCabe has gone to ground since April. Either he's hunkered down awaiting indictment or he's cooperating.

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McCabe flipping and cooperating actually has seemed like a good possibility to me.
He is a young 50'ish brown noser that failed up the system to the very top. He looks like he tries to wear that tough serious hard-ass persona but underneath he's really a weak-assed schmuck. He's really not all that smart compared to the true schemers. Oh, he's crooked all-right and has a weak moral code that has brought him serious trouble but he's a dupe.

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Wasn't there a DOJ release a few weeks back about them not charging an unnamed fbi employee who admitted to a host of felonies? Could that be McCabe?

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Special counsel Robert Mueller is reportedly investigating Roger Stone's finances as part of the probe into alleged collusion between Trump campaign associates and Russia.

CNN reported Thursday that investigators have asked associates of Stone, an informal adviser to Trump's 2016 campaign, about his finances, including Stone's tax returns.

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Mueller is playing a very dangerous game here with Stone. He's the kind of guy who would think nothing of dropping a couple of mil to sue the crap out of Mueller.

And if Mueller's jurisdiction is found to be lacking? Meaning he was not operating in good faith and under color of law? YOWZA!

Reason #5,397 of why it is never a good idea to give prosecutorial authority for a counter-intel investigation. Violating people's civil rights is almost a given. It will happen.

Well this sucks.

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HRC and Obama will never be jailed?

We have not even scratched the surface of the investigations into the Clinton Foundation, Hillarys missing emails, Uranium One, the AWAN brothers and the Iranian deal that saw pallets of cash delivered to many places.

All of this will come out once the clean up work and the bad actors have been removed from the FBI, CIA and DOJ.

Your focus is too narrow. There are much bigger things coming down that will blow all of this up.

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The first Black President is not going to jail, unless he steps out in the street on camera and starts killing people live on TV

A former first lady isn't going either, short of the same thing. even a probated sentence is far fetched. short of the same scenario as I listed for Barry.

That's reality


Hey if I'm wrong it's a WIN WIN I'm not going to be disappointed

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THIS. The first black president will never be jailed. Neither will Hillary. Do not set yourself up to be disappointed. They belong to the political class and do not live by the same rules. I hope I'm wrong.

I thought this would interest you. If you look close, it says that HRC incurred a legal debt to Skadden Arps for between $1-5 million in 1998, but I have a query in about what year this paperwork is from (presumably after 2000). If you remember, van der Zwaan worked for Skadden, as did Greg Craig, Obama's former WH counsel -- handled the Ukraine monkey business involving Manafort that Mueller is investigating. Oh, and by the way, Bill Clinton was impeached on December 19, 1998. The debt immediately above Skadden is Williams & Connolly, the outfit Craig worked for when he defended Clinton in 1998. What role did Skadden play in 1998 during the impeachment? Hmmm....

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https://apnews.com/02d20a00f6a240e7bef6a268e28828d0/Giuliani:-Briefing-may-prompt-calls-to-end-Russia-probe

aggiehawg said:

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Professor Calibresi has amended his legal opinion (not a repudiation, an amplification) on why Mueller's appointment was unconstitutional from the get the go. (As I have long harped on there is a principal/agent issue.)

https://www.scribd.com/document/380166111/Opinion-on-the-Constitutionality-of-Robert-Mueller#from_embed

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Thanks, good read. But is this just another legal opinion ... or a legit legal argument with legs?