Collusion with the Brits is still possibly a conspiracy with foreign agents, but it wouldn't be a Trump conspiracy. It would be holdover members of the previous administration.

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When you have some free time, you ought to read the transcript of Simpson's testimony before the HPSIC. Late in his testimony he goes full blown conspiracy theorist, extrapolating on all sorts of nefarious plots from fantasy land. Seemed delusional at points and made me question whether or not he is one of those intelligent paranoid schizophrenics. I wouldn't believe anything he said.

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Went back and read the whole thing this morning. And yes, he's a self-admitted obsessive about Russian oligarchs and post-Soviet Russia. Like Joe McCarthy, he sees a Russian oligarch with nefarious intent behind every tree.

One thing I did take note of was that he testified that he "met" Bruce Ohr after the election and was referred to him by Chris Steele. No mention that Ohr's wife was working for him. Seemed a weird thing to lie about.

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Collusion with the Brits is still possibly a conspiracy with foreign agents, but it wouldn't be a Trump conspiracy. It would be holdover members of the previous administration.

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And is the definition of treason 18 U.S. Code 2385, 18 U.S. Code 2381

I think it's funny that the typeface and length of the redactions and context let you pretty easily infer what the likely or almost certain redaction was in the case of individual words or short phrases. Only numerals and entire sentences and paragraphs are really challenging.

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Collusion with the Brits is still possibly a conspiracy with foreign agents, but it wouldn't be a Trump conspiracy. It would be holdover members of the previous administration.

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And is the definition of treason 18 U.S. Code 2385, 18 U.S. Code 2381

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People really need to be charged with treason in all of this. It's the only way lessons will actually be learned.

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When you have some free time, you ought to read the transcript of Simpson's testimony before the HPSIC. Late in his testimony he goes full blown conspiracy theorist, extrapolating on all sorts of nefarious plots from fantasy land. Seemed delusional at points and made me question whether or not he is one of those intelligent paranoid schizophrenics. I wouldn't believe anything he said.

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Went back and read the whole thing this morning. And yes, he's a self-admitted obsessive about Russian oligarchs and post-Soviet Russia. Like Joe McCarthy, he sees a Russian oligarch with nefarious intent behind every tree.

One thing I did take note of was that he testified that he "met" Bruce Ohr after the election and was referred to him by Chris Steele. No mention that Ohr's wife was working for him. Seemed a weird thing to lie about.

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Ever read Nellie Ohr's PhD Thesis? She's a piece of work

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In murdering untold millions, Joseph Stalin may have engaged in some "excesses" which, in her words, "sometimes represented desperate measures taken by a government that had little real control over the country."

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Ya think?

JW has a lawsuit pending on both their records with the DOJ

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/11/the-insurance-policy-the-ec-the-2016-fbi-counterintel-operation-and-the-mysterious-informant-who-originated-brennans-ec/


Long MUST READ read by the TCTH. Makes a detailed referenced case for the special person of interest to be Stefan Halper.
Also interesting in that he categorizes Papadopoulos & Page as 'tools' who were used by the schemers. If fact he hints that both were 'useful idiots'.

Pretty much sums up my suspicions.

It appears to me that Mueller is being "allowed" to continue. Why? He and his motley crew of Hilary and Obama supporters are probably being literally given the rope to hang themselves. I suppose there is treason and then there is conspiracy to commit treason. If there is no evidence of collusion, and Mueller is still exploring ways to take down Trump, then why?

Could Mueller and Rosenstein not see that they might be part of a treasonous plot? The problem with a coverup is that you can never cover everything up and no one wants to be the first to walk to the gallows. Greed and arrogance can produce some disastrous results.

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Could Mueller and Rosenstein not see that they might be part of a treasonous plot? The problem with a coverup is that you can never cover everything up and no one wants to be the first to walk to the gallows. Greed and arrogance can produce some disastrous results.

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Perhaps they know that they're marionettes and the reason the exercise is still ongoing is because we want a very clear picture of who, exactly, is really pulling the strings. Just a guess. That would mean that Mueller & Rosenstein aren't really white hats or black hats, they're just useful patsies doing what they believe to be their job/duty.

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Long MUST READ read by the TCTH. Makes a detailed referenced case for the special person of interest to be Stefan Halper.

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What bugs me about this agent being Stefan Halper is that (a) he's 73 and thus no longer a field agent;(b) his identity and past are widely known and public knowledge; (c) meaning if he was in any real danger, pull him in from the cold; and finally (d) if the Russians wanted him dead he'd be six feet under already.

Stinks just like the Valerie Plame crap.

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Five works just as well as four, and there is plenty of room for a fifth name when you get rid of "and his partner".

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Could Mueller and Rosenstein not see that they might be part of a treasonous plot? The problem with a coverup is that you can never cover everything up and no one wants to be the first to walk to the gallows. Greed and arrogance can produce some disastrous results.

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Perhaps they know that they're marionettes and the reason the exercise is still ongoing is because we want a very clear picture of who, exactly, is really pulling the strings. Just a guess. That would mean that Mueller & Rosenstein aren't really white hats or black hats, they're just useful patsies doing what they believe to be their job/duty.

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Understand, but their job is to find truth and apply it to justice. The truth appears there obviously was no collusion. True justice requires the innocent be protected. Rosenstein and Mueller appear to have no desire for either.

Justice is a two edged sword. It requires the guilty be punished and equally the innocent be protected. Something is very, very wrong with these two gentlemen.

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Long MUST READ read by the TCTH. Makes a detailed referenced case for the special person of interest to be Stefan Halper.

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What bugs me about this agent being Stefan Halper is that (a) he's 73 and thus no longer a field agent;(b) his identity and past are widely known and public knowledge; (c) meaning if he was in any real danger, pull him in from the cold; and finally (d) if the Russians wanted him dead he'd be six feet under already.

Stinks just like the Valerie Plame crap.

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Yes the reason given for the redaction is ridiculous, it's just another one of those embarrassing covers or covering a weakness in the case, puts questions of actual cause in place, especially regarding surveillance.

This guy is no clandestine sleuth. Make no mistake he's not just a "connected" guy. He's caporegime.

SDNY doing a little clean up work for Schneiderman?

Thinking back on Dianne Feinstein releasing that Simpson transcript to the public, was really blown off by most, but from a legal standpoint you have to say to yourself, what an absolute bone head thing to do. In her haste to try and throw Trump in a bad light, she exposed much more of the guts of this sham the left is trying to pull on the public. It's a wonder she hasn't be Scalia'd

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Just the opposite. An attorney in private practice who discussed his client's legal issues with Michael Cohen, in his capacity as a lawyer in consultation is requesting the Court to protect his clients' confidentiality.

Coincidentally, does this timeline corroborate Trump's old tweet about Schneiderman being the next to go down after Spitzer and Weiner?

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Just the opposite. An attorney in private practice who discussed his client's legal issues with Michael Cohen, in his capacity as a lawyer in consultation is requesting the Court to protect his clients' confidentiality.

Coincidentally, does this timeline corroborate Trump's old tweet about Schneiderman being the next to go down after Spitzer and Weiner?

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Coincidentally, does this timeline corroborate Trump's old tweet about Schneiderman being the next to go down after Spitzer and Weiner?

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Would this mean that Cohen talked to Trump about this when it happened a few years back? Would that be illegal (or probably just unethical) of Cohen?

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Just the opposite. An attorney in private practice who discussed his client's legal issues with Michael Cohen, in his capacity as a lawyer in consultation is requesting the Court to protect his clients' confidentiality.

Coincidentally, does this timeline corroborate Trump's old tweet about Schneiderman being the next to go down after Spitzer and Weiner?

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Damn you are quick. Yes, it fits perfectly with the 2013 tweet. Why would the women's lawyer consult Cohen though? Weird.

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Thinking back on Dianne Feinstein releasing that Simpson transcript to the public, was really blown off by most, but from a legal standpoint you have to say to yourself, what an absolute bone head thing to do. In her haste to try and throw Trump in a bad light, she exposed much more of the guts of this sham the left is trying to pull on the public. It's a wonder she hasn't be Scalia'd

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Simpson spent a lot of time talking about Michael Cohen in that interview. Insisted that everything about Cohen in the dossier was true and Cohen hadn't produced sufficient evidence (in his opinion) of his whereabouts during the time in question. Even dragged Cohen's daughter's travel into it. How did Simpson get that info?

Oh and Rule #1.



Kind of looks like the girl ldelreigo posed as?

Simpson was probably stalking the daughter. She is smoking hot.

She looks like the Friday Night Lights TV show girl.

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Simpson was probably stalking the daughter. She is smoking hot.

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Samantha Blake Cohen

I just googled her. Wow.

Yep. That picture Hawg posted but that isn't cropped is nice.

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Coincidentally, does this timeline corroborate Trump's old tweet about Schneiderman being the next to go down after Spitzer and Weiner?

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Would this mean that Cohen talked to Trump about this when it happened a few years back? Would that be illegal (or probably just unethical) of Cohen?

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No. Someone else talked to Trump and then he had Michael Cohen call the lawyer, Gleason, to consult on the case.

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Here's the preceding article to the above one by Jeff Carlson -- this chap is a good investigative reporter -- provides more info about Hakluyt, Dearlove, Halper & Co.

https://www.themarketswork.com/2018/05/09/dearlove-connections-uk-intel-firm-hakluyt-alexander-downer-stefan-halper-papadopoulos/

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/11/the-insurance-policy-the-ec-the-2016-fbi-counterintel-operation-and-the-mysterious-informant-who-originated-brennans-ec/


Long MUST READ read by the TCTH. Makes a detailed referenced case for the special person of interest to be Stefan Halper.
Also interesting in that he categorizes Papadopoulos & Page as 'tools' who were used by the schemers. If fact he hints that both were 'useful idiots'.

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So Halper's job was to dirty up Page and Pappi to create an appearance of Russian collusion/meddling connected to Trump.

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Some people have called Page and/or Papadopoulos "moles", but that's really not what it appears they were. The better description is "tools". Once Stefan Halper dirtied them up, they gave the appearance of being involved in a vast Russian conspiracy.

It was the appearance that mattered in order to generate the foundation for: the counterintelligence operation; and the subsequent FISA surveillance warrant; and the Vast Russian Conspiracy narrative; and ultimately the post-election Special Counsel investigation. In total, this was the Peter Strzok "Insurance Policy".

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Also, it was Brennens EC that was taken to Comey to launch the DOJ/FBI investigation or counter-intel based partly on Halper's intelligence of Page and Pappi ..

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Remember the Peter Strzok trip to London? The source of John Brennan's "EC" is likely FBI and CIA operative Stefan Halper a foreign policy expert and Cambridge professor with connections to the CIA and its British counterpart, MI6.

There are about two dozen check-references to identify who the 'source' was in providing the underlying intelligence to CIA Director John Brennan; who then wrote the "EC" for the FBI; which started the 2016 Counterintelligence Operation.

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So questions I have at this point, was Brennan a 'tool' of Halper to ultimately create the EC and take it to DOJ/FB? Was Comey a 'tool' of Brennan to take the EC and start an counter-intel investigation of Trump?
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...Look at the timeline. Do the math.
It appears Schneiderman was running a taxpayer-funded shakedown of Trump. And possibly Cohen too.
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FFS

Yet John Huang and Killary still run free.

There is no justice in this country.

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So Trump is gone now?

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So questions I have at this point, was Brennan a 'tool' of Halper to ultimately create the EC and take it to DOJ/FB? Was Comey a 'tool' of Brennan to take the EC and start an counter-intel investigation of Trump?
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There's more to the story. Remember Robert Hannigan, the Director of GCHC who unexpectedly resigned right after Trump's inauguration, was in communication with Brennan and even met with him about possible Russian interference in the Election. So likely it's a larger scheme involving former UK intel (Hakluyt & Dearborne & Steele) as well as active UK intel (Hannigan & Five Eyes). Was it all coordinated, or did the pieces just randomly begin to far together? Was someone on top pulling all the strings? No question though, all the players were pro-Hillary & despised Trump.

There are likely more players though who haven't been exposed. For instance, if you check out Hakluyt, there is a major Clinton supporter/fundraiser, Louis Susman, former Ambassador to the UK -- sworn in by HRC in 2009. Was he involved? I think we have a long way to go to find the bottom of this rabbit hole.

Business ties to Russia probably just means they have Russian sounding names and drink vodka...