I guess staff whacked some posts.

backintexas2013 said:

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I guess staff whacked some posts.

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They got clintoned

ellebee said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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I guess staff whacked some posts.

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They got clintoned

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What was offensive enough that staff had to nuke?

FriscoKid said:

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I need y'alls help. Someone said it was disclosed (in a footnote on the FISA application) that the DNC/Hillary had paid for the dossier. I didn't think this was claimed anywhere, including the Schiff memo.

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Here is the actual quote from the FISA application that Schiff included in his Memo; it had footnotes embedded within it -- it was a photo copy so it has been reproduced below without the footnote annotations, the latter information provided below the quote:

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..In an extensive explanation to the Court, DOJ discloses that Steele

"was approached by an identified U.S. Person, who indicated to Source #1 [Steele] that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. Person to conduct research regarding Candidate #1's ties to Russia. (The identified U.S. Person and Source #1 have a long-standing business relationship.) The identified U.S. Person hired Source #1 to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1's ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign."

(via footnotes)
U.S. Person = Simpson
Source #1 = Steele
U.S.-based law firm = Perkins Coie LLP
Candidate #1 = Donald Trump

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As you can see, the information provided to the Court did not indicate that the dossier was paid for by the DNC & HRC.

This statement is an obvious lie: "The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1's ties to Russia." They had a long standing business relationship since 2010, plus Steele was in the US in September talking to multiple news agencies about the dossier in order to plant leaks. No mention is made of Nellie Ohr working for Fusion GPS, or that the Ohrs were friends with Steele -- I'll wager that Steele & Simpson met with the Ohrs in September when Steele was making the rounds with the news agencies (I think we will find out about the latter as well as Nellie's HAM radio license).

This statement is grossly misleading because the FBI knew that the DNC & HRC had paid for the dossier and that is was opposition research: "The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

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Christopher Steele, the Man Behind the Trump Dossier

How the ex-spy tried to warn the world about Trump's ties to Russia.
By Jane Mayer

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This is an extensive semi-biography on Steele and his participation in the dossier. It is at least a 30 minute read. I suggest that you read it on an empty stomach, because eventually you and your stomach contents will part company.

Doc, I don't think I want to be that enlightened!

BTW, and I'm sure among all 207 pages of this thread, this has been discussed, but other than "The Last Refuge, Thomas Wictor, V Lindsay, and maybe Seth Abramson, who is also good to follow at "threadreaderapp"?

I'm asking because I prefer not to read 3-4 threads of each author, in order to find out who's accurate, and/or provocative. If it's all great, no reply needed--just wondering.

SO it's been a year and just now Mueller is subpoenaing emails from the campaign members?

WTF has he been doing for the last year? He's just now asking for this? If you were actually looking for collusion in the campaign you'd think this would have been a starting point....

What Mueller is asking for: Mueller is subpoenaing all communications including but not limited to emails, texts, handwritten notes, etc. that this witness sent and received regarding the following people:

[ol]

Carter Page

Corey Lewandowski

Donald J. Trump

Hope Hicks

Keith Schiller

Michael Cohen

Paul Manafort

Rick Gates

Roger Stone

Steve Bannon

[/ol]The subpoena asks for all communications from November 1, 2015, to the present. Notably, Trump announced his campaign for president five months earlier on June 16, 2015.

RoscoePColtrane said:

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SO it's been a year and just now Mueller is subpoenaing emails from the campaign members?

WTF has he been doing for the last year? He's just now asking for this? If you were actually looking for collusion in the campaign you'd think this would have been a starting point....

What Mueller is asking for: Mueller is subpoenaing all communications including but not limited to emails, texts, handwritten notes, etc. that this witness sent and received regarding the following people:

[ol]

Carter Page

Corey Lewandowski

Donald J. Trump

Hope Hicks

Keith Schiller

Michael Cohen

Paul Manafort

Rick Gates

Roger Stone

Steve Bannon

[/ol]The subpoena asks for all communications from November 1, 2015, to the present. Notably, Trump announced his campaign for president five months earlier on June 16, 2015.

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It has to do with the 2018 election.

Mueller is planning to drop his nuke about 2 weeks before the election.

At the very least, he is hoping to catch most if not all of those people in some kind of process crime.

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WTF has he been doing for the last year? He's just now asking for this? If you were actually looking for collusion in the campaign you'd think this would have been a starting point....

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Muller is definitely not Penske material

Rapier108 said:

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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SO it's been a year and just now Mueller is subpoenaing emails from the campaign members?

WTF has he been doing for the last year? He's just now asking for this? If you were actually looking for collusion in the campaign you'd think this would have been a starting point....

What Mueller is asking for: Mueller is subpoenaing all communications including but not limited to emails, texts, handwritten notes, etc. that this witness sent and received regarding the following people:

[ol]

Carter Page

Corey Lewandowski

Donald J. Trump

Hope Hicks

Keith Schiller

Michael Cohen

Paul Manafort

Rick Gates

Roger Stone

Steve Bannon

[/ol]The subpoena asks for all communications from November 1, 2015, to the present. Notably, Trump announced his campaign for president five months earlier on June 16, 2015.

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It has to do with the 2018 election.

Mueller is planning to drop his nuke about 2 weeks before the election.

At the very least, he is hoping to catch most if not all of those people in some kind of process crime.

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Has to be tied to his digging into Nadar and the UAE nonsense

Saw the interview with the author this morning, it was like case closed once they got done with the interview, really odd.

Rapier108 said:

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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SO it's been a year and just now Mueller is subpoenaing emails from the campaign members?

WTF has he been doing for the last year? He's just now asking for this? If you were actually looking for collusion in the campaign you'd think this would have been a starting point....

What Mueller is asking for: Mueller is subpoenaing all communications including but not limited to emails, texts, handwritten notes, etc. that this witness sent and received regarding the following people:

[ol]

Carter Page

Corey Lewandowski

Donald J. Trump

Hope Hicks

Keith Schiller

Michael Cohen

Paul Manafort

Rick Gates

Roger Stone

Steve Bannon

[/ol]The subpoena asks for all communications from November 1, 2015, to the present. Notably, Trump announced his campaign for president five months earlier on June 16, 2015.

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It has to do with the 2018 election.

Mueller is planning to drop his nuke about 2 weeks before the election.

At the very least, he is hoping to catch most if not all of those people in some kind of process crime.

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I've seen several tweets suggesting that this is in reference to Kushner. Seems to correlate with the UAE stuff.

Just research some of the other writings of Jane Mayer, Trump basher or really a republican hater, Clinton lover still cant accept reality. She lost.

Steel was funded by the Clintons and knew it. The Golden Shower dossier...sick man this Steele.
Ask yourself:
The Trumps and Kushner agreed to a meeting with the Russians (WHICH WE KNOW THEY DID) unknown to them that the Russians and DAD were already secretly sharing anti Hillary info as DAD was being blackmailed because the Russian had tapes of DAD and the peeing prostitute?

Long story short...she was suppose to win, they couldn't cover their tracks fast enough.

fasthorses05 said:

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Doc, I don't think I want to be that enlightened!

BTW, and I'm sure among all 207 pages of this thread, this has been discussed, but other than "The Last Refuge, Thomas Wictor, V Lindsay, and maybe Seth Abramson, who is also good to follow at "threadreaderapp"?

I'm asking because I prefer not to read 3-4 threads of each author, in order to find out who's accurate, and/or provocative. If it's all great, no reply needed--just wondering.

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Always good:
Trump Soldier
@DaveNYviii

Stealth Jeff
@drawandstrike

Larry Schweikart
@LarrySchweikart

Sometimes good:
MTl (formerly chill)
@MsTriaI

Occasionally good:
Rising serpent
@rising_serpent

These people in the UAE they are looking to try and find some sort of illegal campaign finance or trying to buy political influence with the Trump Campaign, when these same people gave almost 2 billion dollars to the Clinton Foundation? Seriously? This is laughable they would try to buy political influence right? They were helping Haitians when they gave to Bill and Hillary right?

drcrinum said:

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FriscoKid said:

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I need y'alls help. Someone said it was disclosed (in a footnote on the FISA application) that the DNC/Hillary had paid for the dossier. I didn't think this was claimed anywhere, including the Schiff memo.

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Here is the actual quote from the FISA application that Schiff included in his Memo; it had footnotes embedded within it -- it was a photo copy so it has been reproduced below without the footnote annotations, the latter information provided below the quote:

Quote:

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..In an extensive explanation to the Court, DOJ discloses that Steele

"was approached by an identified U.S. Person, who indicated to Source #1 [Steele] that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. Person to conduct research regarding Candidate #1's ties to Russia. (The identified U.S. Person and Source #1 have a long-standing business relationship.) The identified U.S. Person hired Source #1 to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1's ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign."

(via footnotes)
U.S. Person = Simpson
Source #1 = Steele
U.S.-based law firm = Perkins Coie LLP
Candidate #1 = Donald Trump

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As you can see, the information provided to the Court did not indicate that the dossier was paid for by the DNC & HRC.

This statement is an obvious lie: "The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1's ties to Russia." They had a long standing business relationship since 2010, plus Steele was in the US in September talking to multiple news agencies about the dossier in order to plant leaks. No mention is made of Nellie Ohr working for Fusion GPS, or that the Ohrs were friends with Steele -- I'll wager that Steele & Simpson met with the Ohrs in September when Steele was making the rounds with the news agencies (I think we will find out about the latter as well as Nellie's HAM radio license).

This statement is grossly misleading because the FBI knew that the DNC & HRC had paid for the dossier and that is was opposition research: "The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign."

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Thanks! I was trying to sort out what my FBI friend was saying. He's most upset about what Nunes implied about the FBI.

They really did disclose quite a bit about the source of the dossier.

At this point, I truly don't give a rats ass about anything that comes out of the Mueller Investigation.

He's not credible whatsoever. The whole thing is a farce.

Trump needs to tell Sessions to appoint a special prosecutor. If he refuses, fire him. Tired of all this garbage.

"Mueller witness." lol.

He did well for himself.

From the Mayer article:

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Inevitably, though, word of the dossier began to spread through Washington. A former State Department official recalls a social gathering where he danced around the subject with the British Ambassador, Sir Kim Darroch. After exchanging cryptic hints, to make sure that they were both in the know, he asked the Ambassador, "Is this guy Steele legit?" The Ambassador replied, "Absolutely." Brennan, then the C.I.A. director, also heard the rumors. (Nunes reportedly plans to examine Steele's interactions with the C.I.A. and the State Department next.) But Brennan said recently, on "Meet the Press," that he heard just "snippets" about the dossier "in press circles," emphasizing that he didn't see the dossier until well after the election, and said that "it did not play any role whatsoever" in the intelligence community's appraisal of Russian election meddling. Brennan said of the dossier, "It was up to the F.B.I. to see whether or not they could verify any of it."

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This makes absolutely no sense to me. Steele's sources were Russian. That's the purview of the CIA. They also were talking with British intelligence. Why not at least try to get some confirmation from CIA Russian assets? Or ask British intel to check with their Russian assets?

Yet, in August 2016, Obama and Biden are briefed about the Russians allegedly trying to influence the election in Trump's favor. But the dossier is never mentioned? The one that actually named the Russians supposedly running the computer operations?

Tailgate88 said:

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What was offensive enough that staff had to nuke?

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Well someone posted a link to the video Round n Round by Ratt. A horrible song even by 80's hair band standards. Staff took it out and then at least my comment about it. Someone replied to my comment but I never saw it because staff whacked that post too.

Russian ***** claims she has audio tape of Oligarch Oleg Deripaska talking with an US person.

NYT is giddy thinking this is finally it for Trump, but this prompts the question if anyone had seen Mark Warner recently?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/world/asia/nastya-rybka-trump-putin.html

I can't ****ing believe this is what has become of the NYT.

The establishment types seem to be hoping to run this until 2018 and get the house or senate into Dem hands so comittees change hands and unpleasant investigations can be obstructed as usual by the Dems. Stopping Trump is probably viewed as a side benefit now.

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Russian ***** claims she has audio tape of Oligarch Oleg Deripaska talking with an US person.

NYT is giddy thinking this is finally it for Trump, but this prompts the question if anyone had seen Mark Warner recently?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/world/asia/nastya-rybka-trump-putin.html

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A Belarusian escort with close ties to a powerful Russian oligarch said from behind bars in Bangkok on Monday that she had more than 16 hours of audio recordings that could help shed light on Russian meddling in United States elections.

The escort, Anastasia Vashukevich, said she would hand over the recordings if the United States granted her asylum. She faces criminal charges and deportation to Belarus after coming under suspicion of working in Thailand without a visa at a sex-training seminar in the city of Pattaya.

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Sounds totally legit...

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She faces criminal charges and deportation to Belarus after coming under suspicion of working in Thailand without a visa at a sex-training seminar in the city of Pattaya.

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I was there a couple of times in the late 80's when I was a jarhead. I saw things that I wish I had never seen. That place is pretty much one big sex industry circus with everything you could possibly imagine, along with some disturbing stuff for every sicko.

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She faces criminal charges and deportation to Belarus after coming under suspicion of working in Thailand without a visa at a sex-training seminar in the city of Pattaya.

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I was there a couple of times in the late 80's when I was a jarhead. I saw things that I wish I had never seen. That place is pretty much one big sex industry circus with everything you could possibly imagine, along with some disturbing stuff for every sicko.

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Man, this will be difficult to not derail this thread!!

backintexas2013 said:

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Tailgate88 said:

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What was offensive enough that staff had to nuke?

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Well someone posted a link to the video Round n Round by Ratt. A horrible song even by 80's hair band standards. Staff took it out and then at least my comment about it. Someone replied to my comment but I never saw it because staff whacked that post too.

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Now that you bring it up, I'm pretty sure it was me. It was definitely a shot at Mr. Ratt.

My comment was a hit and run, because I went to bed. My guess is that it progressed, so to speak.

I suspected someone on their 3rd blunt, or 9th beer, couldn't wait to interrupt the goings on!

You should have gotten a week for bringing up that song. You could of at least posted Wanted Man or You're in Love.

backintexas2013 said:

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You should have gotten a week for bringing up that song. You could of at least posted Wanted Man or You're in Love.

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No, that wasn't me who brought it up, it was me who posted after you did. I think you said it "that as a random post", which it was.

And yes, I should have gotten a week if I was the one who brought up the song!

friscodick said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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Russian ***** claims she has audio tape of Oligarch Oleg Deripaska talking with an US person.

NYT is giddy thinking this is finally it for Trump, but this prompts the question if anyone had seen Mark Warner recently?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/world/asia/nastya-rybka-trump-putin.html

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A Belarusian escort with close ties to a powerful Russian oligarch said from behind bars in Bangkok on Monday that she had more than 16 hours of audio recordings that could help shed light on Russian meddling in United States elections.

The escort, Anastasia Vashukevich, said she would hand over the recordings if the United States granted her asylum. She faces criminal charges and deportation to Belarus after coming under suspicion of working in Thailand without a visa at a sex-training seminar in the city of Pattaya.

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Sounds totally legit...

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After hearing some stuff this weekend, I wouldn't say this is impossible.

Ok gotcha. Yes I don't remember who posted the Ratt video.

She was probably overhearing conversations between Deripaska and Steele and Waldman.