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The news is slow today so it's time for a MAGA pep talk courtesy of the former Imperator Rex, now turned poet,
Vachel Lindsay.

Recent pages on this thread demonstrate why, in my mind, Trump announced his 2020 campaign

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/us/politics/george-nader-mueller-investigation-united-arab-emirates.html

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Mueller's Focus on Adviser to United Arab Emirates Indicates Widening of Inquiry

George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman, has hovered on the fringes of international diplomacy for three decades. He was a back-channel negotiator with Syria during the Clinton administration, reinvented himself as an adviser to the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates, and last year was a frequent visitor to President Trump's White House.

Mr. Nader is now a focus of the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller's investigators have questioned Mr. Nader and have pressed witnesses for information about any possible attempts by the Emiratis to buy political influence by directing money to support Mr. Trump during the presidential campaign, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.

The investigators have also asked about Mr. Nader's role in White House policymaking, those people said, suggesting that the special counsel investigation has broadened beyond Russian election meddling to include Emirati influence on the Trump administration. The focus on Mr. Nader could also prompt an examination of how money from multiple countries has flowed through and influenced Washington during the Trump era.

How much this line of inquiry is connected to Mr. Mueller's original task of investigating contacts between Mr. Trump's campaign and Russia is unclear. The examination of the U.A.E. comes amid a flurry of recent activity by Mr. Mueller.

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Of course this is Maggie Haberman of the NYSlimes and it involves a reputed leak from Team Mueller. Could be just stirring the pot, but it seems rather far afield from the Russian probe. Grasping for straws? The UAE was a donor to the Clinton Foundation.

He needs to get out the vote and campaign for republicans relentlessly for 2018. And as I have said before the oig report had better be the real deal. Things w get ugly fast if Republicans lose the house.

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Of course this is Maggie Haberman of the NYSlimes and it involves a reputed leak from Team Mueller. Could be just stirring the pot, but it seems rather far afield from the Russian probe. Grasping for straws? The UAE was a donor to the Clinton Foundation.

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I'm beginning to think that Trump leaks to Haberman on purpose. Creates his own false news through her willingness to say anything bad about him.

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"The Democrats don't matter...The real opposition is the media. And the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with s**t."

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Quote from Bannon. Fake news, real leaks.

https://amp.thedailybeast.com/how-a-champion-of-democracy-became-a-manafort-flack

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How a Champion of Democracy Became a Manafort Flack

In the middle of the 2012 presidential race, Mitt Romney's campaign had an unusual moment. The Republican billed himself as a foreign policy hawk who would stand up to the Kremlin. But on May 9, 2012, one of his foreign policy advisors, lobbyist Vin Weber, signed a little-noticed contract with a man in Vladimir Putin's wider orbit. It was a deal that would reverberate for years to come....

Two years later, in 2012, Weber sowed the seeds for his Mueller encounter. At the time, Manafort was working for Viktor Yanukovych, Ukraine's Kremlin-allied president. Some in Yanukovych's government were pushing for the country to sign an agreement with the European Union that would have warmed their relations. But they didn't want to make the democratic reforms Western governments would have demanded. Also, Yanukovych's top political rival, Yulia Tymoshenko, was imprisoned at the time, and they didn't want to let her out.

So Yanukovych and his allies hired a phalanx of lobbyists through Paul Manafort and his then-deputy, Rick Gates to try to persuade leaders in Washington and Brussels that reforms wouldn't be necessary for Ukraine and the EU to grow closer, and that Tymoshenko's imprisonment was above-board.

By signing a contract with a group called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine, Weber became part of that phalanx....

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So Gates lied to Weber in writing, stating that Yanukovych's ruling party, the Party of Regions, wasn't funding the lobbying on behalf of Ukraine. Weber then released a public statement from the Romney Campaign to this effect. So this is the focal point for Mueller's investigation, and as you might expect, one lie led to another and this is how Gates & Manafort were initially indicted...for lying. Weber has been a cooperating witness for Mueller. So after you read the article and become familiar with the details, will someone please explain to me what this has to do with the Russian collusion investigation that Mueller is supposedly performing.

Just making sure the people chomping at the bit on the Muller investigation at least get a bennigans coupon and some gum out of it.

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Mueller's probe has left K Street shaken, with lobbyists scrambling to update their filings. And it destroyed the Podesta Group, a Democratic-aligned firm that also worked with Manafort and Weber. MercuryLLC has stayed in tact, and is raking in more business than ever. Weber hasn't slowed down either. The firm's latest Justice Department fillings show he's been busy making calls and setting up meetings for the government of Qatar.

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Earth to Sessions! Come in Jeff! Start prosecuting FARA violations and ruin as many lobbyists as possible.

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..."So Congress has proven itself incapable of investigating this FISA abuse. DOJ should not be looking into it. We need an independent arbiter that's either the inspector general or special counsel."

Gowdy also said, "Maria over the weekend, I'd counted up almost two dozen witnesses that the inspector general would not have access to, were he alone conducting this investigation, so I think we're trending perhaps towards another special counsel because of this unique fact pattern and the fact that there are witnesses outside the reach of the inspector general."...

"You need an independent arbiter, and the Department of Justice cannot investigate itself. Horowitz can Horowitz is a fair guy, but when there are two dozen witnesses that have left the department or worked for another agency, someone else has to do it and I am reluctant to call for special counsel, but I think it may be unavoidable in this fact pattern."

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Mueller's probe has left K Street shaken, with lobbyists scrambling to update their filings. And it destroyed the Podesta Group, a Democratic-aligned firm that also worked with Manafort and Weber. MercuryLLC has stayed in tact, and is raking in more business than ever. Weber hasn't slowed down either. The firm's latest Justice Department fillings show he's been busy making calls and setting up meetings for the government of Qatar.

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Earth to Sessions! Come in Jeff! Start prosecuting FARA violations and ruin as many lobbyists as possible.

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You and I both know it will never happen unless Trump forces their hand. The AG's for decades has turned a blind eye to FARA violations because the Swamp loves the money. I've talked about this until I'm blue in the face. Mueller charging anyone with a FARA violation is window dressing because they never pursue the charges and are dropped down through history. It's all fluff

Point being that we already have laws on the books that can be utilized to clean out the lobbyists. Don't need Congress to act, need the Trump Administration to act.

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Point being that we already have laws on the books that can be utilized to clean out the lobbyists. Don't need Congress to act, need the Trump Administration to act.

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And Ma'am I'm aware of what you meant, it's just been a frustration of mine for decades. I wasn't meaning to come across as being obtuse, just venting more than anything, and you got fragged on accident, my apologies..

Oh, don't worry at all. I didn't take any of that personally. No worries, mate!

But I share your frustration (and Grassley's too) that FARA is not enforced. The lobbyists are a very large component of the "swamp" that needs to be drained. And one that Sessions can perform without arduous investigations. Even if Flynn and Manafort get caught up in that. And it is another Trump campaign promise that can be acted upon.

Frankly, I don't know why Sessions hasn't acted before now. Maybe some of those sealed indictments are FARA-related?? (Crosses fingers and says a prayer.)

Seems like I read somewhere the last FARA conviction was in maybe in the Ike years. Lots of cases of people being charged and some even tried, but never convicted or they pled out on a different charge. DC protect FARA and downplays they vast amount of abuses, because it makes a lot of people in DC rich. It's just pathetic

Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

Bobcat06 said:

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Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

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I suppose he could, if Horowitz has kept his license to practice law up to date.

aggiehawg said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

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I suppose he could, if Horowitz has kept his license to practice law up to date.

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The best thing to do would be select someone from completely outside of D.C. such as a state AG or someone from a state AG's office who has experience in large scale investigations.

aggiehawg said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

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I suppose he could, if Horowitz has kept his license to practice law up to date.

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Now that is actually the most plausible answer to date. Grant Horowitz prosecutorial authority. It's politically sound as he is an Obama appointee, pretty much not political from all anyone can tell. The left can't scream bloody murder that he's a Trump apologist or crony.

Well done Bobcat

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aggiehawg said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

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I suppose he could, if Horowitz has kept his license to practice law up to date.

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The best thing to do would be select someone from completely outside of D.C. such as a state AG or someone from a state AG's office who has experience in large scale investigations.

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The other advantage that Horowitz has is that he could take people from his own office for his team. Avoid the outside attorneys and their staffing issues. He still would need some FBI folks though, or maybe NSA computer nerds?

Horowitz does have some prosecutor experience.

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Mr. Horowitz worked in DOJ from 1991 to 2002. He served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York from 1991 to 1999, where he was the Chief of the Public Corruption Unit and a Deputy Chief of the Criminal Division. In 1995, he was awarded the Attorney General's Award for Distinguished Service for his work on a complex police corruption investigation. Thereafter, he worked in the DOJ Criminal Division in Washington from 1999 to 2002, first as a Deputy Assistant Attorney General and then as Chief of Staff.

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Rapier108 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

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I suppose he could, if Horowitz has kept his license to practice law up to date.

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The best thing to do would be select someone from completely outside of D.C. such as a state AG or someone from a state AG's office who has experience in large scale investigations.

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Would Chris Christie or Rudy Giuliani fit the bill?

cctexagMD said:

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Rapier108 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

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I suppose he could, if Horowitz has kept his license to practice law up to date.

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The best thing to do would be select someone from completely outside of D.C. such as a state AG or someone from a state AG's office who has experience in large scale investigations.

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Would Chris Christie or Rudy Giuliani fit the bill?

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No, to both.

Mueller is way far off of the tracks going after the UAE and the Trump Presidential administration. Rosenstein cannot possibly be fine with that...unless he's also a Black Hat.

LINK

aggiehawg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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Could Sessions appoint Horowitz as Special Prosecutor?

He already knows everything but just needs prosecutorial authority, right?

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I suppose he could, if Horowitz has kept his license to practice law up to date.

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The best thing to do would be select someone from completely outside of D.C. such as a state AG or someone from a state AG's office who has experience in large scale investigations.

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Would Chris Christie or Rudy Giuliani fit the bill?

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No, to both.

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You have to admit watching the left meltdown would be iconic, but you are right, NO to BOTH

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You have to admit watching the left meltdown would be iconic, but you are right, NO to BOTH

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Confess I wasn't thinking about the left's reaction. I was thinking about who could actually run an effective and rigorous investigation. Neither Christie nor Rudy could do so, in my estimation. (Too bad Bugliosi died.)

I need y'alls help. Someone said it was disclosed (in a footnote on the FISA application) that the DNC/Hillary had paid for the dossier. I didn't think this was claimed anywhere, including the Schiff memo.

The Schiff memo cites a footbote in the FISA application noting that the Steele dossier was put together by a known person politically against Candidate #1 (Trump) who was paid by a law firm. It does not name Steele or Perkins Coie, or bring up payment by the DNC.

Schiff was happy enough to posit this as "revealing the political origin of the dossier" back when his memo had not been released.

FriscoKid said:

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I need y'alls help. Someone said it was disclosed (in a footnote on the FISA application) that the DNC/Hillary had paid for the dossier. I didn't think this was claimed anywhere, including the Schiff memo.

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Lie.

tallgrant explained well.

If you are not watching Mark Levin on FoxNews right now, you should be. Has Nunes in an interview.

drcrinum said:

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If you are not watching Mark Levin on FoxNews right now, you should be. Has Nunes in an interview.

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Live Stream

drcrinum said:

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If you are not watching Mark Levin on FoxNews right now, you should be. Has Nunes in an interview.

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Just posted a link to the latest episode in full in it's own thread

aggiehawg said:

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FriscoKid said:

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I need y'alls help. Someone said it was disclosed (in a footnote on the FISA application) that the DNC/Hillary had paid for the dossier. I didn't think this was claimed anywhere, including the Schiff memo.

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Lie.

tallgrant explained well.

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I hope you are right. Xxxxxx, thinks the FBI knew what was going on and told the FISA judge as much.

I cry BS.

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No, to both.

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BIG TIME NO, especially Christie who is as corrupt as hell and has a personal agenda.

Horowitz would be the best option.