Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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scottimus said:

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Wray needs to go. Pure swamp

You must have seen the hearing today.


Listening on the radio
Still waiting for an answer: What is it you think Wray has done that is cause for termination?
It is painfully obvious that Wray is trying to salvage a sinking, burning ship with a mutiny on one side and foot soldiers of a previous captain on the other.. The sails are torn, the hull is breached, and leaks are everywhere. Either he joins the original crew or sinks the ship, in my opinion.,,,and lets everyone deal with the sharks.
Bullshlt. The first week you go in and view ALL relevant docs. You fire every dishonest agent and you disclose every unlawful act.

That is what an honest man would do.
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I feel good. Like I'm back from the dead.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/963580969604202497.html

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Another thing. There is a LOT more to the @GenFlynn story that's going to emerge. That will not only VINDICATE the great man, but BURY his (and our) enemies.


A thread about General Flynn. Includes some timelines and comments. I've posted the conclusion. The author of this thread personally communicates with General Flynn.
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For any late comers to this huge thread if you haven't seen this "dossier" as it is referred to by the MSM here it is. And this is what they used to spy on a opposition presidential candidate paid for by the opposing party. Truly unbelievable it's came to all this.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html
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Here is an interesting article by Victor Davis Hanson about FISA-gate, Clinton emails, Uranium one, etc.

He discusses and speculates on where all of this goes from here?

Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking And So What?
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I like his handle/avatar

Will read it. I wonder if it explains why he resigned in the first place. If it was all manufactured, it should have been possible to weather the storm.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/963575629655425024.html
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I'll allow it. lol
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ccatag said:

Here is an interesting article by Victor Davis Hanson about FISA-gate, Clinton emails, Uranium one, etc.

He discusses and speculates on where all of this goes from here?

Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking And So What?
Limbaugh talked about this article today.
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Wictor is pretty fascinating

Not sure where he gets his theories/summations - reading about him he sounds crazy/crazy genius

He's a big proponent of Flynn the spook/hero but also writes devilishly good threads on the ME
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Yeah, he tends to stay away from domestic politics for the most part, but apparently he's been on the "rice flipped" thing since last April or something. Definitely at his best when discussing the ME
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drcrinum said:



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/963580969604202497.html

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Another thing. There is a LOT more to the @GenFlynn story that's going to emerge. That will not only VINDICATE the great man, but BURY his (and our) enemies.


A thread about General Flynn. Includes some timelines and comments. I've posted the conclusion. The author of this thread personally communicates with General Flynn.

The Jan. 24 interview, McCabe had contacted Flynn by phone directly at the White House. White House officials had spent the earlier part of the week with the FBI overseeing training and security measures associated with their new roles so it was no surprise to Flynn that McCabe had called, McCabe told Flynn "some agents were heading over (to the White House) but Flynn thought it was part of the routine work the FBI had been doing and said they would be cleared at the gate", It wasn't until after they were already in his office that he realized he was being formally interviewed. He didn't have an attorney with him and that's a problem. Strzok was a complete ambush, and it was deliberate. And it didn't matter what the hell he said in that interview, Strzok was going to frame it the way he wanted. They knew Flynn was vulnerable because of his work with Turkey through a third party. He had been under surveillance for months and was set up from the beginning.

Lots of people right here on TA have asked the question why would Michael Flynn have lied about talking to Sergey Kislyak in the first place? You know that's a damn good question, problem is did he really lie? Well to steal a term thrown around here by a couple of posters the Occam's Razor answer is the toxic political environment that existed in January 2017, where the administration was being hammered by a damn tsunami of media narratives and political opposition claiming that any scintilla of contact with anything Russian meant that Putin and Trump were "colluding" and Flynn would be damned if he was going to fuel that BS. Or when Pence made the statement that Flynn had no contact with anyone from Russia etc. any contradictory statement from Flynn would make Pence appear compromised; so Flynn had to stick to it without clarification.

Have to keep in mind, was his actual contact with Kislyak illegal or even improper? Hell no it wasn't, every transition team in history has done the very same thing. However the next day the DOJ received a detailed report from the FBI agents who had interviewed Flynn (Strzok and ??). Yates said in her statement she felt "it was important to get this information to the White House as quickly as possible." And the next day she went to the WH along with Bill Priestap (Strzok's boss), who was overseeing the matter. This was Yates' first meeting with McGahn in his office, which also acts as a (SCIF) in the Eisenhower building.


According to Sally Yates Testimony:


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Yates said she began their meeting by laying out the media accounts and media statements made by Vice President Mike Pence and other high-ranking White House officials about General Flynn's activity "that we knew not to be the truth."

According to Sally Yates testimony, she and Bill Priestap reportedly presented all the information to McGahn so the White House could take action that they deemed appropriate. When asked by McGahn if Flynn should be fired, Yates answered, "that really wasn't our call."

Yates also said her decision to notify the White House counsel had been discussed "at great length." According to her testimony: "Certainly leading up to our notification on the 26th, it was a topic of a whole lot of discussion in DOJ and with other members of the intel community."

But then the next day Don McGahn called Yates in the morning and asked if she could come back to his office.

Once again according to her testimony:


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Specifically, according to Yates, one of the questions McGahn asked Yates was, "Why does it matter to DOJ if one White House official lies to another?" She explained that it "was a whole lot more than that," and reviewed the same issues outlined the prior day.

McGahn expressed his concern that taking action might interfere with the FBI investigation of Flynn, and Yates said it wouldn't. "It wouldn't really be fair of us to tell you this and then expect you to sit on your hands," Yates had told McGahn.

McGahn asked if he could look at the underlying evidence of Flynn's conduct, and she said they would work with the FBI over the weekend and "get back with him on Monday morning."


And only a few hours later only a few hours later, POTUS is having dinner with FBI Director James Comey where he asked Comey if he was under investigation. To which Comey told him no, by his own admission. No also remember during this time there has been a friggin firehose of Russian Conspiracy Narrative that was leading the headlines for the two months prior to this dinner; and knowing moments earlier your Chief White House counsel informs you that two political operatives (Yates and Priestap) within the DOJ were providing classified intelligence reports about General Flynn; and knowing the prior months (Nov/Dec/Jan) before you were even sworn in, the intelligence community was full of damn leaks from intelligence reports identical to those that are being discussed with him. Just perhaps wouldn't you think that any action you take could be utilized to add fuel to this Russian narrative? You damn right you would if you are being truthful and thanks to Admiral Rogers Trump knows he can't trust any of these swamp creatures.

Mueller has charged Flynn with failing to tell FBI agents that he asked the ambassador "to refrain from escalating the situation" in response to the sanctions. Lying by omission or misleading the FBI. According to the plea, while being questioned by FBI agents on January 24, 2017, Flynn also lied when he claimed he could not recall a subsequent conversation with Kislyak, in which the ambassador told Flynn that the Putin regime had "chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of Flynn's request."

https://www.scribd.com/document/366062176/Michael-Flynn-FBI-Charge-Lying-to-Investigators

Also a week before the sanctions were imposed, Flynn had also spoken to Kislyak, asking him to delay or defeat a vote on a pending United Nations resolution. The indictment charges that Flynn lied to the FBI by denying both that he'd made this request and that he'd spoken afterward with Kislyak about Russia's response to it. This is where it gets very suspect and that the 302's were possibly changed. According to Comey's testimony he didn't think Flynn had intentionally lied, he was just confused about which conversations were being asked about and the fact that there was so much going on at the time he thought Flynn was just confused. And reports are that the other agent felt the same way. But after Comey was fired and Mueller was in place, the 302 prepared by Strzok read something very different. Just keep in mind there was not a damn thing wrong with the incoming national-security adviser's having meetings with foreign counterparts or discussing such matters as the sanctions in those meetings. NOTHING! SO they get him in a process crime and now we are here.

All this damn kabuki theater is all about optics, narratives and political leverage. However, everything about this dynamic is factually encompassing the existential threat that outsider Trump represents to the established way of life in the DC Swamp. And these SOBs have pulled out all the stops and he is still dealing with these damn headwinds and moving forward. It's pretty damn amazing when you sit down and think about it from 10,000 ft.
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Interesting interview with Joe di Genova. He claims there are 24 different leak investigations currently being conducted by the FBI. He also says that Priestap is cooperating with the IG.

Edit for direct link to YouTube:

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Deats! Who is reading this thread!? Blindey?

My suspense is killing me! Give me a crumb guys!
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Times up
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Watch your six boys...
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Interesting interview with Joe di Genova. He claims there are 24 different leak investigations currently being conducted by the FBI. He also says that Priestap is cooperating with the IG.
That's some interview. DiGenova seems to really know what's happening. Lots of drops. Schiff Memo must be redacted because there is an active investigation going on regarding the FISA warrant on Page. Priestap & others cooperating. A whole bunch of investigations going on. Expects the OIG Report in 2-3 weeks at best, possibly longer since it must be vetted by CIA/NSA first. When OIG report is released, Schiif will be humiliated and revealed to be a dirty scumbag.

And he people interviewing DiGenova are fully up to speed on what's happening -- better than anyone in the regular media.
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DiGenova was a player during his career and is still very well connected with what is going on. He's very well respected by the people in the know.
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Yates better burn when this is all said and done
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Deats said:

Watch your six boys...
WTH is going on here?
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Deats said:

Times up

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One of the only useful questions asked at the hearing today.
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It could have legs

We know someone flipped and that email screams 'pick me'
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All fingers point at McCabe in this case.
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This is going to come into Play, Barry's last month in office move to disseminate classified info all over the hill.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3283349-Raw-12333-surveillance-sharing-guidelines.html

And these two characters are going to be caught up in it. Because I think it is going to be proven that they were spreading classified info all over the place before this was ever signed and are going to have to answer for it. This was done after the fact to cover their asses.

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drcrinum said:

ccatag said:

Here is an interesting article by Victor Davis Hanson about FISA-gate, Clinton emails, Uranium one, etc.

He discusses and speculates on where all of this goes from here?

Scandal, Corruption, Lawbreaking And So What?
Limbaugh talked about this article today.
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Accepting any of these obfuscations would be a grave mistake.
Despite a nonstop media assault on Trump's administration, Representative Devin Nunes, and the congressional investigative committees, more than 50 percent of the public already believes that the Trump campaign was illegally surveilled and smeared through the confluence of the Clinton campaign, the Obama administration, and the FBI.
Voters would only grow more cynical if some Americans were allowed to abuse constitutionally protected civil liberties, and to lie to the Congress, the FBI, and the courts, while the less connected others go to jail for much less. Without a judicial accounting, it will be impossible to clean up the hierarchies of the FBI and the DOJ.
Indeed, absent accountability and punishment, the new modus operandi would be for any lame- duck incumbent administration to use federal agencies to enhance the campaign of its own party's nominee. It would be only logical to conclude that criminal acts used to help a successor would be forgotten or rewarded under the victor's tenure.
What is needed?
Attorney General Sessions must find muscular, ambitious, and combative prosecutors (preferably from outside Washington, D.C., and preferably existing federal attorneys), direct them to call a Grand Jury, and begin collating information from congressional investigations to get to the bottom of what is likely one of gravest scandals in post-war American history: the effort to use the federal government to thwart the candidacy of an unpopular presidential candidate and then to smear and ruin his early tenure as president.
Only another prosecutorial investigation, one way or another, will lead to resolution, take the entire mess out of the partisan arena, and keep the anemic Mueller investigation honest with the full knowledge that if its own investigators have violated laws or used tainted evidence or in the past obstructed justice, then they too will be held to account.
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I am not connected in any way, nor do I have any inside information about any of this. But I'm kinda hoping something major goes down today, because "The Valentine's Day Massacre" has a nice ring to it. Just sayin'.
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From the same Wictor article: It perfectly surmises this into s storm in a few paragraphs. Kind of like a cliff notes or 'scandalous coup attempt for dummies'

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The FISA-gate, Clinton emails, and Uranium One scandals are sort of reaching a consensus. Many things quite wrong and illegal were done by both Hillary Clinton and her entourage and members of the Obama agencies and administration both the acts themselves and the cover-ups and omissions that ensued.
Remember, in the FISA-gate scandal such likely widespread criminal behavior was predicated on two premises: 1) certainty of an easy Clinton victory, after which the miscreants would be not only excused but probably rewarded for their zeal; 2) progressive hubris in which our supposedly moral betters felt it their right, indeed their duty, to use unethical and even unlawful means for the "greater good" to achieve their self-described moral ends of stopping the crude and reactionary Trump.
The wrongdoing probably includes attempting to warp a U.S. election, Russian collusion, repeatedly misleading and lying before the FISA courts, improperly surveilling American citizens, unmasking the names of citizens swept up in unlawful surveillance and then illegally leaking them to the press, disseminating and authenticating opposition smears during a political campaign, lying under oath to Congress, obstructing ongoing investigations, using federal funds to purchase ad hominem gossip against a presidential candidate, blatant conflicts of interests, weaponizing federal investigations, trafficking in and leaking classified information . . . The list goes on and on.
The State Department is now involved. Apparently anyone who was a former Clinton smear artist can pass fantasies to a sympathetic or known political appointee at State. And if the "dossier" fits the proper narrative and shared agenda, it gains credence enough to ensure that it is passed up to senior State officials and on to the FBI. Perhaps a private citizen with a grudge against a rival should try that as well.
These scandals will grow even greater before various congressional investigations expire.



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100% of the time, it happens every time - when the morally bankrupt left accuses the right of doing something nefarious, the left has already perfected said nefarious activity.
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I hope they turn this into the biggest **** show in the history of Criminal proceedings. Forget OJ...I'll give them Russia for the first year of Trump's of Presidency, it was a bold strategy, Cotton. Theses next 7 better leave a mark on these people like that of which American politics has never seen....when I think of the arguments I've had liberal mouthpieces screaming Russia, Russia!... it worked perfectly from a media campaign...and now it's over.
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scottimus said:

I hope they turn this into the biggest **** show in the history of Criminal proceedings. Forget OJ...I'll give them Russia for the first year of Trump's of Presidency, it was a bold strategy, Cotton. Theses next 7 better leave a mark on these people like that of which American politics has never seen....when I think of the arguments I've had liberal mouthpieces screaming Russia, Russia!... it worked perfectly from a media campaign...and now it's over.
Easy there.

Yes, that particular part is over, but until there are consequences, especially harsh consequences, then it's not only going to happen again, I guarantee you some other form of it is happening right now.

There are so many investigations going on, in so many different directions, about so many different topics, my eyes are going to glaze over. Of course, that's ideal for the Dems. They're so good at muddying the water with just one memo, imagine what they can do with 24 leak investigations.
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One of the only useful questions asked at the hearing today.



More on this. Turns out that McCabe knew Dersipaska.
Plus Steele worked with McCabe & Ohr while Steele was active in MI6.
And you see the Russian lobbyist Waldman texting Warner about meeting in London with Steele when Dersipaska happened to be visiting London at the same time.
Beginning to look like McCabe & Ohr (+Nellie) where helping or knowledgeable of Derispaska feeding Russian intel to Steele for the dossier.
Speculation at this point, but remember, Wray wouldn't talk about it publicly.
The rabbit hole is bottomless.

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