I don't know for sure or not - but when I pull that document up it looks like it could easily be fake.RoscoePColtrane said:
Have no fear Uncle Grassley is here. Regardless of what the liberal judge decided the Memos are in the right hands as well.
jjeffers1 said:No. He was gone a month before the FISA on him was granted. But they damn sure listened in on more folks than Carter Page - who was no longer part of the campaign at all.FriscoKid said:
Timeline?
Was Page still on the campaign team when the warrant was issued? Another thread said no.
Good find. I don't remember seeing this letter, but I've reached the point of saturation overload...there is just too much to remember, it's like a 1,000 page Russian novel.RoscoePColtrane said:
Have no fear Uncle Grassley is here. Regardless of what the liberal judge decided the Memos are in the right hands as well.
Well here's the Trump hating CNN talking about itjjeffers1 said:I don't know for sure or not - but when I pull that document up it looks like it could easily be fake.RoscoePColtrane said:
Have no fear Uncle Grassley is here. Regardless of what the liberal judge decided the Memos are in the right hands as well.
Maybe I'm just cynical.
And here's it officially from Sen Grassley himselfjjeffers1 said:I don't know for sure or not - but when I pull that document up it looks like it could easily be fake.RoscoePColtrane said:
Have no fear Uncle Grassley is here. Regardless of what the liberal judge decided the Memos are in the right hands as well.
Maybe I'm just cynical.
Here's my problem. The FBI never investigated the DNC "hack". Never. Didn't take the servers for a forensic analysis, never questioned the DNC IT people. NOTHING! If they had, Awan would have popped up as DWS'a IT guy. He was shielded for some weird reason.Quote:
I'm open to the Mueller investigation having some legitimacy into being concerned with Russias attempts to get close to Trump or hack the DNC if the reported Papadopoulos / Russia interactions and origin of Papadopoulos FISA is true. But if Trump is that target of inquiry as opposed to Russians then it's a complete farce.
aggiehawg said:
I can't believe Mueller still has faith in Comey as a credible witness for an obstruction charge against Trump. That's some weapon's grade cognitive dissonance.
aggiehawg said:
but Mueller seemingly keeps digging himself into a deeper hole. For a smart man, the question is why??
Reservoir Dog said:Tailgate88 said:Rosenstein needs to be fired.drcrinum said:FriscoKid said:HeardAboutPerio said:Rapier108 said:
1:08 mark about Rosenstein
Holy **** if true that rosenstein threatened intelligence committee members he would subpoena their text messages and emails because he was tired of their investigation.
Well, that's a huge nugget!
Now another source has come forward.
He needs to be perp-walked...
Small additionCrazyDayDuck said:aggiehawg said:
but Mueller seemingly keeps digging himself into a deeper hole. For a smart man, the question is why??
But is Mueller a smart man?
I know that before this investigation began, Mueller had a reputation as being the epitome of a professional.
However, over the past year we learned that:
1) He signed off on the Uranium One deal as the FBI Director
1a)He was fully aware there was a corruption, bribery, money laundering investigation in full swing by the FBI and said nothing while the Uranium deal went down.
2) He packed his team full of zealous liberals like Andrew Weissmann
3) His best friend, James Comey, is a total nut case
For such a smart guy, he sure shows bad judgement.
I get the feeling his reputation was overblown. Either that or he has gone senile over the past few years.
Regardless, this investigation is ruining his reputation. You would think that his friends would have had an intervention by now. Then again, it looks like he surrounds himself with deranged NeverTrumpers so he probably has no sane friend to speak to him.
What a pathetic man.
RoscoePColtrane said:Small additionCrazyDayDuck said:aggiehawg said:
but Mueller seemingly keeps digging himself into a deeper hole. For a smart man, the question is why??
But is Mueller a smart man?
I know that before this investigation began, Mueller had a reputation as being the epitome of a professional.
However, over the past year we learned that:
1) He signed off on the Uranium One deal as the FBI Director
1a)He was fully aware there was a corruption, bribery, money laundering investigation in full swing by the FBI and said nothing while the Uranium deal went down.
2) He packed his team full of zealous liberals like Andrew Weissmann
3) His best friend, James Comey, is a total nut case
For such a smart guy, he sure shows bad judgement.
I get the feeling his reputation was overblown. Either that or he has gone senile over the past few years.
Regardless, this investigation is ruining his reputation. You would think that his friends would have had an intervention by now. Then again, it looks like he surrounds himself with deranged NeverTrumpers so he probably has no sane friend to speak to him.
What a pathetic man.
CrazyDayDuck said:aggiehawg said:
but Mueller seemingly keeps digging himself into a deeper hole. For a smart man, the question is why??
But is Mueller a smart man?
I know that before this investigation began, Mueller had a reputation as being the epitome of a professional.
However, over the past year we learned that:
1) He signed off on the Uranium One deal as the FBI Director
2) He packed his team full of zealous liberals like Andrew Weissmann
3) His best friend, James Comey, is a total nut case
For such a smart guy, he sure shows bad judgement.
I get the feeling his reputation was overblown. Either that or he has gone senile over the past few years.
Regardless, this investigation is ruining his reputation. You would think that his friends would have had an intervention by now. Then again, it looks like he surrounds himself with deranged NeverTrumpers so he probably has no sane friend to speak to him.
What a pathetic man.
law-apt-3g said:
RoscoePColtrane posted a link of an Order which pretty much absolves tres letter agencies of the FISA abuse corruption. see conclusions pg 56
https://www.scribd.com/document/349542716/Top-Secret-FISA-Court-Order-President-Obama-Spying-on-Political-Enemies
I would have to hope that this is in no way true. I believe there is a digital trail somewhere that shows there were deliberate instructions by leadership keeping the FBI from going anywhere near that server. And those instructions likely went from Debbie the loon to Clinton and to Jarret to Holder and so on.Quote:
It is that the FBI is staffed by people that fundamentally are that incompetent and stupid. That our education system is that broken and has been for too long a time.
Sound logic. No question the memo poisoned the FBI/FISA relationship ... thus raising the court's burden of proof ... and therefore, the FBI's argument why the memo damages national security.reb, said:
What if theres something going on that just popped up last week, unrelated to this, that they really need the FISA court to sign off on? Like a legit threat? If such was the case I could see Wray wanting the memo to stay under wraps.
Thanks. I struggled understanding the FBI's fixation on Carter Page since FISA surveillance starting after he left the campaign and continued for over a year thereafter. The only logical purpose being; (1) suspicion he was a hostile agent or (2) he was an "intel gateway" to others of interest.reb, said:
TheLastRefuge: "With FISA Title I surveillance authority on an individual the FBI can conduct full search and seizure capability on any entity, any group, any organization and/or any person they come in contact with. FISA "Title I" engages Carter Page as a hostile agent of a foreign gov."
Trail first and a fair one. Then gut shots with a .22 if found guilty.SRBS said:
There are a bunch of Quislings that need to be lined up against a wall and shot post haste!
benchmark said:Sound logic. No question the memo poisoned the FBI/FISA relationship ... thus raising the court's burden of proof ... and therefore, the FBI's argument why the memo damages national security.reb, said:
What if theres something going on that just popped up last week, unrelated to this, that they really need the FISA court to sign off on? Like a legit threat? If such was the case I could see Wray wanting the memo to stay under wraps.
I think so.benchmark said:Thanks. I struggled understanding the FBI's fixation on Carter Page since FISA surveillance starting after he left the campaign and continued for over a year thereafter. The only logical purpose being; (1) suspicion he was a hostile agent or (2) he was an "intel gateway" to others of interest.reb, said:
TheLastRefuge: "With FISA Title I surveillance authority on an individual the FBI can conduct full search and seizure capability on any entity, any group, any organization and/or any person they come in contact with. FISA "Title I" engages Carter Page as a hostile agent of a foreign gov."
Next question ... was Page's FISA surveillance the root source of raw intel that resulted in rampant 'unmasking' during the campaign and transition?
Critical thinking is, well critical. For example can anyone truly human remain apolitical in a place like DC, in this era where the ideological disparity between the 2 sides are so wide, they will not be able to coexist in the long term within the same poli.AG 2000' said:CrazyDayDuck said:aggiehawg said:
but Mueller seemingly keeps digging himself into a deeper hole. For a smart man, the question is why??
But is Mueller a smart man?
I know that before this investigation began, Mueller had a reputation as being the epitome of a professional.
However, over the past year we learned that:
1) He signed off on the Uranium One deal as the FBI Director
2) He packed his team full of zealous liberals like Andrew Weissmann
3) His best friend, James Comey, is a total nut case
For such a smart guy, he sure shows bad judgement.
I get the feeling his reputation was overblown. Either that or he has gone senile over the past few years.
Regardless, this investigation is ruining his reputation. You would think that his friends would have had an intervention by now. Then again, it looks like he surrounds himself with deranged NeverTrumpers so he probably has no sane friend to speak to him.
What a pathetic man.
Having a great reputation in both sides of the aisle in DC means he played ball with both sides and was apolitical.
The only thing that makes sense on this is that he's trying to clean things up so his buddies don't get burned and likely in return for help or cover for his own corrupt involvement in U1.
I think if U1 gets prosecuted he's one of the defendants. I also think that the swamp on both sides has agreed that if he can nail Trump they'll all shake hands and white wash the whole thing for each other.
And supposedly, NSA has the info on who was doing the altering.friscodick said:
Nope next question is how much Page used instructions from the Kremlin to alter voter machines. I can't wait until that's revealed. What a farce this has been with the Dems.
FIFYReservoir Dog said:
http://www.nationalreview.com/
Excellent write up from Victor Davis Hanson on the memo, what it all means, comparisons to Watergate, coupled with the potential crimes involved.
You'll have to reference "The Ticking Memo" article.
