Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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In reply to IDAGG • 11:42a, 1/19/18
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IDAGG said:
And here are the Dem talking points. I nailed a few of them:


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But the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-California, characterized the memo as misleading and inaccurate. The committee, Schiff explained, had voted Thursday along party lines "to grant House Members access to a profoundly misleading set of talking points drafted by Republican staff attacking the FBI and its handling of the investigation."

"Rife with factual inaccuracies and referencing highly classified materials that most of Republican Intelligence Committee members were forced to acknowledge they had never read, this is meant only to give Republican House members a distorted view of the FBI," Schiff's statement said. "This may help carry White House water, but it is a deep disservice to our law enforcement professionals.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-call-for-release-of-memo-on-surveillance-abuses/
Dems say, "The GOP is just lying. Nobody should believe them."

And that's the best defense they have right now. You can bet the Leftist Media will always present whatever "evidence" the GOP brings forward in this skeptical light. They and their Leftist media talking heads will never give any legitimacy to the claims. They will never capitulate. Never. Get ready.
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In reply to Prosperdick • 11:47a, 1/19/18
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It's possible. I think they just try to take down nunes over the weekend and destroy his credibility and make him the focus of it all when it comes out
I'm just not sure how difficult it is to leak SCIF documents. The fact that this is a memo and supposedly does not contain classified information might make it easier to "sneak out" but I'm just not familiar with those protocols.

That might be the one thing keeping it from leaking.
You're not going to just pull a Sandy Berger in a SCIF environment. No electronics and the door is guarded. It's not just laying out on a table in some room. There will be a certified document bearer there to show you the document, let to read it and that's it. You aren't going to be walking out or making copies.
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11:47a, 1/19/18
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I hope it doesn't leak. Let the House declassify it. Keep everything on the up and up and don't give the press anything to attack.
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11:50a, 1/19/18


If this is true...I would love to be a fly on the wall.

Edit: Listening to Limbaugh in the background -- he just confirmed the above.
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In reply to Tailgate88 • 11:50a, 1/19/18
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I hope it doesn't leak. Let the House declassify it. Keep everything on the up and up and don't give the press anything to attack.
the press has really gone after and attacked leakers the last 14 months. been very stringent about it.
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In reply to Tailgate88 • 11:50a, 1/19/18
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I hope it doesn't leak. Let the House declassify it. Keep everything on the up and up and don't give the press anything to attack.
Exactly. It's comical that people don't see the reasoning behind the POTUS not stepping in and releasing documents. The IG and the IC have a process. If the POTUS so much as tweets about something the lying left start screaming obstruction. If he stepped in and got directly involved the left will have a talking point for obstruction for months.

When you are not guilty you let the process play out. This four page memo summarizing the IG raw evidence, will just be the preamble to the IG report. Schiff and company are already trying to challenge the veracity of it without even viewing it. You think it's an accident that straight down the party line they refused to view it? They can try to ignore it to buy time, but they know what's coming.

The IG report will be the death toll of them, because then their denials come home to roost. Grassley will file a stack of criminal referrals and the AG will take it from there. Deals will be cut, grand juries will be backlogged and left is going to be in trouble, because they defended this behavior for years. Wray is going to be tasked with restoring the faith in the FBI. It's going to be tough, radical ideologs have succeeded in destroying democracy, which was their goal to begin with, and a bunch of their lackys are going to do the time for it.

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11:50a, 1/19/18
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If the dems claim it's all bogus, just tell them we'll take it to a grand jury for some of the worst actors and get a referral to prosecute. Then do it!
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In reply to RoscoePColtrane • 11:51a, 1/19/18
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RoscoePColtrane said:
Tailgate88 said:
I hope it doesn't leak. Let the House declassify it. Keep everything on the up and up and don't give the press anything to attack.
Exactly. It's comical that people don't see the reasoning behind the POTUS not stepping in and releasing documents. The IG and the IC have a process. If the POTUS so much as tweets about something the lying left start screaming obstruction. If he stepped in and got directly involved the left will have a talking point for obstruction for months.

When you are not guilty you let the process play out. This four page memo summarizing the IG raw evidence, will just be the preamble to the IG report. Schiff and company are already trying to challenge the veracity of it without even viewing it. You think it's an accident that straight down the party line they refused to view it? They can try to ignore it to buy time, but they know what's coming.

The IG report will be the death toll of them, because then their denials come home to roost. Grassley will file a stack of criminal referrals and the AG will take it from there. Deals will be cut, grand juries will be backlogged and left is going to be in trouble, because they defended this behavior for years. Wray is going to be tasked with restoring the faith in the FBI. It's going to be tough, radical ideologs have succeeded in destroying democracy, which was their goal to begin with, and a bunch of their lackys are going to do the time for it.

This.
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In reply to RoscoePColtrane • 11:52a, 1/19/18
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RoscoePColtrane said:
friscodick said:
GCP12 said:
It's possible. I think they just try to take down nunes over the weekend and destroy his credibility and make him the focus of it all when it comes out
I'm just not sure how difficult it is to leak SCIF documents. The fact that this is a memo and supposedly does not contain classified information might make it easier to "sneak out" but I'm just not familiar with those protocols.

That might be the one thing keeping it from leaking.
You're not going to just pull a Sandy Berger in a SCIF environment. No electronics and the door is guarded. It's not just laying out on a table in some room. There will be a certified document bearer there to show you the document, let to read it and that's it. You aren't going to be walking out or making copies.
this. My SiL works in a SCIF environment at the DoD and has a clearance that required the full SSBI (took over a year to complete). You can't exactly just walk into the secured area and start taking shots of documents with an iPhone.
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11:56a, 1/19/18
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Access to SCIFs is normally limited to those individuals with appropriate security clearances.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility#cite_note-1][1][/url] Non-cleared personnel in SCIFs must be under the constant oversight of cleared personnel and all classified information and material removed from view in order to prevent unauthorized access.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility#cite_note-2][2][/url] As part of this process, non-cleared personnel are also typically required to surrender all recording, photographic and other electronic media devices.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility#cite_note-3][3][/url] All of the activity and conversation inside is presumed restricted from public disclosure.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility
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12:02p, 1/19/18
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Should any of this really be all that surprising? Remember "FileGate" back in the Clinton years?? Dems are a treasonous bunch...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_FBI_files_controversy
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In reply to (removed:110205) • 12:03p, 1/19/18
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Handy flowchart of the entire scandal in the link. The flowchart can be downloaded from there.

Burn them all!
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In reply to drcrinum • 12:15p, 1/19/18
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If this is true...I would love to be a fly on the wall.

Edit: Listening to Limbaugh in the background -- he just confirmed the above.

They better not be cutting a deal. These people need to be DESTROYED. Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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In reply to stetson • 12:16p, 1/19/18
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That is about the shutdown.
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In reply to stetson • 12:23p, 1/19/18
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stetson said:
drcrinum said:


If this is true...I would love to be a fly on the wall.

Edit: Listening to Limbaugh in the background -- he just confirmed the above.

They better not be cutting a deal. These people need to be DESTROYED. Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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In reply to leftcoastaggie • 12:27p, 1/19/18
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That has to do with the shutdown. Not the fake dossier and the Mueller employee texting his mistress anti trump stuff.
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12:27p, 1/19/18
I don't think so. Over the past year Trump has proven time and again that he is a conservative POTUS. I doubt he will betray his base, especially when he holds the upper hand.
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In reply to backintexas2013 • 12:33p, 1/19/18
backintexas2013 said:
That has to do with the shutdown. Not the fake dossier and the Mueller employee texting his mistress anti trump stuff.





I don't think so. Schumer is going to be schooled in the art of the deal...and I think the Memo and the OIG Report are going to figure 'bigley' in the negotiations.
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In reply to 93MarineHorn • 12:34p, 1/19/18
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I don't think so. Over the past year Trump has proven time and again that he is a conservative POTUS. I doubt he will betray his base, especially when he holds the upper hand.
Exactly. He as them over a barrel. Siding with illegals over the protection of the homeland is a loser, politically. Shumer's political party is about to face some serious criminal charges.

The timing on this is working out perfectly, and I don't think that is a coincidence.
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In reply to drcrinum • 12:39p, 1/19/18
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Anyone still think it's a coincidence that straight down the party line they refused to view it? They can try to ignore it to buy time, but they know what's coming.
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In reply to RoscoePColtrane • 12:42p, 1/19/18
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RoscoePColtrane said:
drcrinum said:

Anyone still think it's a coincidence that straight down the party line they refused to view it? They can try to ignore it to buy time, but they know what's coming.
This is the best argument for releasing it, so that all of Congress can make educated decisions and have answers for their constituencies.
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In reply to RoscoePColtrane • 12:43p, 1/19/18
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RoscoePColtrane said:
drcrinum said:

Anyone still think it's a coincidence that straight down the party line they refused to view it? They can try to ignore it to buy time, but they know what's coming.
Democrats right now:

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12:45p, 1/19/18
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Whoa. Buck is not really the guy to just push bull **** and he's a former intelligence guy
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In reply to GCP12 • 12:49p, 1/19/18
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Whoa. Buck is not really the guy to just push bull **** and he's a former intelligence guy
Boom.
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12:50p, 1/19/18

House declassification process is an IC vote, majority rules, and if there is no objection from the Executive Branch in five working days the documents can be released in the form agreed upon, whether that be a redacted version or unredacted. SO unless the IC has already voted, the clock has 5 days on it once that happens. Some are getting out over their skis
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In reply to GCP12 • 12:50p, 1/19/18
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GCP12 said:

Whoa. Buck is not really the guy to just push bull **** and he's a former intelligence guy
Sure hope so.
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In reply to boulderaggie • 12:50p, 1/19/18
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I'm still in wait and see. Been burned so many times. But, that is not exactly CTH or True pundit saying something. He rarely even talks about rumors and stuff like this.
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In reply to GCP12 • 12:54p, 1/19/18
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GCP12 said:
I'm still in wait and see. Been burned so many times. But, that is not exactly CTH or True pundit saying something. He rarely even talks about rumors and stuff like this.
Same here. We have all had the football jerked away from us at the last second a few too many times.

God I hope it is true though.
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12:58p, 1/19/18
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Exactly what news is Buck talking about?
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1:00p, 1/19/18
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Tick, Tick, Tick....Boom?
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In reply to Rockdoc • 1:04p, 1/19/18
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Rockdoc said:
Exactly what news is Buck talking about?
He didn't clarify, but knowing his background and the context (Not shutdown) I'd be shocked if he wasn't talking about the memo.
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1:11p, 1/19/18
The House is supposed to be out of session next week.

I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of movement on this while they are gone.

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