Jordan needs to stay the course. That dossier is the key to this entire ordeal.

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Jordan needs to stay the course. That dossier is the key to this entire ordeal.

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-dossier-author-was-in-contact-with-obama-justice-department/article/2642930

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Byron York: Dossier author was in contact with Obama Justice Department

The department's Bruce Ohr, a career official, served as associate deputy attorney general at the time of the campaign. That placed him just below the deputy attorney general, Sally Yates, who ran the day-to-day operations of the department. In 2016, Ohr's office was just steps away from Yates, who was later fired for defying President Trump's initial travel ban executive order and still later became a prominent anti-Trump voice upon leaving the Justice Department.

Unbeknownst to investigators until recently, Ohr knew Steele and had repeated contacts with Steele when Steele was working on the dossier. Ohr also met after the election with Glenn Simpson, head of Fusion GPS, the opposition research company that was paid by the Clinton campaign to compile the dossier.

Word that Ohr met with Steele and Simpson, first reported by Fox News' James Rosen and Jake Gibson, was news to some current officials in the Justice Department. Shortly after learning it, they demoted Ohr, taking away his associate deputy attorney general title and moving him full time to another position running the department's organized crime drug enforcement task forces....

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., whose investigation has led to a number of revelations about the dossier, was unhappy to learn about such a key piece of information months after the investigation began. Ohr's contacts with Steele and Simpson were covered by a subpoena Nunes issued to the FBI and the Justice Department on Aug. 24. Yet as recently as Tuesday, when Nunes, along with House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., met with deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, the department said nothing about Ohr's role.

"Pursuant to the House Intelligence Committee's prior subpoenas and information requests, the Department of Justice should have provided the committee with information on contacts that DOJ official Bruce Ohr had with Fusion GPS representatives and Christopher Steele," Nunes said in a statement Thursday. "The committee will issue a subpoena to Bruce Ohr for information on this matter."

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I think Nunes & Co. are also thinking that Ohr was on the Strzok team which petitioned for the FISA warrants to spy on the Trump Campaign. Why DOJ has tried to hide this info is still puzzling, unless it is involved with an active investigation.

Above is a tweet thread (sorry it's not yet on threadreader) which provides the intersections of DOJ/FBI/NSA persons and timelines which strongly points to Contreras being the FISA judge who granted the warrants to spy on the Trump Campaign.

GCP12 said:

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Jordan needs to stay the course. That dossier is the key to this entire ordeal.

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Where is he from?

BenFiasco14 said:

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GCP12 said:

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Jordan needs to stay the course. That dossier is the key to this entire ordeal.

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Where is he from?

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R-Ohio.

I saw this several hours ago in a retweet, but I was hesitant to post it because there was no supporting info. Now I've come across more retweets as this is being spread around. Still no supporting info, so I would consider it to fall into the category of rumor mill.

I have a hard time believing that one. I don't think they're that dumb

GCP12 said:

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I have a hard time believing that one. I don't think they're that dumb

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They are that dumb because they are supremely arrogant and think the law doesn't apply to their kind.

Jim Jordan = House Freedom Caucus

It's as wrong as it gets, and it is subversion of everything about this country. Of the people, of the government, of the electoral process, of the Constitution. Anyone who took part in such a ruse should face a Federal firing squad for his actions. It's that serious.

We need answers, and people need to begin suffering consequences for their actions. People who unmasked names, people who handled the dossier. The full weight of the law needs to come down on their heads, and no punishment should be off the table.

If evidence can be produced that shows a conspiracy by federal employees built on lies (willful intent) to undermine a candidate for federal office, is that a crime? Or is that just called being a Democrat?

The libs keep trying to call Trump's admin as banana republic. Well guess what, they really were running a banana republic for the past 8 years and did their best to keep it going.

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If evidence can be produced that shows a conspiracy by federal employees built on lies (willful intent) to undermine a candidate for federal office, is that a crime? Or is that just called being a Democrat?

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Is there a difference anymore?

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If evidence can be produced that shows a conspiracy by federal employees built on lies (willful intent) to undermine a candidate for federal office, is that a crime? Or is that just called being a Democrat?

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I seriously cannot wait to see how the establishment and media try to rationalize this. And I say establishment, because there is zero chance that some Republicans weren't in on it...

If nobody goes to jail, nobody learns, nothing changes.

There is a very interesting tidbit here:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/08/the-big-ugly-why-u-s-district-court-judge-rudolph-contreras-recusal-from-mike-flynn-case-is-a-big-deal/#more-143172

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THE BIG UGLY Why U.S. District Court Judge Rudolph Contreras Recusal From Mike Flynn Case is a Big Deal

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I would particularly draw your attention to the timeline as Comey describes (counterintelligence investigation beginning in July 2016); and also to pay attention to the person Comey assigns responsibility for keeping congress out of the loop on oversight. Comey points to the DOJ's National Security Division Head who is in charge of the counterintelligence operations, Bill Priestap. However, Comey doesn't use Priestap's name:

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"it's usually the decision of the head of our counterintelligence division".

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Everything happens in the first THREE MINUTES:

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So Priestap doesn't brief Congress about the counterintelligence operation against the Trump Campaign...because it is 'too sensitive' per Comey. (Who does Priestap work for? McCabe, Comey's Deputy.) Who is Priestap's right hand man? Strzok! Who is the point man regarding Steele and the dossier? Strzok. Who interviews Flynn and ensnares him in a lie? Strzok & Priestap!!!

It's a 4-man FBI hit squad, plotting to take down the Trump Campaign/Presidency. Add one more player, Page, McCabe's assistant, who seems to play the role of courier (& mistress), and you have all the players on the FBI team.

And two of these players, Strzok & Page, are made members of Team Mueller...just a coincidence.

So, potential FBI criminal activity is 'classified'?

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So Priestap doesn't brief Congress about the counterintelligence operation against the Trump Campaign...because it is 'too sensitive' per Comey. (Who does Priestap work for? McCabe, Comey's Deputy.) Who is Priestap's right hand man? Strzok! Who is the point man regarding Steele and the dossier? Strzok. Who interviews Flynn and ensnares him in a lie? Strzok & Priestap!!!

It's a 4-man FBI hit squad, plotting to take down the Trump Campaign/Presidency. Add one more player, Page, McCabe'sassistant, who seems to play the role of courier (& mistress), and you have all the players on the FBI team.

And two of these players, Strzok & Page, are made members of Team Mueller...just a coincidence.

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Holy chit!

Mueller either is stupid and assembled a hit squad that seems to be easily outed or he's conducting the greatest sting operation ever.

New item on Weissmann. He's not biased at all...

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I have a hard time believing that one. I don't think they're that dumb

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Stzok (sp?) was dumb enough to tweet to his mistress much less tweet items that got him demoted to HR.

I still want all 10,000 released even if they are private. Dumb enough to do it on a government phone you deserve it.

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GCP12 said:

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I have a hard time believing that one. I don't think they're that dumb

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Stzok (sp?) was dumb enough to tweet to his mistress much less tweet items that got him demoted to HR.

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Yeah, I know. But, discussing bias is a little different than actually discussing the conspiracy to take him down. Trust me, I am open to that being what this was from the beginning, I just can't see these people actually sending it in a text while Trump is running the NSA

This chap is claiming that Strzok was sending e-mails about Mueller Team meetings to McCabe. If true, this is damning proof of an FBI conspiracy.


May be related to the following:

Watch the video as Congressman Jordan goes after Wray about Strzok. Multiple times Wray refuses to answer any questions related to Strzok and the FISA warrant using the Trump dossier.

yes, he appropriately refused to answer in that setting

BMX Bandit said:

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yes, he appropriately refused to answer in that setting

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...and by doing so, both men delivered a telling message on the subject.

One - basically stating he likely knows the truth about the matter and the other, it can't be revealed yet and not under these circumstances.

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yes, he appropriately refused to answer in that setting

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True. The FISA program has Congressional Oversight but it is almost exclusively in closed sessions.

I do have to wonder though. Who does Wray turn to to effectuate the arrests of multiple FBI agents? U.S. Marshals??

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BMX Bandit said:

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yes, he appropriately refused to answer in that setting

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True. The FISA program has Congressional Oversight but it is almost exclusively in closed sessions.

I do have to wonder though. Who does Wray turn to to effectuate the arrests of multiple FBI agents? U.S. Marshals??

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What about military and try them in military court?

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BMX Bandit said:

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yes, he appropriately refused to answer in that setting

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True. The FISA program has Congressional Oversight but it is almost exclusively in closed sessions.

I do have to wonder though. Who does Wray turn to to effectuate the arrests of multiple FBI agents? U.S. Marshals??

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If so...that would be quite the epic/historic scene for US History books! Does it qualify for prosecution for "treasonous acts" against the US Government?

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aggiehawg said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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yes, he appropriately refused to answer in that setting

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True. The FISA program has Congressional Oversight but it is almost exclusively in closed sessions.

I do have to wonder though. Who does Wray turn to to effectuate the arrests of multiple FBI agents? U.S. Marshals??

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What about military and try them in military court?

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Jurisdictional issues trying US citizen civilians in a military court.

If needed, there's plenty of FBI agents that could arrest other agents.

(I'd say the safe money is it not being needed)

Actual reference article:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/08/head-house-intelligence-panel-finds-evidence-abuse-in-us-government-surveillance.html

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Head of House intelligence panel finds evidence of abuse in US government surveillance

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told Fox News on Friday that his investigators have already uncovered evidence of "abuse" in the U.S. government's surveillance practices.

"I believe there's evidence that abuses have occurred," Nunes said in his first interview since the House Ethics Committee dismissed allegations he had wrongly released classified information as part of the panel's Russia investigation.

"We have had an ongoing investigation into DOJ [Department of Justice] and FBI since mid-summer for both FISA [Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court] abuse and other matters that we can't get into too much. But it is very concerning."

Nunes pointed to the leaked conversation of former national security adviser, Gen. Mike Flynn with the Russian ambassador. The congressman said he is unaware of any leak investigation by the FBI or Justice Department.

Nunes said he will call Justice Department official Bruce Ohr, whose apparent demotion was first reported by Fox's James Rosen, over his contacts with the firm behind the Trump dossier -- to testify. The congressman said he believes the Obama Justice Department from Attorney General Lynch, to her deputy, Sally Yates,
FBI Director Comey as well as FBI agent Peter Strzok who was fired by the Mueller Russia probe over anti-Trump text messages -- may have valuable information.

"It's hard to believe that all of them, there was a very small circle that we're looking into the Trump dossier overall." Nunes said.

In the short term, Nunes said, the Justice Department will be providing Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and Strzok, and possibly the main handler for former British spy Christopher Steele who researched the dossier for Fusion GPS.

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The noose is tightening.