Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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titan said:


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12 days since last post. Whew.
What's the significance of that?
That this thread is about DED.
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Well pretty much any belief in the DOJ probably should be. But took it as some kind of "timer" the board has put on threads. Isn't it a thread older than six months that disappears under the new rule?
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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It's never over. Weissman hopes NY AG indictment leads to extradition fight with Florida to make Trump effectively ineligible to run in 2024.
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SPOILER ALERT!!!!


there won't be an extradition fight
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I could see the sequel being the US House appoints a commission to look into Trump a la January 6 and puts Weissman in charge though. If they can come up with a way to give him some color of authority he will absolutely use it (again).

Yes, he's just running his mouth right now, of course, and getting paid to do it, no doubt.
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nortex97 said:

It's never over. Weissman hopes NY AG indictment leads to extradition fight with Florida to make Trump effectively ineligible to run in 2024.
Weissman has lost his ever-loving mind. All of that is pure mental masturbation and a fever dream. State to state extradition doesn't work that way. Although the underlying indictment is a state one and not federal, the U.S. Marshals are authorized to effect arrests in other states.
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And if any state would blow-off an improperly setup partisan Democrat legal over-reach right now, it is Florida.
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Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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To be fair, the SCCI is so horrible it could easily have been a GOP source there too.
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Thread on Rudy Giuliani and most of it is over my head.



Can someone put it in plain terms what Dawson is saying?

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will25u said:

Thread on Rudy Giuliani and most of it is over my head.



Can someone put it in plain terms what Dawson is saying?


Probable cause affidavit in support of the search warrant was deficient in some manner, is Rudy's allegation. (No judgment whether that is correct or not.)

They seized attorney client materials. Normal procedure is to appoint a Special Master to review everything and then for DOJ to have a separate taint team from the prosecutors to prevent contamination with illegal search materials becoming the fruit of the poisonous tree and rendering the same as inadmissible at trial.
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So not really anything interesting?
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will25u said:

So not really anything interesting?
Depends on who get appointed Special Master.

But in other news:

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The man cast as a linchpin of debunked Trump-Russia collusion theories is breaking his silence to vigorously dispute the U.S. government's effort to brand him a Russian spy and put him behind bars.

In an exclusive interview with RealClearInvestigations, Konstantin Kilimnik stated, "I have no relationship whatsoever to any intelligence services, be they Russian or Ukrainian or American, or anyone else."

Kilimnik, a longtime employee of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, spoke out in response to an explosive Treasury Department statement declaring that he had "provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy" during the 2016 election. That press release, which announced an array of sanctions on Russian nationals last month, also alleged that Kilimnik is a "known Russian Intelligence Services agent implementing influence operations on their behalf."

Treasury's claim came shortly after two other accusatory U.S. government statements about the dual Ukrainian-Russian national. In March, a U.S. Intelligence Community Assessment accused Kilimnik of being a "Russian influence agent" who meddled in the 2020 campaign to assist Trump's reelection. A month earlier, an FBI alert offered $250,000 for information leading to his arrest over a 2018 witness tampering charge in Manafort's shuttered Ukraine lobbying case, which was unrelated to Russia, collusion, or any elections.

Treasury provided no evidence for its claims, which go beyond the findings of the two most extensive Russiagate investigations: the 448-page report issued in 2019 by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and the 966-page report issued in August 2020 by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
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Treasury has declined all media requests for elaboration on how it reached conclusions that those probes did not. Two unidentified officials told NBC News that U.S. intelligence "has developed new information" about Kilimnik "that leads them to believe" (emphasis added) that he passed on the polling data to Russia. But these sources "did not identify the source or type of intelligence that had been developed," nor "when or how" it was received.

"Nobody has seen any evidence to support these claims about Kilimnik," a congressional source familiar with the House and Senate's multiple Russia-related investigations told RCI.
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Despite the absence of evidence, the Treasury press release's one-sentence claim about Kilimnik has been widely greeted as the Trump-Russia smoking gun. Rep. Adam Schiff, the California Democrat who heads the House Intelligence Committee, told MSNBC that Treasury's assertion about Kilimnik proved that Russian intelligence was "involved in trying to help Trump win in that [2016] election. That's what most people would call collusion."

Speaking to RCI in fluent English from his home in Moscow, Kilimnik, 51, described these U.S. government assertions as "senseless and false accusations."

His comments are backed up by documents, some previously unreported, as well as by Rick Gates, a longtime Manafort associate and key Mueller probe cooperating witness. (Gates pleaded guilty to making a false statement and to failing to register as a foreign agent in connection to his lobbying work in Ukraine.) The evidence raises doubts about new efforts to revive the Trump-Kremlin collusion narrative by casting Kilimnik as a central Russian figure.

"They needed a Russian to investigate 'Russia collusion,' and I happened to be that Russian," Kilimnik said.
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Highlights from the interview and RCI's related reporting:
  • Kilimnik denies passing 2016 polling data to Russian intelligence, or any Russian for that matter. Instead, Kilimnik says he shared publicly available, general information about the 2016 American presidential race to Ukrainian clients of Manafort's in a bid to recover old debts and drum up new business. Gates told RCI that the Mueller team "cherry-picked" his testimony about Kilimnik to spread a misleading, collusion-favorable narrative. The U.S. government has never publicly produced the polling data at issue, nor any evidence that it was shared with Russia.
  • Despite his centrality to the Trump-Russia saga, Kilimnik says no U.S. government official has ever tried get in touch with him. "I never had a single contact with [the] FBI or any government official," Kilimnik says.
  • Kilimnik shared documents that contradict the Special Counsel's effort to prove that he has Russian intelligence "ties." Photos and video of his Russian passport and a U.S. visa in his name, shared with RCI, undermine the Mueller report's claim that Kilimnik visited the United States on a Russian "diplomatic passport" in 1997. To judge from the images, he travelled on a civilian passport and obtained a regular U.S. visa. The Mueller team has never produced the "diplomatic passport."
  • Kilimnik denies traveling to Spain to meet Manafort in 2017. If true, this would undercut the Mueller team's claim that Manafort lied in denying such a meeting. That denial was used to help secure a 2019 court ruling that Manafort breached a cooperation agreement. The Special Counsel never furnished evidence for the alleged Madrid encounter.
  • While the Treasury Department and Senate Intelligence Committee claim that Kilimnik is a Russian intelligence officer, no U.S. security or intelligence agency has adopted this characterization.
  • Kilimnik has never been charged with anything related to espionage, Russia, collusion, or the 2016 election. Instead, the Mueller team indicted Kilimnik on witness-tampering charges in a case pertaining to Manafort's lobbying work in Ukraine.
  • Meanwhile, the FBI's $250,000 bounty for Kilimnik is larger than most rewards it offers for the capture of violent fugitives, including those accused of child murder.

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LOL, so the one tenuous example of Trump colluding with Russia was made up by team Mueller. We have some resident libs who will be very disappointed if this is true.
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All you need to know:

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Despite his centrality to the Trump-Russia saga, Kilimnik says no U.S. government official has ever tried get in touch with him. "I never had a single contact with [the] FBI or any government official," Kilimnik says.
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VegasAg86 said:

LOL, so the one tenuous example of Trump colluding with Russia was made up by team Mueller. We have some resident libs who will be very disappointed if this is true.
LOL, they don't care about truth.
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captkirk said:

All you need to know:

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Despite his centrality to the Trump-Russia saga, Kilimnik says no U.S. government official has ever tried get in touch with him. "I never had a single contact with [the] FBI or any government official," Kilimnik says.

Yep. Manafort is likely a scummy guy as are nearly all political consultants as they are essentially principleless prostitutes but he was railroaded by Mueller solely as a way to get him to lie about Trump. He was in solitary confinement for zero reason, under a gag order, etc.

Now what are we seeing with the people being "detained" over January 6th? The same. Solitary, abuse, no bail nor bond allowed and they haven't even been convicted of anything yet. How the ACLU can stand by and let these be held in contravention of their constitutional rights to due process is beyond me.
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So basically in summary:

We the FBI/DOJ are allowed to lie and fabricate evidence with ZERO repercussions because the Ends justify the Means..

You, the American people, you lie or fabricate evidence and YOU go to prison for decades because, well just because.

Rules for Thee, Not for Me.......
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Who is the judge assigned to the case?
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will25u said:


That fusion d-bag has a very punchable face
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Glenn Richard Simpson should be in a federal penitentiary.

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Evidence dribbling out now indicates "Trump Russian Collusion" was a politically designed & media propelled fabrication.


In other news, evidence dribbling out that water is wet
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will25u said:


Peter Strzok should be in jail for a very long time.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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My headline is what happened, the New York Times headline is massive spin: "Apple Is Said to Have Turned Over Data on Trump's White House Counsel in 2018".

Notice what the New York Times is doing here. Everything about their article is written to hide, obfuscate and ignore the reality of what their article actually is revealing. Look closely:



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"tactics by the Trump Justice Department"? This is far beyond spin, it is an intentional effort at cognitive dissonance. Perhaps this article is written now because the Durham investigation is going to reveal how Mueller and Weissmann conducted investigative surveillance over the Trump White House Likely, but rather than supposition let's just go to the reality of the details.

The headline positions Apple as the center, but the real nub of the revelation is that Weissmann and Mueller used the Special Counsel and FBI to conduct surveillance on the White House legal counsel, and his family, while President Donald Trump was in office. Think about that for a moment. Think about it carefully.

Imagine if Donald Trump allies in the DOJ and FBI were conducting surveillance on Joe Biden's White House legal counsel? The media would go absolutely bonkers rightfully so; yet, that is exactly what happened when Trump was in office. The intelligence apparatus was weaponized to conduct political surveillance of President Trump, through the White House legal counsel, while he was in office.

THIS IS A MASSIVE issue. Yet the media are downplaying what took place because, well, the stunning abuse of DOJ power is in alignment with their political objectives.
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Apple told Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel to former President Donald J. Trump, last month that the Justice Department had subpoenaed information about an account that belonged to him in February 2018, and that the government barred the company from telling him at the time, according to two people briefed on the matter.

Mr. McGahn's wife received a similar notice from Apple, said one of the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive matter.

It is not clear what F.B.I. agents were scrutinizing, nor whether Mr. McGahn was their specific focus. In investigations, agents sometimes compile a large list of phone numbers and email addresses that were in contact with a subject, and seek to identify all those people by using subpoenas to communications companies for any account information like names, computer addresses and credit card numbers associated with them.

Still, the disclosure that agents secretly collected data of a sitting White House counsel is striking as it comes amid a political backlash to revelations about Trump-era seizures of data of reporters and Democrats in Congress for leak investigations. The president's top lawyer is also a chief point of contact between the White House and the Justice Department.
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Obligatory: Aaaaannnd, Mueller and Weissmann and still each a POS.
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The Mueller investigation was as corrupt as it gets, he led one of the most illegal investigations in the history of this country.

Quote from the article you linked to:
" Perhaps this article is written now because the Durham investigation is going to reveal how Mueller and Weissmann conducted investigative surveillance over the Trump White House Likely, but rather than supposition let's just go to the reality of the details."

I gave up on Durham and Barr a long time ago and still don't believe either of them will accomplish anything resembling justice, sad.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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I miss Ben, wish he were still posting. Hope he's ok out there.
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