TLDR, the US Government is hypocritical and likely the most corrupt body on earth.

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I wonder if this is the same girl that the FBI had the Overstock CEO target also.

Different Russian...Butina I think and Butina went to jail/pled to being foreign agent or something like that.

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Different Russian...Butina I think and Butina went to jail/pled to being foreign agent or something like that.

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One in the same person. I know this is CNN but it does tie things together.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/politics/patrick-byrne-maria-butina-fbi-relationship-cnntv/index.html

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TLDR, the US Government is hypocritical and likely the most corrupt body on earth.

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Pretty much. It's also run by a bunch of Vindman/Ciaramella/McCabe/Strtok/Yovanovitch types, all the way up to CIA director/FBI director levels, too. Even the POTUS (a real one, let alone the senile asterisk) can't declassify ludicrous corruption because it might hurt people's feelings.

I used to think the RCC was the most corrupt body on earth, but it's got nothing compared to the US government.

LOL, look for "Durham" on twitter now and it's mostly about the cathedral in the UK.

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Nonprofit is as corruptible as anything else, but maybe this is the path forward in real journalism. I don't know. The entire saga this thread represents and its obvious lack of a just outcome, really brings me closer to the belief that this Republic is over and it's decline is not reversible.

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I too fear the pendulum has swung so far that there might be no coming back. That's what happens when the rule of law is tossed out of the window. Ultimately, that's what this thread documented in real time the decline of the rule of law.

The only 'wins' as documented in this thread I think are that (a) Flynn was pardoned and his innocence is almost universally realized behind closed doors, (b) Sullivan is taking 'senior status' (yet doing more damage despite his literally polled constituents in his final active case), and (c) perhaps most significantly that more people know now than any fake news outlet would admit the truth about the press, justice system, and electoral fraud that has occurred than would otherwise be the case without "Muellergate" or whatever you want to call it.

Did the 'deep state left' really win, because they stole an election and created a false flag reichstag fire which they now are using to further erode rights/public discourse (including private discourse/exchanges), or are they absolutely desperate, realizing they need fraud, and are losing hispanic/asian voting blocks with their racial politics, and are unlikely to be able to use mail in/dominion fraud in the future to such an extent? Their present geriatric leadership is unlikely to remain thru 2024, in either house nor of course the presidency.

I expect the backlash to energy, trade, tax, and immigration policy to absolutely deliver at least a GOP house in less than 24 months, and that ultimately the pendulum will swing back as it always has before. But I admit I am an eternal optimist once I set aside my sarcasm/cynicism/online attitude.

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Did the 'deep state left' really win, because they stole an election and created a false flag reichstag fire which they now are using to further erode rights/public discourse (including private discourse/exchanges), or are they absolutely desperate, realizing they need fraud, and are losing hispanic/asian voting blocks with their racial politics, and are unlikely to be able to use mail in/dominion fraud in the future to such an extent? Their present geriatric leadership is unlikely to remain thru 2024, in either house nor of course the presidency.

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I am still very pessimistic that the courts will act to uphold changes to state election laws that will remove the fraud we saw in 2020 on a state level.

On the federal level, I am also deeply concerned that if HB 1 is passed by both houses of Congress and signed Biden/Kamala that it would be struck down at all or if struck down, done so in a timely manner so as to prevent a repeat in 2022.

Go back and read Justice Thomas' dissent from Monday in the PA election cases. He is very critical that the Court has essentially held that election issues cannot be addressed in the courts neither before nor after the election.

That's a huge problem.

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Did the 'deep state left' really win, because they stole an election and created a false flag reichstag fire which they now are using to further erode rights/public discourse (including private discourse/exchanges), or are they absolutely desperate, realizing they need fraud, and are losing hispanic/asian voting blocks with their racial politics, and are unlikely to be able to use mail in/dominion fraud in the future to such an extent? Their present geriatric leadership is unlikely to remain thru 2024, in either house nor of course the presidency.

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I am still very pessimistic that the courts will act to uphold changes to state election laws that will remove the fraud we saw in 2020 on a state level.

On the federal level, I am also deeply concerned that if HB 1 is passed by both houses of Congress and signed Biden/Kamala that it would be struck down at all or if struck down, done so in a timely manner so as to prevent a repeat in 2022.

Go back and read Justice Thomas' dissent from Monday in the PA election cases. He is very critical that the Court has essentially held that election issues cannot be addressed in the courts neither before nor after the election.

That's a huge problem.

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I would hope there's a nationwide injunction in place if litigated, but I don't trust SCOTUS to do the right thing if it gets there.

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Did the 'deep state left' really win, because they stole an election and created a false flag reichstag fire which they now are using to further erode rights/public discourse (including private discourse/exchanges), or are they absolutely desperate, realizing they need fraud, and are losing hispanic/asian voting blocks with their racial politics, and are unlikely to be able to use mail in/dominion fraud in the future to such an extent? Their present geriatric leadership is unlikely to remain thru 2024, in either house nor of course the presidency.

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I am still very pessimistic that the courts will act to uphold changes to state election laws that will remove the fraud we saw in 2020 on a state level.

On the federal level, I am also deeply concerned that if HB 1 is passed by both houses of Congress and signed Biden/Kamala that it would be struck down at all or if struck down, done so in a timely manner so as to prevent a repeat in 2022.

Go back and read Justice Thomas' dissent from Monday in the PA election cases. He is very critical that the Court has essentially held that election issues cannot be addressed in the courts neither before nor after the election.

That's a huge problem.

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the courts have given them the green light to cheat

Biden is getting the corrupt band back together at DOJ.

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Those who have followed all of the internal research will know the name John Carlin. As noted in this text message below Carlin has returned to the DOJ and is currently Acting Deputy Attorney General inside Main Justice. Once again the corrupt DOJ is attempting to secure itself from sunlight upon prior activity, very corrupt activity.

John Carlin was the assistant attorney general and head of the National Security Division inside the DOJ when efforts against the Trump campaign and incoming administration were underway. John CarIin was previously chief of staff to FBI Director Robert Mueller.

In September of 2016 Carlin manipulated the FISA court by misleading them on the Section 702 certifications. Carlin never informed the court of FBI contractors having access to the NSA database and exporting the search results to unknown actors. The FBI was using the database to monitor 2016 political campaigns and political opposition.

Carlin announced his resignation Sept 27, 2016, the day after he filed the Government's proposed 2016 Section 702 certifications. Carlin departed the NSD October 15, 2016, five days before the Carter Page FISA was approved by the FISC.

It was John Carlin who ultimately facilitated the fraudulent FISA application against Carter Page in order to continue surveillance of the risk represented by Donald Trump. John Carlin's legal counsel in the NSD was Michael Atkinson.

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Unfreakingbelievable.

Wholly unsurprising. Not that the big guy has any recollection of what happened, but the people pulling the puppet strings are not going to allow anything to come out now, certainly.

My biggest disappointment with Trump.

TTT

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/03/18/court-guilty-verdicts-flynn-partner-turkey-lobbying-476952

Court reinstates guilty verdicts against Flynn partner over Turkey lobbying

Judge erred by tossing out jury's conclusion that Trump transition adviser Bijan Rafiekian evaded lobbying laws, appeals court rules.

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Five days before the FBI formally opened the Michael Flynn probe in summer 2016, a confidential informant alleged to agents that Donald Trump's national security adviser had left a 2014 foreign meeting alone with a Russian woman. Agents ultimately deemed the account "not plausible" and "not accurate" but proceeded to investigate Flynn anyway, newly declassified documents show.

FBI confidential human source (CHS) reports show Stefan Halper, an academic who long worked for the bureau as a trusted informant, was the original source of a story that Flynn had left a 2014 event in Cambridge, England, with the Russian scholar Svetlana Lokhova while he was still the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

The story was later leaked to the news media and became the focal point of a defamation lawsuit by Lokhova that is now on appeal. It also was listed in FBI documents as part of the reason the bureau opened a counterintelligence probe of Flynn.

Robert Luskin, a lawyer for Halper, did not return an email seeking comment Monday. Flynn and Lokhova did not immediately return calls or emails seeking comment.

The memos show Halper offered the Lokhova story during his first Russia collusion debriefing on Aug. 11, 2016, shortly after Donald Trump had accepted the Republican presidential nomination and days before the bureau opened an investigation codenamed Crossfire Razor focused on whether Flynn was wittingly or unwittingly aiding Moscow.

"The CHS relayed an incident s/he witnessed when CROSSFIRE RAZOR (CR) spoke at [redacted name of Cambridge event]. The CHS was unsure of the date, but noted that CR was still in his/her position within the USIC," the informant report relayed. "The CHS told the team that after CR spoke and socialized with [redacted] at dinner and over drinks, [redacted] got CR a cab to take CR to the train station to bring him/her to London."

The event Flynn attended in 2014 was part of the Cambridge Intelligence Seminars.

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https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/fbi-had-doubts-about-russia-informants-allegation-helped

Source documents are linked on the page above.

That's an interesting development. Wasn't Flynn definitely associated with the Q movement in some ways? It is all so confusing. Or did CNN claim he drove it or authored it in some way?

He was loosely thought to be connected. He took part in the #TakeTheOath that was started by an Anon. As well as using the hashtag #WWG1WGA.

I may have missed some other things but those are what comes to mind.

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Hope he wins.

Steven Biss filed this, so the plaintiff's chance of success is near zero.

I can't believe this is still going on.

Bump

HTownAg98 said:

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Steven Biss filed this, so the plaintiff's chance of success is near zero.

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Klayman jealous he's not on this

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Since you bumped it.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/30/politics/john-durham-investigation/index.html

After two years of searching for problems with the investigation into Donald Trump's campaign advisers in 2016 and their ties to Russia, federal prosecutor John Durham hasn't found wrongdoing by Obama-era intelligence officials involved who were outside of the FBI.

But Durham is still at work, looking at early aspects of the FBI investigation into the campaign. His relatively opaque investigation has now lasted longer than former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and prosecution of dozens of Russians and Trump advisers.

Investigators with Durham's office -- having been delayed by pandemic restrictions last year -- are now arranging witness interviews, according to people familiar with the probe. Grand jury subpoenas also were being used to gather documents in recent months, the sources said.

So two weeks?

DoJ obviously participated in the sham, and Ohr's in particular. Disgraceful how any Dem corruption is always buried.

This might be more related to "that other thread", but there was a website that was tracking the number of open federal indictments that showed numbers way above normal. Does anyone have a link to that?

TTT

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will25u said:

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Brookings Institute is a cesspool

Appears the Democratic Party leadership, DOJ, FBI. NSA, CIA and legacy media will not be held accountable.

We know several people openly lied as their statements, some under oath, contradicted other people's statements so lying did occur. The leadership in government and the bureaucracy is destroying the Constitution from within.