Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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ccatag said:

Who from the Department of Justice signed the first Carter Page FISA application?
Yates. She also signed the first application for renewal.
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Get out of here with that supposition based on fact and logic!

Based on some of the crap I see and hear from the Dems, it honestly wouldn't surprise me in the least for the Dems to trot out talking points that Trump is responsible for all of Spygate and the Mueller fiasco! Only to be gloriously regurgitated here by someone.
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https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/14/stefan-halper-subpoena-spygate-ron-johnson-senate-homeland-security/

He intends to subpoena a long list of the plotters, but this is the first time I can remember where Halper was fingered.
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Bolton in trouble?

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The Department of Justice (DOJ) has launched a criminal investigation into whether former White House national security adviser John Bolton illegally disclosed classified information in his memoir that was released earlier this year, The New York Times reported Tuesday.

The agency has reportedly convened a grand jury and subpoenaed Bolton's publisher, Simon & Schuster, for records related to communications surrounding the tell-all book, "The Room Where It Happened."

A formal probe would mark a dramatic escalation over the book, which the White House sought to temporarily block from publication earlier this year, arguing it contained classified information. Bolton's book also painted the Trump administration in an unflattering light including details of infighting and the president's foreign policy.
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aggiehawg said:

Bolton in trouble?

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The Department of Justice (DOJ) has launched a criminal investigation into whether former White House national security adviser John Bolton illegally disclosed classified information in his memoir that was released earlier this year, The New York Times reported Tuesday.

The agency has reportedly convened a grand jury and subpoenaed Bolton's publisher, Simon & Schuster, for records related to communications surrounding the tell-all book, "The Room Where It Happened."

A formal probe would mark a dramatic escalation over the book, which the White House sought to temporarily block from publication earlier this year, arguing it contained classified information. Bolton's book also painted the Trump administration in an unflattering light including details of infighting and the president's foreign policy.
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If he hasn't lawyered up, he needs to......the administration tried to block the book for a reason (it seems).
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I'm just happy they are empaneling grand juries again.
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aggiehawg said:

I'm just happy they are empaneling grand juries again.
Gotta be thankful for the little things.

Replying to subpoenas these days seems to be a matter of mood from the recipient, what happens if Simon and Schuster says "kiss mine"?
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fasthorse05 said:

aggiehawg said:

I'm just happy they are empaneling grand juries again.
Gotta be thankful for the little things.

Replying to subpoenas these days seems to be a matter of mood from the recipient, what happens if Simon and Schuster says "kiss mine"?
Motion to Compel then contempt of court proceedings.
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https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/09/15/what-the-mueller-prosecutors-deleted-from-their-phones-just-a-theory/

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.....My GUESS -- and its 100% speculation -- is that the discovery of the incriminating text messages between Strzok and Page, leading to Strzok's removal from the investigation, was a "light bulb" moment for members of the SCO. They realized that they had no expectation of privacy in their communications with each other, and all the communications over their phones would be captured by normal DOJ procedures. Since the SCO operated outside normal DOJ oversight, I suspect that one or more of the more technologically literate among the SCO prosecutors suggested they install third-party apps such as Signal or WhatsApp to conduct secure text messaging outside DOJ monitoring......

Another interesting read from Shipwreckedcrew...the likely reason Weissmann & Company wiped their phones...to hide the fact they were communicating outside official DOJ channels. Obviously such activity would have been against regulations/guidelines, but would it have been illegal or grounds for dismissal from government employment?
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It depends on their intent.
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TTT

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Straight ****ing Coup
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How clean is Trump if the most corrupt investigative team ever couldn't find anything in 2 years? How many politicians could withstand that level of scrutiny?
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VegasAg86 said:

How clean is Trump if the most corrupt investigative team ever couldn't find anything in 2 years? How many politicians could withstand that level of scrutiny?
Truly shows how ridiculously dumb Adam Schiff is for his continuing his efforts to bring him down.
Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but upon what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force! But Jesus Christ founded His upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. - Napoleon Bonaparte
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The FBI must be abolished. Good piece today;

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By his smartly dressed appearance, one would never know Peter Strzok wasn't still a senior FBI agent. He looked to be straight out of central casting as he began his "Meet the Press" interview on Sunday with this book-promoting slander, "I think it is clear, I believed at the time in 2016, and I continue to believe, that Donald Trump is compromised by the Russians. And when I say that, I mean that they hold leverage over him that makes him incapable of placing the national interests, the national security ahead of his own."

Nothing is more sleazy and corrupt than a current or former FBI agent implicitly claiming to have access to secret evidence of a target's guilt when the time to produce such evidence has long since passed.

Imagine that you've just weathered four years of an FBI investigation during which the press consistently published character-assassinating falsehoods attributed to "people familiar with the investigation." Your enemies, who personally hate you, launch the investigative team with unlimited manpower and money and staff it with political opponents. Federal agents entrap your allies in process crimes, coerce a plea by threatening a man's family, repeatedly deceive a court to conduct intrusive surveillance, steal thousands of emails without a warrant, and deliberately prolong the investigation despite knowing from day one that you are innocent.

Fortunately, the FBI has compromised its ability to interfere in the 2020 election. Had the FBI worked to punish and expel the miscreants who perpetrated the Russian collusion hoax, it might have recovered enough credibility to make another go of it. As I recently wrote, only political opportunists will choose to believe the FBI the next time it cries wolf over Trump. While some hope that Special Counsel John Durham's probe will finally yield a full accounting of the FBI and Justice Department's abuses of power, close observers have reasons to be skeptical.
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Kevin Clinesmith appears to have been the sacrificial lamb intended to delay any comprehensive accountability long enough to determine whether a Harris Administrationexcuse me, a Biden Administration will sweep it all under the rug to renew the Left's love affair with the American KGB. The Justice Department effectively is in charge of whether their own people will be charged. Immunity from the laws they enforce is one of the perks of the job. Why would they give that up?

The larger question is whether American constitutional democracy can continue to coexist with a lawless secret police that targets innocent people. Virtually all countries have paper constitutions with unenforced liberties. Those rights only mean something when the guys with the badges and guns are held to account for trampling those principles.

The rise of the FBI as a power-center comes at the direct expense of those liberties in America. Our elected leaders fear the FBI and its power to make an innocent person seem guilty. What difference does an election make if the FBI can control the elected, regardless of party? Whatever law-enforcement benefit we derive from the FBI's "protection," it's coming at a very heavy cost to our freedoms.
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It's not stupidity...it's self preservation.
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Isn't this a tad late?



another.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-homeland-security-committee-authorizes-subpoenas-for-testimony-from-obama-officials-as-part-of-russia-probe
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Another one.
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Explanation for dummies like me?
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drcrinum said:



Another one.

Hmmmm...

I wonder if when this army of high powered lawyers and solicitors stand before Sullivan that he wets himself...
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Sullivan (and his clerks) are severely outwitted now. That motion doesn't get filed unless the solicitor general is serious about appealing whatever shenanigans he engages in, in a couple weeks.

Unless he's planning to retire, it would be crazy for him to push this much further. But, he's already be-clowned himself so whatever, at this point. I do hope let's it go so it's over by Nov. 3.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gina-haspel-warned-durham-inquiry-would-be-a-nightmare-for-cia-woodward-book

Gee, if there's a clean sheet, why worry?
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Absolutely. This reinforces one of the points in the post I linked to above today. The FBI/CIA leadership/managers way too often consider themselves immune, from any abuse/prosecutions, or even oversight vs. the rest of the country's citizens. This perspective is in opposite view vs. the constitution's basic outlook/position.

And, I'd add, Gina Haspel isn't "the enemy" to my mind, but rather a Trump appointee who is/was just absorbed into the culture of her executive agency.

Ultimately, accountability is what is absolutely needed, and I see...essentially none of it, based on Stzrok's latest media tour Sunday.
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That's assuming Woodward's book is accurate.
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nortex97 said:

Sullivan (and his clerks) are severely outwitted now. That motion doesn't get filed unless the solicitor general is serious about appealing whatever shenanigans he engages in, in a couple weeks.

Unless he's planning to retire, it would be crazy for him to push this much further. But, he's already be-clowned himself so whatever, at this point. I do hope let's it go so it's over by Nov. 3.
Tend to agree. Barr seems to be expecting this issue goes to SCOTUS at some point.

We'll see which type of wacky minute order Sullivan enters after this new development.
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drcrinum said:



Another one.

They are about to.....


I hope.
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Rockdoc said:

Explanation for dummies like me?
Me too?
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richardag said:

Rockdoc said:

Explanation for dummies like me?
Me too?
Line prosecutors are filing their entry of appearance in time for the next hearing. Barr is sending in a large team to complement Sidney.
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Line prosecutors are filing their entry of appearance in time for the next hearing. Barr is sending in a large team to complement Sidney.
Mooppan is former Assistant Solicitor - an appellate specialist with some fantastic experience.
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Rockdoc said:

Explanation for dummies like me?

Barr's bringing in a team of bad a--es to reinforce Sidney against Sullivan.

Basically, the DOJ is saying "enough of your BS, Sullivan, let's dance."

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Aggie Jurist said:

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Line prosecutors are filing their entry of appearance in time for the next hearing. Barr is sending in a large team to complement Sidney.
Mooppan is former Assistant Solicitor - an appellate specialist with some fantastic experience.
Like I said before, Barr is willing to push this separation of powers issue to SCOTUS and is getting that team assembled to do it if necessary. Also means Bar doesn't have any faith that Sullivan will actually grant the MTD.
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aggiehawg said:

richardag said:

Rockdoc said:

Explanation for dummies like me?
Me too?
Line prosecutors are filing their entry of appearance in time for the next hearing. Barr is sending in a large team to complement Sidney.
Thank you for the explanation.
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Solicitor general's office argues on behalf of the United States at the Supreme Court.

That NOA is what we call a "shot across the bow."

This is going to SCOTUS and the 'A' team is in the game.
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