I'm fairly certain we never will.
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Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts
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VaultingChemist said:This was posted on 1/13/2017. Little did we know how low this group would go to cover up their illegal activities to retain power.Quote:
Wonder what this group will do.....
This picture is worth a thousand words and a few indictments, hopefully.
I know if I were prosecuting them I'd have that pic of those **** faced traitorous
Scumbag **********s posted in front of the jury all day long.
Obamunist Marie Harf claiming the Flynn investigation was appropriate getting roasted by Lara Logan.
Maroon and White always!
EKU/TAMU
Van Grack thought he was home free when Flynn took the plea dealaggiehawg said:This will be the acid test for Sullivan. He has ample grounds to hammer Van Grack and has had ample grounds to hammer him for quite some time, IMO. After all of this has been revealed, what will he do? Keep his DC Cocktail circuit friends happy? Or do what he has stated is his duty?Quote:
In 2017, Judge Sullivan wrote in the WSJ that "Judges have a responsibility to take action against unethical prosecutors."
Lara Logan is amazing, so smart and articulate. My heart will always go out to her because of her assault during the Arab Spring.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/08/obama-biden-oval-office-meeting-on-january-5-was-key-to-entire-anti-trump-operation/
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.....January 5: Yates, Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper briefed Obama on Russia-related matters in the Oval Office. Biden and Rice also attended. After the Obama briefing, the intelligence chiefs who would be leaving at the end of the term were dismissed and Yates and Comey, who would continue in the Trump administration, were asked to stay. Not only did Obama give his guidance about how to perpetuate the Russia collusion theory investigations, he also talked about Flynn's conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, according to both Comey and Yates. Interestingly, Clapper, Comey, and Yates all said that they did not brief Obama about these phone calls. Clapper testified he did not brief Obama on the calls, Yates learned about the calls from Obama himself during that meeting, and Comey also testified he didn't brief Obama about the calls, even though the intelligence was an FBI product....
How did Obama know about Flynn's telephone conversations with Kislyak? Who was his connection in the FBI? Or is Comey/Clapper lying again?
Valerie Jarrettdrcrinum said:
https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/08/obama-biden-oval-office-meeting-on-january-5-was-key-to-entire-anti-trump-operation/Quote:
.....January 5: Yates, Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper briefed Obama on Russia-related matters in the Oval Office. Biden and Rice also attended. After the Obama briefing, the intelligence chiefs who would be leaving at the end of the term were dismissed and Yates and Comey, who would continue in the Trump administration, were asked to stay. Not only did Obama give his guidance about how to perpetuate the Russia collusion theory investigations, he also talked about Flynn's conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, according to both Comey and Yates. Interestingly, Clapper, Comey, and Yates all said that they did not brief Obama about these phone calls. Clapper testified he did not brief Obama on the calls, Yates learned about the calls from Obama himself during that meeting, and Comey also testified he didn't brief Obama about the calls, even though the intelligence was an FBI product....
How did Obama know about Flynn's telephone conversations with Kislyak? Who was his connection in the FBI? Or is Comey/Clapper lying again?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
I'm sure Brennan was somehow involved as well.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
EKUAg said:
Obamunist Marie Harf claiming the Flynn investigation was appropriate getting roasted by Lara Logan.
lol, that was awesome. I love Lara, she's great. Harf is dumber than a box of rocks.
She is actually dumber than any single rock.
Topic: Schiff
Gowdy on Sean Hannity said "I have a very low bar for Adam Schiff. He still doesn't meet the bar."
Gowdy on Sean Hannity said "I have a very low bar for Adam Schiff. He still doesn't meet the bar."
I was disappointed to hear Shifty has immunity. How's that?
Immunity in what sense? On the floor? Yes. Otherwise, no.
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
VegasAg86 said:EKUAg said:
Obamunist Marie Harf claiming the Flynn investigation was appropriate getting roasted by Lara Logan.
lol, that was awesome. I love Lara, she's great. Harf is dumber than a box of rocks.
Guess which one is Lara and which one Harf.
We have some more detail on this now.Rapier108 said:Some Republicans wanted Trump gone.TexAgs91 said:
This is all coming out now as documents are being declassified. But most of this was known back in 2017 thanks to people like John Solomon and Sarah Carter's reporting. And didn't people in Congress have access to these classified documents? Although I know Republicans in the House asked over and over again for the document that initiated the special counsel. The DOJ refused to give it to Congress which has oversight over the DOJ. I blame the Republicans as well on this. They should have known what was going on and they should have stopped the special counsel and held Rosenstein in contempt.
Others were terrified that if they defended him, and it turned out the accusations were true, they would be toast as well.
Many were just gutless like always and didn't want to be attacked by the media, nor lose their place on the D.C. cocktail circuit.
Gaetz was on Hannity tonight. He says Nunez, Meadows, Jordan and himself asked for subpoena power, it was Paul Ryan and Trey Gowdy that wouldn't give them the subpoena power.
We know Paul Ryan was a gutless RINO and a snake, but what about Trey Gowdy? He didn't seem to me like a gutless RINO and snake at all, but yet in this instance, he acted like exactly that. I'm glad he's out too.
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
Gaetz also criticized Gowdy for saying the FBI behaved exactly how we should want them to.
He has immunity when performing formal duties as a member of Congress. That's why he and House Mgrs could lie with impunity during the Senate impeachment trial.Pinche Abogado said:
Immunity in what sense? On the floor? Yes. Otherwise, no.
ETA, I think that's why only House Members spoke for the "prosecution", couldn't risk having someone with perjury risk actually talking.
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Is tweeting a formal duty? Is speaking with reporters a formal duty?
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
Yup. I remember when Gowdy was inexplicably praising the FBI back when we were finding out about all their bias and corruption. He seemed like he had idolized the FBI ever since he was playing FBI agent as a kid and just could not accept what was clear to every other republican (except Ryan)VegasAg86 said:
Gaetz also criticized Gowdy for saying the FBI behaved exactly how we should want them to.
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
I don't know the answer to that. I can make arguments both ways, based on whether or not communicating with their constituents is implied as a duty in the constitution.Pinche Abogado said:
Is tweeting a formal duty? Is speaking with reporters a formal duty?
My point was, the immunity is more than just on the floor of their chamber.
PatentMike, J.D.
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MS Molecular Virology
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Possibly. But, at some point, formal duty is superseded by personal agenda.
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
ccatag said:
I get a chuckle every time I read about Peter Strozk and Lisa Page and their extramarital affair. As in the long post aggiehawg made near the top of this pageQuote:
The new Flynn documents shed light on what happened during the unusual three weeks composing the 302. They include texts between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, who were communicating extensively during an extramarital affair in interchanges revealing anti-Trump bias and resulting in their later dismissal from Mueller's investigation.
It's got to be humiliating for them. Seriously, I have no empathy. I do laugh. I find it funny that someone inserts that little description of them in articles and reports. It happens quite often.
Anyway, when are we going to see all of their texts? Unabridged. Comprehensive.
I assume we are only still getting the edited version of their texts.
This hoax needs to show the depth of their depravity and immorality.
Turn it up! Bring it!
Do you think these progressive types who always see themselves as the stereotypical freedom fighter against "the man" will ever realize they have become the bad guy, the bully, the tyrants? Is it possible for them to ever comprehend it?
Pinche Abogado said:
Is tweeting a formal duty? Is speaking with reporters a formal duty?
No, but you are also not under oath when you talk to the press and tweet. That POS lies all the time, but he's never under oath, you don't need immunity to lie to the press, just a complete lack of ethics.
People are prosecuted every day for crimes committed while they are not under oath.
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
Schiff lies because it's like a bodily function to him and he knows that the only entities that could possibly hold him to account are the press (laughable) and the voters in his district (again laughable). Only way to really deal with him effectively is to neuter him in Congress and the Rs would have to control the House for that.
I really do hate this MFer.Quote:
The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn," Obama said during a virtual discussion with members of the Obama Alumni Association. "The fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That's the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic not just institutional norms but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk. And when you start moving in those directions, it can accelerate pretty quickly as we've seen in other places."
Prognightmare said:I really do hate this MFer.Quote:
The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn," Obama said during a virtual discussion with members of the Obama Alumni Association. "The fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That's the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic not just institutional norms but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk. And when you start moving in those directions, it can accelerate pretty quickly as we've seen in other places."
He's scared! ?
My point is that lying is not a crime unless he's under oath.
What ever leftists accuse conservatives of is what they are actually doing themselves. Projection.
The god ****ing damn unholy unbelieveable gall of these ****ing traitors is absolutely stunning.
Prognightmare said:I really do hate this MFer.Quote:
The news over the last 24 hours I think has been somewhat downplayed about the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn," Obama said during a virtual discussion with members of the Obama Alumni Association. "The fact that there is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free. That's the kind of stuff where you begin to get worried that basic not just institutional norms but our basic understanding of rule of law is at risk. And when you start moving in those directions, it can accelerate pretty quickly as we've seen in other places."
Flynn didn't get off scot free. He lost his money, job, house, 3+ years of his life worrying, his reputation was trashed and is still being trashed, etc. that's a hell of a punishment for a coerced perjury rap. Obama opining about the rule of law is a joke.
This maybe a debate for a separate thread, but for you attorneys would this be a time for Trump sue Clapper, Brennan, Rice, Power, etc fpr defamation? Could he prove actual malice as required in NYT v Sullivan? Or would they get off because it could be considered a statement of opinion? Doesn't Thomas want a chance to weaken some of these libel rulings?4stringAg said:
Schiff lies because it's like a bodily function to him and he knows that the only entities that could possibly hold him to account are the press (laughable) and the voters in his district (again laughable). Only way to really deal with him effectively is to neuter him in Congress and the Rs would have to control the House for that.
Lying is not an element of the crimes that Schiff May be charged with.
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
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