Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Seems the DOJ didn't take lightly Judge Walton's comments about Barr lacking candor.
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Seems the DOJ didn't take lightly Judge Walton's comments about Barr lacking candor.
Well they shouldn't. The bogus statements and tomfoolery around the whole sordid mess have gone on long enough.
Trump will fix it.
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aggiehawg said:

Deats said:

Remember Dimitri (hates Russia on a personal level) left Crowdstrike last month. That's the guy who requested the personal meeting with me in 2018 after I had been trashing them on here for months.

https://www.cyberscoop.com/dmitri-alperovitch-crowdstrike-co-founder-steps/
Must have missed that. What was his issue with you?


We travel in the same circles. I assume he had google alerts in for himself.
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Adam Ag 98 said:

I've noticed it is common for journalists to say "that theory, which has been debunked" quite a bit. Yet they ignore mounds of evidence to the contrary.

I recently saw it when referencing the theory that Biden got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired because of his son. They nonchalantly toss it out with zero sourcing in order to perpetrate the lies or flimsy stories they're peddling.

But Mueller's report did prove collusion and obstruction.....
Theories about Seth Rich's UNSOLVED MURDER were somehow debunked. Go figure
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236005563953184768.html

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.....Assuming the dossier was first written by Steele in British English, it seems there was extensive editing by an American after Steele finished writing......

Interesting analysis of the spelling of words in the Steele Dossier.
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Seems the DOJ didn't take lightly Judge Walton's comments about Barr lacking candor.
Dear Reggie,

EAD.

Sincerely,
Bill
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Deats said:

aggiehawg said:

Deats said:

Remember Dimitri (hates Russia on a personal level) left Crowdstrike last month. That's the guy who requested the personal meeting with me in 2018 after I had been trashing them on here for months.

https://www.cyberscoop.com/dmitri-alperovitch-crowdstrike-co-founder-steps/
Must have missed that. What was his issue with you?


We travel in the same circles. I assume he had google alerts in for himself.
Did you ever meet with him?
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I did. We chatted for about 5 minutes. I don't think either of us impressed each other.
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Deats said:

I did. We chatted for about 5 minutes. I don't either of us impressed each other.
LOL. That's exactly what I was going to ask you. What your opinion was. When I was reading McCain toadie, David Kramer's deposition he testified about his whirlwind meeting in London with Steele. In the day and age when one can be sent a picture of their Uber driver, Kramer was instructed to look for a guy wearing a navy overcoat and holding that day's copy of the Financial Times at Heathrow, in late November, when a lot of people would be wearing overcoats, many navy.

Real 007 stuff, ooooh that's impressive. Steele sounded like a pompous ass to me, just from Kramer's description.

ETA: And I assumed Alperovitch would be just the same.
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5 minute video worth watching. Starts off with a bomb about Steele & his Dossier -- Nunes states Fusion GPS wrote proto-dossiers that Steele put his name on & passed off as his reports.
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5 minute video worth watching. Starts off with a bomb about Steele & his Dossier -- Nunes states Fusion GPS wrote proto-dossiers that Steele put his name on & passed off as his reports.
Nellie Ohr speaks and reads Russian. Steele does not, AFAIK.
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aggiehawg said:

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5 minute video worth watching. Starts off with a bomb about Steele & his Dossier -- Nunes states Fusion GPS wrote proto-dossiers that Steele put his name on & passed off as his reports.
Nellie Ohr speaks and reads Russian. Steele does not, AFAIK.
That analysis posted above on this page about the English/British spelling disparities in Steele's Dossier speaks volumes IMO.
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drcrinum said:

aggiehawg said:

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5 minute video worth watching. Starts off with a bomb about Steele & his Dossier -- Nunes states Fusion GPS wrote proto-dossiers that Steele put his name on & passed off as his reports.
Nellie Ohr speaks and reads Russian. Steele does not, AFAIK.
That analysis posted above on this page about the English/British spelling disparities in Steele's Dossier speaks volumes IMO.
And don't forget the Strzok text about there being different versions of the Steele Dossier that the FBI had seen. It had many different authors further undermining any credibility. FBI should have been quite suspicious and have told the FISA court that it had multiple authors and not all were identified as to credibility, nor actual source access.

Really piss-poor investigative technique. Any rookie cop would have questioned its veracity.
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https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/08/christopher-steele-durham-not-cooperate/

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Dossier author Christopher Steele will not cooperate with U.S. Attorney John Durham's investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, telling an audience at Oxford University that he believes U.S. investigators have acted in "bad faith."

Steele, a former British spy, said at the Oxford event on Friday that he and his firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, had already "done our duty" by cooperating with a Justice Department inspector general's (IG) investigation of the FBI's surveillance of Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

According to The Daily Beast, which attended the Oxford event, Steele also criticized the IG, saying that he cooperated with the probe for "four or five months," and observed "very bad qualities" on the part of government officials. He said some acted in "bad faith."

Reuters reported on Friday that Durham's team has recently approached Steele seeking an interview. The former MI6 officer rejected the request because he believes that he would not be treated fairly, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters......

I wonder if Glenn Simpson & Fusion GPS are cooperating with Durham.

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So is the Coronavirus thread going to top this one?
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On a separate note, what makes people post and read 36,000 posts on this topic?

It's like watching MSM every night for 5 hours repeating the same thing in different words, with no new outcome. People watch it as if something groundbreaking is going to happen and they won't be there to see it for themselves. When we all know nothing new will happen.
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On a separate note, what makes people post and read 36,000 posts on this topic?

It's like watching MSM every night for 5 hours repeating the same thing in different words, with no new outcome. People watch it as if something groundbreaking is going to happen and they won't be there to see it for themselves. When we all know nothing new will happen.
High profile mysteries are being solved and were getting to see pieces of evidence as they're discovered and then again as their relevance is understood.

All of us, as Americans, have a stake in the results, unless we don't care about the rule of law. Even if nothing can be successfully prosecuted, it's important for the facts to get out.

Sure there's a lot of repetition. I can filter that...I'm here for the next clue.

ETA: ...and the opinions and expertise that help me understand those clues.
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So is the Coronavirus thread going to top this one?
In number of posts, probably.

In terms of actual useful content, never.

Way too much of the virus thread is hysterics, attacking those calling out the hysterics, or people who seem to want a full on pandemic with billions infected.
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Whens lunch said:

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On a separate note, what makes people post and read 36,000 posts on this topic?

It's like watching MSM every night for 5 hours repeating the same thing in different words, with no new outcome. People watch it as if something groundbreaking is going to happen and they won't be there to see it for themselves. When we all know nothing new will happen.
High profile mysteries are being solved and were getting to see pieces of evidence as they're discovered and then again as their relevance is understood.

All of us, as Americans, have a stake in the results, unless we don't care about the rule of law. Even if nothing can be successfully prosecuted, it's important for the facts to get out.

Sure there's a lot of repetition. I can filter that...I'm here for the next clue.

ETA: ...and the opinions and expertise that help me understand those clues.
In many respects it's like a very complicated Sherlock Holmes mystery where new clues/episodes are published almost daily. If you don't keep up with it, it becomes difficult to grasp what direction the story is taking.
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https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/08/christopher-steele-durham-not-cooperate/

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Dossier author Christopher Steele will not cooperate with U.S. Attorney John Durham's investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, telling an audience at Oxford University that he believes U.S. investigators have acted in "bad faith."

Steele, a former British spy, said at the Oxford event on Friday that he and his firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, had already "done our duty" by cooperating with a Justice Department inspector general's (IG) investigation of the FBI's surveillance of Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

According to The Daily Beast, which attended the Oxford event, Steele also criticized the IG, saying that he cooperated with the probe for "four or five months," and observed "very bad qualities" on the part of government officials. He said some acted in "bad faith."

Reuters reported on Friday that Durham's team has recently approached Steele seeking an interview. The former MI6 officer rejected the request because he believes that he would not be treated fairly, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters......

I wonder if Glenn Simpson & Fusion GPS are cooperating with Durham.




The man who passed off garbage as fact to assist in spying on a presidential campaign accusing the people of investigating that of acting in bad faith. Gotta love the chutzpah.
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The man who passed off garbage as fact to assist in spying on a presidential campaign accusing the people of investigating that of acting in bad faith. Gotta love the chutzpah.
Even more of a pompous ass than the regular Brit. Why anyone continues to pay for his services is a mystery to me.
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On a separate note, what makes people post and read 36,000 posts on this topic?

It's like watching MSM every night for 5 hours repeating the same thing in different words, with no new outcome. People watch it as if something groundbreaking is going to happen and they won't be there to see it for themselves. When we all know nothing new will happen.
Piss off. You're deraiing the thread. Click somewhere else if you don't want to read it.
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VegasAg86 said:

drcrinum said:



https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/08/christopher-steele-durham-not-cooperate/

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Dossier author Christopher Steele will not cooperate with U.S. Attorney John Durham's investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, telling an audience at Oxford University that he believes U.S. investigators have acted in "bad faith."

Steele, a former British spy, said at the Oxford event on Friday that he and his firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, had already "done our duty" by cooperating with a Justice Department inspector general's (IG) investigation of the FBI's surveillance of Trump campaign aide Carter Page.

According to The Daily Beast, which attended the Oxford event, Steele also criticized the IG, saying that he cooperated with the probe for "four or five months," and observed "very bad qualities" on the part of government officials. He said some acted in "bad faith."

Reuters reported on Friday that Durham's team has recently approached Steele seeking an interview. The former MI6 officer rejected the request because he believes that he would not be treated fairly, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters......

I wonder if Glenn Simpson & Fusion GPS are cooperating with Durham.




The man who passed off garbage as fact to assist in spying on a presidential campaign accusing the people of investigating that of acting in bad faith. Gotta love the chutzpah.

Subpoena his ass. Make him jump through hoops and balance a ball on his nose. Hire lawyers, spend money, mortgage his house. Get him on process crimes. Ruin his life. What goes around comes around.
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Subpoena his ass. Make him jump through hoops and balance a ball on his nose. Hire lawyers, spend money, mortgage his house. Get him on process crimes. Ruin his life. What goes around comes around.
Better yet, indict his ass for filing false reports to the FBI and move to extradite him to the U.S.
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But would the Brits cooperate?

I understand its a legal issue between two countries, but couldn't the Brits pull something out of the Dems playbook and delay until 2022, or longer? I don't know if Steele has info that Durham doesn't, but I suspect he may know a few things that aren't on paper.

Just an observation.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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Can I go to sleep Looch?
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Several of us observed from the start that the Mueller investigation was likely Primarily a distraction and coverup for unlawful spying by the Obama administration and that the entire Russia investigation was pretext for older spying. The initial IRS abuses gave away the game. You're dealing with a cabal of progressive radicals with an ideology influenced by Saul Alinsky and his contemporaries. The ends justifies the means, and they will use confirmation bias to rationalize their way to wherever they believed they needed to go. They are also so sure their opposition is AT LEAST as morally and ethically corrupt as they themselves are that they were sure they would find evil criminal acts by conservatives that would justify their actions beyond the ideological justification that conservatives must be stopped from blocking progress towards a progressive utopia.

Their ideology, like any self delusion that claims to provide all the necessary answers and it's own moral justification, betrayed them as surely as if it were Satan himself. They didn't find the pretext they were sure they would, so they set about trying to manufacture enough of one should it be needed, and were shocked into having to use it by an unlikely Trump victory in 2016.

We are dealing with dangerous malevolent sociopaths that rationalize their own higher moral imperatives for their spiteful actions.
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And to add: they don't comprehend what they are or what they are doing so consciously. They are ideologically possessed and behave compulsively in that regards. They are often have an open and agreeable base temperament and their value structure is based on feeding their need to feel that they themselves care, and that people are forced into more equitable circumstances, and that existing institutions and hierarchies are preventing this natural progression and therefore they must seek power to upend those hierarchies. It's a religious crusade of sorts.
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MouthBQ98 said:

And to add: they don't comprehend what they are or what they are doing so consciously. They are ideologically possessed and behave compulsively in that regards. They are often have an open and agreeable base temperament and their value structure is based on feeding their need to feel that they themselves care, and that people are forced into more equitable circumstances, and that existing institutions and hierarchies are preventing this natural progression and therefore they must seek power to upend those hierarchies. It's a religious crusade of sorts.
Wow, not enough stars for that post.

I was going to comment on the first post by stating I agree with your assessment, but don't believe Barr, or Durham, will be able to delve that deeply. if they do, I'm sure it would either a foot note, or a by-line, even though the public won't see the report.

I'm pretty convinced that Durham will pick and choose who will get indicted. That sounds bad, but there are so many folks involved down stream, that he cant indict over 50 people.

As usual, I could be wrong.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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Blue Star for you Premium. I started reading this thread again and said, "something is missing, they are not talking about what's important now." Then I saw your post and you saved the thread, thanks for getting the all important Corona Virus in here.
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Only 5 more working days before FISA "business records provision", the "roving wiretap" provision, the "lone wolf" provision, and the more controversial bulk metadata provisions [Call Detail Records (CDR)], are all suspended on March 15.

Rep. Collins says they don't have the votes to pass a "clean re-authorization".

Good! There needs to be many reforms.
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Hmmm.....Was she a honeypot (spy) all along? If so, for whom?
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She had an affair with Tom Arnold? What is going on here?

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill]I prefer the red pills[/url]
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Before her account went down, she was referring to Papa's podcast today where he had Tom Arnold and Fleccas (conservative/right wing YouTuber) "debating". Evidently Papa said something about her on the podcast, but I'm not sure. I haven't listened yet.

Her Twitter was loaded with tweets from the past day where she was trashing him pretty hard. But the tweets were strange with lots of misspellings, etc. But maybe that's her typical style since English isn't her first language.

Idk. Real strange.
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https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/21-words-uttered-fisa-court-change-russia-collusion-case#

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...In just 21 words, Boasberg provided the first judicial declaration the FBI had misled the court, not just committed process errors. "There is thus little doubt that the government breached its duty of candor to the Court with respect to those applications," Boasberg wrote....

Good read from John Solomon.
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