So theee is a press conference. Walking by it looks like CNN had on screen that sheriff timeline is in line with MGM statement. That doesn't seem correct

drcrinum said:

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Who is Jesus Campos?

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Who is John Galt?

GiggityAg01 said:

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drcrinum said:

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Who is Jesus Campos?

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Who is John Galt?

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Keyser Soze

I guess the press conference today wasn't open to the public and they weren't taking questions.

The timeline has changed again. Now he opened fire 40 seconds after shooting Campos.

in the presser, they said that the 9:59 confusion was because that's when Campos encountered the barricaded door. In the 6 minutes before the shooting started, he went up to a higher floor and came down another way apparently to get to Paddock's room. He was then shot at 10:05 and Paddock started shooting into the crowd 40 seconds later. There is consensus here between LE and MGM apparently now.

A new revelation (as far as I know) was that Paddock fired towards police vehicles, which injured several with major wounds. They also confirmed again that he fired towards the tanks, but reiterated that it's very difficult to get an explosion with gunfire.

They sounded more polished today, but I remain unchanged in my thoughts after seeing it. I still think there's much to be answered.

The FBI goon said they're basically not going to report anything during the live investigation, as has always been their policy. Apparently, either he or the sheriff said there's no conspiracy though. I missed the early portion of it.

Well that means MB wasn't slow at calling the police so they may not be in as much trouble as they were after release of the second timeline.

Now where does the maintenance man come in. He said that he was told by Campos to take cover and he called down to dispatch too. They said he called six minutes before the shooting so now his timeline is off but no mention of him in the article I read.

Has anyone...on any site...actually told us how many people had gunshot wounds? I don't want to know the number of knee scrapes and such...just actual gunshot wounds.

How come this most basic fact is missing from the reporting?

oh, they also solidified the injury stats as 546 injured with 501 now released from the hospitals.

WestAustinAg said:

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Has anyone...on any site...actually told us how many people had gunshot wounds? I don't want to know the number of knee scrapes and such...just actual gunshot wounds.

How come this most basic fact is missing from the reporting?

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but no breakdown on injury types unfortunately

WestAustinAg said:

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Has anyone...on any site...actually told us how many people had gunshot wounds? I don't want to know the number of knee scrapes and such...just actual gunshot wounds.

How come this most basic fact is missing from the reporting?

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Because they're were hundreds of injured and they went to multiple hospitals who may or may not be willing to share those numbers with reporters because it could be considered protected information.

WestAustinAg said:

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Has anyone...on any site...actually told us how many people had gunshot wounds? I don't want to know the number of knee scrapes and such...just actual gunshot wounds.

How come this most basic fact is missing from the reporting?

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They can't even figure out when the shooting began compared to when the guard encountered the shooter. I'm not sure they would be able to tell the difference between knee scrapes and bullet wounds.

One hour: the amount of time that passed from the time the shooting stopped till police entered the room.

That is more than enough time for accomplices or actual perps to escape.

When were the police on the scene in the hall? Campos was there until the cops show up, surely he'd confirm if he saw someone escaping?

zmurda said:

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A new revelation (as far as I know) was that Paddock fired towards police vehicles, which injured several with major wounds. They also confirmed again that he fired towards the tanks, but reiterated that it's very difficult to get an explosion with gunfire.

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I thought police arrived 15 minutes after Paddock began shooting at the concert and that Paddock stopped shooting after 12 minutes?

Bobcat06 said:

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zmurda said:

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A new revelation (as far as I know) was that Paddock fired towards police vehicles, which injured several with major wounds. They also confirmed again that he fired towards the tanks, but reiterated that it's very difficult to get an explosion with gunfire.

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I thought police arrived 15 minutes after Paddock began shooting at the concert and that Paddock stopped shooting after 12 minutes?

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no clue...it was the first that I had heard that he was shooting at police vehicles. They didn't say it was responding units. Could have just been police cars parked around the concert venue for security I suppose...

Quit thinking. Just accept it and if things change accept the new facts.

zmurda said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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zmurda said:

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A new revelation (as far as I know) was that Paddock fired towards police vehicles, which injured several with major wounds. They also confirmed again that he fired towards the tanks, but reiterated that it's very difficult to get an explosion with gunfire.

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I thought police arrived 15 minutes after Paddock began shooting at the concert and that Paddock stopped shooting after 12 minutes?

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no clue...it was the first that I had heard that he was shooting at police vehicles. They didn't say it was responding units. Could have just been police cars parked around the concert venue for security I suppose...

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Since there were injuries, that means police were in the cars. Do police normally wait in there cars while providing security for concerts?

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zmurda said:

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Bobcat06 said:

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zmurda said:

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A new revelation (as far as I know) was that Paddock fired towards police vehicles, which injured several with major wounds. They also confirmed again that he fired towards the tanks, but reiterated that it's very difficult to get an explosion with gunfire.

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I thought police arrived 15 minutes after Paddock began shooting at the concert and that Paddock stopped shooting after 12 minutes?

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no clue...it was the first that I had heard that he was shooting at police vehicles. They didn't say it was responding units. Could have just been police cars parked around the concert venue for security I suppose...

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Since there were injuries, that means police were in the cars. Do police normally wait in there cars while providing security for concerts?

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if they are on traffic duty and blocking traffic

aTmAg said:

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My guess is that he's an illegal alien and worried about getting deported.

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It is taking awhile to scrub the gunpowder residue off his hands and to have hillary wipe his computer clean with a cloth or something.

Mr_mo8268 said:

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I have a source involved in this and what they are saying is way different than what's being reported. Campos was heavily involved

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He does seem awful lucky to get shot in a non vital area like the leg.

Mr_mo8268 said:

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I have a source involved in this and what they are saying is way different than what's being reported. Campos was heavily involved

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Just read a tweet within an article. Jesus Campos is under gag order.

Mr_mo8268 said:

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I have a source involved in this and what they are saying is way different than what's being reported. Campos was heavily involved

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Go on...

Mr_mo8268 said:

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I have a source involved in this and what they are saying is way different than what's being reported. Campos was heavily involved

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TexAgs knows things

zmurda said:

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in the presser, they said that the 9:59 confusion was because that's when Campos encountered the barricaded door. In the 6 minutes before the shooting started, he went up to a higher floor and came down another way apparently to get to Paddock's room. He was then shot at 10:05 and Paddock started shooting into the crowd 40 seconds later. There is consensus here between LE and MGM apparently now.

A new revelation (as far as I know) was that Paddock fired towards police vehicles, which injured several with major wounds. They also confirmed again that he fired towards the tanks, but reiterated that it's very difficult to get an explosion with gunfire.

They sounded more polished today, but I remain unchanged in my thoughts after seeing it. I still think there's much to be answered.

The FBI goon said they're basically not going to report anything during the live investigation, as has always been their policy. Apparently, either he or the sheriff said there's no conspiracy though. I missed the early portion of it.

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Here is the video of the presser. Start about the 4 minute mark for the explanation of the 6 minutes/9:59pm time frame. The interview also verifies that Paddock checked in September 25, not September 28.



For your interest, below is the interview with Stephen Schuck, the building engineer (maintenance man):

Mr_mo8268 said:

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I have a source involved in this and what they are saying is way different than what's being reported. Campos was heavily involved

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We're listening...

marble rye said:

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Just read a tweet within an article. Jesus Campos is under gag order.

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I suspect much of the hotel staff is along with anyone who knows information that isn't public.

Jersey Girl said:

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GCP12 said:

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Mr_mo8268 said:

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I have a source involved in this and what they are saying is way different than what's being reported. Campos was heavily involved

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We're listening...

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Mfbarnes?

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Don't be silly. It was ldelriego.

Bald Messiah said:

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Jersey Girl said:

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GCP12 said:

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Mr_mo8268 said:

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I have a source involved in this and what they are saying is way different than what's being reported. Campos was heavily involved

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We're listening...

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Mfbarnes?

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Don't be silly. It was ldelriego.

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I heard it was Rojo.