drcrinum said:

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Well, well.....

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manually created after the fact....right....b/c Vegas hotel casinos aren't incredibly organized....

Just more garbage...

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North Dallas Forty oz. said:

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The author seems to be ignorant of the report linked below, in which an escort paints a disturbing picture of Paddock's "violent rape fantasies." Paddock bragged about being "born bad." The escort described Paddock as obsessive, paranoid, and a 9/11 truther. "[W]hen he would have a winning streak, we would go back and have really aggressive and violent sex."

Couple this with the psychotropic drugs, which he'd been on since 2013, and you get a slightly different idea of who Paddock was.

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Perhaps. On the other hand if you're trying to sweep something under the rug, I can't think of too many people easier than an escort to pay to parrot the company line.

By psychotropic drugs, do you mean the benzo? Or something else? If it's the former, there's zero chance that's the cause.

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If we are talking about the Diazepam (Valium)....hadn't it been reported that he only took those on an as needed basis and not regularly? That's a super common prescription for folks who have mild anxiety, or even above average that flares up from time to time. I highly highly doubt it would have ANY effect on his sanity. Valium is the pill equivalent of smoking a j...

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Cepe said:

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That was a good article.

I think he did the shouting himself but had help in the planning.

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I would say that at the very least he had help in planning it, but that doesn't really answer the why.

The only two bits of information that we have to this point is the announcement of ISIS that Las Vegas was a target:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/calls-for-attacks-against-las-vegas-emerge-on-isis-propaganda-video/719081124

...and the claim after the fact that he did this for ISIS:

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/10/05/isis-claims-responsibility-las-vegas-attack-fourth-time/

If you set aside the most simple explanation - I converted to Islam and did it for Allah - aside, the explanations get either more ridiculous (a guy with no documented history of mental illness suddenly snapped and carried out a plot requiring immense amounts of forethought) or more complicated (he was an arms dealer, was part of a fast-and-furious style plot to entrap ISIS, the deal went bad, and he was killed by terrorists who did the actual shooting).



Video link to his brother saying "He was an arm..." before suddenlying realizing he didn't want to go there and clamming up.

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I don't know about all that. I just think he talked it over with his brother and probably practiced shooting with him.

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drcrinum said:

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Well, well.....

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manually created after the fact....right....b/c Vegas hotel casinos aren't incredibly organized....

Just more garbage...

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It called CYA....avoiding legal suites for not calling 911 immediately and notifying the authorities.

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North Dallas Forty oz. said:

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The author seems to be ignorant of the report linked below, in which an escort paints a disturbing picture of Paddock's "violent rape fantasies." Paddock bragged about being "born bad." The escort described Paddock as obsessive, paranoid, and a 9/11 truther. "[W]hen he would have a winning streak, we would go back and have really aggressive and violent sex."

Couple this with the psychotropic drugs, which he'd been on since 2013, and you get a slightly different idea of who Paddock was.

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Perhaps. On the other hand if you're trying to sweep something under the rug, I can't think of too many people easier than an escort to pay to parrot the company line.

By psychotropic drugs, do you mean the benzo? Or something else? If it's the former, there's zero chance that's the cause.

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Paying off a hooker would be a huge risk and liability. Not an easy fix. Unless you're going to later wack her to keep her quiet, but what would stop her from running to another outlet for more money before then?

It seems like the people who act like experts on these type of things are the most out of touch with how they really work.

Jesus will be on Hannity tonight.

Feel weird even typing that out.

Jesus is a GREAT AMERICAN!!

Here's a question. If 200 rounds were shot at Campos before he shot at the crowd, then why is it not picked up on those videos playing a whole 5 minutes before we hear the first shots fired on the crowd? Are you telling me that 200 rounds can't be heard when shot at the guard but no problem being heard when shot at the crowd when both were shot from same range? Also now that the hotel has come out and said just 40 seconds between shots at the guard and crowd, you can hear that in a few videos and that does add up as true. But they were single shotsx2 about ten seconds apart and then 40 seconds later shots were fired on the crowd. Wow......

drcrinum said:

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zmurda said:

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drcrinum said:

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Well, well.....

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manually created after the fact....right....b/c Vegas hotel casinos aren't incredibly organized....

Just more garbage...

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It called CYA....avoiding legal suites for not calling 911 immediately and notifying the authorities.

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I had a buddy who ran facilities and maintenance for one of the huge Indian casinos in CT years ago. After he left he told me how shocked he was at the casino's policies towards the death of a guest. Every once in a while someone would commit suicide or OD in their room. The casino's policy was pretty much 99% centered around preventing any other guests from being discomforted unless the guest was still alive and/or their were survivors. I remember him describing it as "heartless". Obviously things are different on Tribal land since the police and casino are on the same team but I would imagine casino security in Vegas maintains a lot of power over their fiefdom too.

Just giving MB the benefit of the doubt here - I would bet most of the active shooter scenarios the casinos trained for before this event centered on shooters in the public spaces of the casino. Before this happened it would have been quite the leap to hear a report of gunshots in a room and think "I bet someone is raining gunfire on the people across the street" instead of thinking "well, that dude killed himself" or "himself and his family". I'm sure Jesus and the maintenance guy probably knew something was seriously amiss but the security manager that night might very well have just assumed someone blew their brains out and was more focused on minimizing any ruckus when the police responded.

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Or, perhaps he never pulled a single trigger and somehow ended up shot through the head in a room full of guns overlooking Las Vegas Blvd. and dozens of dead concertgoers.
The most disturbing aspect of this event and the mainstream narrative, though, is what it insinuates.
It insinuates that anyone no matter how seemingly normal could one day simply "snap" and murder crowds of people with impunity.

It is the anti-Second Amendment narrative personified, because if "anyone" is capable of such horror, and motive is nonexistent, then the mere existence of firearm access means that we are surrounded by millions of latent mass shooters.

That is to say, we are supposed to fear everyone around us at all times.

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The author of this article is really stretching with this one way into Alex Jone's turf. If he is going to peddle a conspiracy like this at least he should have done it when Obama was President. So Trump, Sessions and his hand picked FBI guy are going to pull this off to erode support for the second amendment? Or is this a double top secret cell of Obama holdovers that pulled this off?

They are escorts not hookers. Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas.

I posted about psychotropic drugs on my facebook and a couple of sniper friends chimed in that Diazepam (valium) is used commonly used for shooting because it keeps you calm and less twitchy while you are aiming long distances.

When they first said he shot into the crowd before he shot down the hallway, to me it explained the more distant shots you hear at about :47 on this video, which were after much louder shots. Of course I don't know much about guns but that seems weird.

Shooting single shots at long distances sure. Bumpstock firing probably no positive effect.

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applemac_g4 said:

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North Dallas Forty oz. said:

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The author seems to be ignorant of the report linked below, in which an escort paints a disturbing picture of Paddock's "violent rape fantasies." Paddock bragged about being "born bad." The escort described Paddock as obsessive, paranoid, and a 9/11 truther. "[W]hen he would have a winning streak, we would go back and have really aggressive and violent sex."

Couple this with the psychotropic drugs, which he'd been on since 2013, and you get a slightly different idea of who Paddock was.

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Perhaps. On the other hand if you're trying to sweep something under the rug, I can't think of too many people easier than an escort to pay to parrot the company line.

By psychotropic drugs, do you mean the benzo? Or something else? If it's the former, there's zero chance that's the cause.

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If we are talking about the Diazepam (Valium)....hadn't it been reported that he only took those on an as needed basis and not regularly? That's a super common prescription for folks who have mild anxiety, or even above average that flares up from time to time. I highly highly doubt it would have ANY effect on his sanity. Valium is the pill equivalent of smoking a j...

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In his deposition in a lawsuit a few years back, he stated that he had a prescription, but he took it sparingly (had a prescription tthat was like a year old I think)

Sorry but is anybody really buying the that ISIS was behind this? Seems a little out of place and forced by the MSM.

Are we all agreenace that there were 2 gunman? If that is the case, how could one not really start exploring the conspiracies that are floating out there. I think the gov't floats some wild ass conspiracy to undermine some conspiracy theories that have a lot of truth to it.

And how the F does a casino not have CCTV of every square inch of its facilty) excluding the room? I watch the ID Channel and podunk motels have CCTV of the main hallways. That channel takes at least an hour of sleep time from me every night.

I heard that the housekeeping team for floor 32 was told to stay home that day- anyone heard that?

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Sorry but is anybody really buying the that ISIS was behind this? Seems a little out of place and forced by the MSM.

Are we all agreenace that there were 2 gunman? If that is the case, how could one not really start exploring the conspiracies that are floating out there. I think the gov't floats some wild ass conspiracy to undermine some conspiracy theories that have a lot of truth to it.

And how the F does a casino not have CCTV of every square inch of its facilty) excluding the room? I watch the ID Channel and podunk motels have CCTV of the main hallways. That channel takes at least an hour of sleep time from me every night.

I heard that the housekeeping team for floor 32 was told to stay home that day- anyone heard that?

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Of course it's not ISIS. That's just silly. Everyone knows it was the illuminati.

can anyone give us some hannity cliff notes?

What a ridiculous statement. You are such a good little sheep.

Please give me all the factual information on why you think ISIS is behind this.

It may very well be ISIS but this doesn't have any traits of an ISIS attack to me. MSM has kind of stopped with the ISIS angle.. for now.

What are some red flags to me are-- inaccuracies of events and timeline. Why the inaccuracies on such things that are so blatant Barney Fife would of caught? Showing picture of body immediately after- seems odd to me. Would they want to keep that in house while they continue to investigate? Multiple shooters- I've seen enough and anybody with a brain knows there were multiple guns being fired.

I'm not sure what happen and am not spouting off some crazy conspiracy but I do have a brain and can think for myself.


Please enlighten us with concrete evidence on how ISIS is responsible.

Not sure who said he'd be on Hannity but that was a total whiff. It's been nothing but Weinstein all night.

yeah unless they show it in the next 2 mins, they falsely put on promos saying he would be on.

You are quickly becoming my favorite new poster. You rock.

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Not sure who said he'd be on Hannity but that was a total whiff. It's been nothing but Weinstein all night.

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Isnt he right though, isn't Jesus is on Hannity every night?

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yeah unless they show it in the next 2 mins, they falsely put on promos saying he would be on.

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Are you sure it wasn't for his radio show?

backintexas2013 said:

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You are quickly becoming my favorite new poster. You rock.

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Ha! Thanks!

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North Dallas Forty oz. said:

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The author seems to be ignorant of the report linked below, in which an escort paints a disturbing picture of Paddock's "violent rape fantasies." Paddock bragged about being "born bad." The escort described Paddock as obsessive, paranoid, and a 9/11 truther. "[W]hen he would have a winning streak, we would go back and have really aggressive and violent sex."

Couple this with the psychotropic drugs, which he'd been on since 2013, and you get a slightly different idea of who Paddock was.

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Perhaps. On the other hand if you're trying to sweep something under the rug, I can't think of too many people easier than an escort to pay to parrot the company line.

By psychotropic drugs, do you mean the benzo? Or something else? If it's the former, there's zero chance that's the cause.

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A lot of other people painted a totally different picture of him as being egotistical and arrogant. Are they on the dole too?

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Olag00 said:

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yeah unless they show it in the next 2 mins, they falsely put on promos saying he would be on.

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Are you sure it wasn't for his radio show?

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Do they promo his radio show on FoxNews TV channel? I have been watching it pretty regular and have never seen a radio show promo on the TV channel but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

This looks like for the TV show...

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This looks like for the TV show...

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When is that from? It says "tomorrow".

No Campos on Hannity. Not even a mention. Nothing on @seanhannity , and multiple people tweeted inquiring about where was Campos.

Article from yesterday and I saw promos today myself for it.

https://70news.wordpress.com/2017/10/12/laura-loomer-visits-jesus-campos-house/

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/hotel-security-guard-jesus-campos-abruptly-cancels-interview-sean-hannity/

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Mandalay Bay security guard, Jesus Campos, was supposed to appear on Sean Hannity's show at 9pm est tonight but canceled on the Fox News host.

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Take it for what it is worth. More conspiracy theories.