Shooting in Las Vegas

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Brock Landers said:

Bobcat06 said:

ummmm.....




Wait, so there is just some random dead dude that's a dead ringer for Paddock, but it's not really him. Meanwhile, the REAL Stephen Paddock is blissfully unaware that he's the most hated man in America and just saunters into a casino in AC?

Or, is Stephen Paddock in on conspiracy, but decides to play a few hands of blackjack at a casino (with his GF, no less) anyway?


Logic doesn't go over too well with some people.
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ShaggyAggie, ill delete it if you want. I have no idea. Not trying to make people angry.
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Brock, who knows buddy. But the guy is a dead ringer for steve paddock. No? For all we know, this was made by a guy and photo shopped the menu into it and the video is old.
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I enjoy reading conspiracy theories but I mostly don't buy into a lot (reptilian overlords, anyone?). HOWEVER I do think it's very strange that there has been hardly any information or pictures out about Jesus Campo(?), the hero security guard that was shot first by Paddock, that there has been almost no info or pictures of Marilou (the long time gf)...they interrogated her and we haven't heard Jack since. ALSO, if this guy spent literally months in hotels on the strip and was undoubtedly a regular, why haven't we seen any posts/interviews from people that waited on him, checked him in, saw him often in the casinos? Usually the media will dig up anyone that might have even breathed the same air as a suspect and in this case nothing. I don't know what the deal is but there is a lot of weirdness here. If I missed some interviews pertaining to the above I'd love to know. So far all I've seen is a blurb from an anonymous hooker.
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Let me ad to LisaMarie, I sure wouldn't want to be shot or hurt in any way in Vegas. Why you ask? Just about every video over 15 minutes long shows zero help coming but the police. No ambulances or fire trucks. Nothing.
And still nobody is talking about the taxi ladies video. Clearly shows there was more than one shooter. Still not talked about here or in the media...why?
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lead said:

I am also intrigued at this mystery. There's a lot of good links and discussion here. But as things have slowed down it's starting to get a little nutty.


To me, the slowing down makes it nuttier. Do we have nearly no information bc this guy was a MENSA level killer or is there a reason to withhold information?

The biggest shooting in US history had no purpose?
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Like i was saying. Many regular American citizens are out on the job looking into this. And are putting videos out on it. Some are good some are not. But as i said, not sitting around letting the media, police, FBI and or anyone else tell us what when down that night.
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I think most on here have concluded that the sounds of more than one shooter we generated by the sound echoing off of different structures. I listened real hard and couldn't hear anything that would disprove that theory.... idk

Edit: I think some of the guys that addressed it even had some military or LEO background. FWIW
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LisaMarie said:

I enjoy reading conspiracy theories but I mostly don't buy into a lot (reptilian overlords, anyone?). HOWEVER I do think it's very strange that there has been hardly any information or pictures out about Jesus Campo(?), the hero security guard that was shot first by Paddock, that there has been almost no info or pictures of Marilou (the long time gf)...they interrogated her and we haven't heard Jack since. ALSO, if this guy spent literally months in hotels on the strip and was undoubtedly a regular, why haven't we seen any posts/interviews from people that waited on him, checked him in, saw him often in the casinos? Usually the media will dig up anyone that might have even breathed the same air as a suspect and in this case nothing. I don't know what the deal is but there is a lot of weirdness here. If I missed some interviews pertaining to the above I'd love to know. So far all I've seen is a blurb from an anonymous hooker.
Because it's a fictional story that is being crafted and the media is a part of it, hence the lack of content and investigating. And the perfectly crafted interview with the hooker, or the lack of video or pics about loading dozens of rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo, or the new "mentally unstable never diagnosed" story being told. Once the people in Hollywood are finished shooting the scenes for Paddock gambling and carrying weapons we will see the videos released and interviews with casino gamblers.
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I think he was the lone shooter. However since the investigation is ongoing I also believe there is a GREAT deal they aren't telling us. I feel like the longer they go without significant news updates about this, the more likely this guy actually had some kind of international terrorism ties or something similar.
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Two comments on the Atlantic City video.

Have you ever tried taking a photo in a casino? I have, and was shut down pretty fast.

Paddock reportedly did not like playing with "people," just machines, or so I thought.
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Johnny2Fan said:

Let me ad to LisaMarie, I sure wouldn't want to be shot or hurt in any way in Vegas. Why you ask? Just about every video over 15 minutes long shows zero help coming but the police. No ambulances or fire trucks. Nothing.
And still nobody is talking about the taxi ladies video. Clearly shows there was more than one shooter. Still not talked about here or in the media...why?
My. God.

You and your conspiracy buddies need to take a step back. Seriously. You are embarrassing yourselves.

You understand that no ambulances/paramedics are in the videos because they are held back until the shooter is neutralized right? Well, no...obviously you do not understand that. This isn't a battlefield with medics running around treating the casualties. They don't send paramedics into an active shooter situation because they don't want them getting killed. It's really pretty simple to understand unless you just don't want to.

Furthermore, I've seen the taxi lady's video. All it "clearly" shows is a confused lady behind the wheel trying to figure out what's going on. To say that it clearly shows a second shooter is absolutely ludicrous. In fact, I would say that it only reinforces to me that it was single shooter in an elevated position.

It's an ongoing investigation. Understand that. I'm sorry that YOU'RE not getting updates/info at a rate that YOU would like it, but guess what? It's not about you or any of us. It's about tracking down leads and conducting an investigation. Loose lips sink ships. Again, it's pretty simple unless you're just hell bent on buying into utterly ridiculous theories (no that's not him in Atlantic City...it's a guy that kinda looks like him, no that's wasn't his brother being escorted out of a casino during the shooting, etc., etc.)
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Poker video. Similar looking, but not the same guy.

That Atlantic Cityarmed walk through video, not even close to the brother. Horrible
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This seems like a straightforward one shooter nutbag case to me. Mental illness in the immediate family. Loner. We've seen this story so many times before. His attempt just went more grandiose. But plenty of other mass shooters took steps to maximize their killing.

The only mystery left for me is in regard to his income. All real estate? Or illegal activity? Either way, I think it has nothing to do with the shooting.

I actually think the conspiracies are kind of sad and pathetic. I think it's almost a juicy little game to some.
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Tabasco, they both have same scars over left eye. Are you kidding me? Id believe it to be a photo shop over not being the same guy. Come on.....
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Johnny2Fan said:

Tabasco, they both have same scars over left eye. Are you kidding me? Id believe it to be a photo shop over not being the same guy. Come on.....
It's not a scar, it's a wrinkle in their foreheads. Most of us have them.

The head shapes are different. The eyes are completely different. The lips are completely different. The facial hair growth pattern is different. The (almost) profiles are different.

Please just stop or start your own thread for conspiracies. This is ridiculous.
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Yea if you think those are the same guy you might just be of a different race and actually think all white bald guys look alike...
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"A little nutty"???? It as if every pharmacy in America ran out of lithium tablets.
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Gota De Limon said:

Johnny2Fan said:

Tabasco, they both have same scars over left eye. Are you kidding me? Id believe it to be a photo shop over not being the same guy. Come on.....
It's not a scar, it's a wrinkle in their foreheads. Most of us have them.

The head shapes are different. The eyes are completely different. The lips are completely different. The facial hair growth pattern is different. The (almost) profiles are different.

Please just stop or start your own thread for conspiracies. This is ridiculous.
gotta agree, not even close to the same guy. This reminds me of when people of different races think many others from the same race look alike.
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Since his dad had the mental issues that he did, it's likely Stephen inherited them. It's easy to speculate about info that hasn't been released yet, and yes some of the conspiracy stuff is ridiculous, but to say there aren't some real head scratchers about the shooting and man who carried it out is also untrue given the lack of info put out by investigators.
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Mr_mo8268 said:


Because it's a fictional story that is being crafted and the media is a part of it, hence the lack of content and investigating. And the perfectly crafted interview with the hooker, or the lack of video or pics about loading dozens of rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo, or the new "mentally unstable never diagnosed" story being told. Once the people in Hollywood are finished shooting the scenes for Paddock gambling and carrying weapons we will see the videos released and interviews with casino gamblers.
I have a feeling that you were also concerned with FEMA camps, Jade Helm and Walmart detention centers.
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Quote:

Wait, so there is just some random dead dude that's a dead ringer for Paddock, but it's not really him. Meanwhile, the REAL Stephen Paddock is blissfully unaware that he's the most hated man in America and just saunters into a casino in AC?

Or, is Stephen Paddock in on conspiracy, but decides to play a few hands of blackjack at a casino (with his GF, no less) anyway?




Not to mention the fact that the alleged Atlantic City Stephen Paddock has traveled backward in time and is now ~52 years of age instead of 64.

I wonder if they guy who is so enthusiastically videoing the gambler in Atlantic City could find $5 in his pocket to bribe the waitress to take his liquor glass to get a DNA swab to compare to his brother in Orlando. Oh the missed opportunities to blow the case wide open. If only he'd had the presence of mind to do that or...just yell loud enough for everyone to hear, "OMG, It's Stephen Paddock!"

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IDAGG said:

Mr_mo8268 said:


Because it's a fictional story that is being crafted and the media is a part of it, hence the lack of content and investigating. And the perfectly crafted interview with the hooker, or the lack of video or pics about loading dozens of rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo, or the new "mentally unstable never diagnosed" story being told. Once the people in Hollywood are finished shooting the scenes for Paddock gambling and carrying weapons we will see the videos released and interviews with casino gamblers.
I have a feeling that you were also concerned with FEMA camps, Jade Helm and Walmart detention centers.
Actually not at all.
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So we assume dad was a psychopath because he robbed banks without killing anyone, escaped prison and his violence was trying to run over a cop while on the run? Is there more?
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backintexas2013 said:

So we assume dad was a psychopath because he robbed banks without killing anyone, escaped prison and his violence was trying to run over a cop while on the run? Is there more?
Yeah I don't get this either. They out of the gate label the guy a "sociopath" because he's a bank robber, while being a bank robber is a perfectly rational (albeit corrupt) action with motive. And since this guy actually escaped from prison and lived a life outside of it afterwards he seemed to have been pretty good at crime.

Someone said "he attempted suicide" but I don't know how we would knew that or if it's even true.

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backintexas2013 said:

So we assume dad was a psychopath because he robbed banks without killing anyone, escaped prison and his violence was trying to run over a cop while on the run? Is there more?
They said he is crazy on the news, it must be true. Don't ask questions
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Cy_Tolliver said:

backintexas2013 said:

So we assume dad was a psychopath because he robbed banks without killing anyone, escaped prison and his violence was trying to run over a cop while on the run? Is there more?
Yeah I don't get this either. They out of the gate label the guy a "sociopath" because he's a bank robber, while being a bank robber is a perfectly rational (albeit corrupt) action with motive. And since this guy actually escaped from prison and lived a life outside of it afterwards he seemed to have been pretty good at crime.

Someone said "he attempted suicide" but I don't know how we would knew that or if it's even true.


The dad was described as a psychopath and violent at the time (1960s). So this is not some grand back-in-time revision.
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Bobcat06 said:

ummmm.....



On my cell phone they looked very similar. On a larger screen less so.
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backintexas2013 said:

So we assume dad was a psychopath because he robbed banks without killing anyone, escaped prison and his violence was trying to run over a cop while on the run? Is there more?





It is worth reading the rest of Wictor's tweet storm.
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Did anyone see how he sued the cosmopolitan over a fall in 2013?
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Charpie
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I'm not making that up.
Walked around in flip flops and gambled all night.
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He is saying bless your heart because that is old news, like page 1 or news after the story broke that this was the killer.
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