He had ammonium nitrate in his vehicle at the hotel and tannerite at the Mesquite house. This guy had been planning this for a very long time...a year or more.

10 suitcases in his room

Don't most casinos have front door, lobby, casino, elevator, and hallway cameras?
Like...

Something must have set this guy off, but what ?

He smuggled them all in suitcases

Shot at hotel security through the door.

LoudestWHOOP! said:

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Don't most casinos have front door, lobby, casino, elevator, and hallway cameras?

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Yes. Cameras are everywhere.

azulAg said:

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He smuggled them all in suitcases

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I figured that, would be interesting to see what he has been doing the last few days.

Sheriff is going to 'shoot' for a 7pm on the next update!

aggiehawg said:

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oneeyedag said:

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At home Explosives and 18 additional guns and electronics. According to Clark county sheriff

Ready to search Northern Nevada home.

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This could have been worse. Hard to imagine but it truly could have. Guy may have been BSC but he was strategic and logistically minded.

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The fact that he had other weapons stockpiled elsewhere tells me that his original plan may NOT have included suicide (by cop) at Mandalay Bay. It is very possible that the smoke detector saved hundreds of lives over the next few weeks. The potential hole in this theory is clearly that the name on the hotel registration would lead to him fairly quickly, but he may well have had plans for hiding incognito.

Sheriff if I recall mentioned the smoke alarm was not a give away. They SWAT started on 28th floor and went up to 32nd, security approached first and was shot in leg.

aggiehawg said:

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LoudestWHOOP! said:

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Don't most casinos have front door, lobby, casino, elevator, and hallway cameras?

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Yes. Cameras are everywhere.

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"In my hotels, there is ALWAYS someone watching."

AggieHank86 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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oneeyedag said:

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At home Explosives and 18 additional guns and electronics. According to Clark county sheriff

Ready to search Northern Nevada home.

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This could have been worse. Hard to imagine but it truly could have. Guy may have been BSC but he was strategic and logistically minded.

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The fact that he had other weapons stockpiled elsewhere tells me that his original plan may NOT have included suicide (by cop) at Mandalay Bay. It is very possible that the smoke detector saved hundreds of lives over the next few weeks. The potential hole in this theory is clearly that the name on the hotel registration would lead to him fairly quickly, but he may well have had plans for hiding incognito.

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Sheriff just refuted the smoke alarm theory

I heard he may have been located by a window-break alarm.

DeepEastTxAg said:

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I heard he may have been located by a window-break alarm.

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Sheriff said a squad was going floor to floor until they encountered gun fire

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The fact that he had other weapons stockpiled elsewhere tells me that his original plan may NOT have included suicide (by cop) at Mandalay Bay. It is very possible that the smoke detector saved hundreds of lives over the next few weeks. The potential hole in this theory is clearly that the name on the hotel registration would lead to him fairly quickly, but he may well have had plans for hiding incognito.

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Or getting to his plane and doing a low flying run across the border. How he planned to exit the Mandalay once he started shooting remains a mystery to me. (Unless he had a first responder uniform of some sort and thought he could escape during the ensuing melee. Connected to the smoke alarm, maybe??)

Workplace violence. Just as SeattleAgJr predicted.

AggieHank86 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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LoudestWHOOP! said:

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Don't most casinos have front door, lobby, casino, elevator, and hallway cameras?

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Yes. Cameras are everywhere.

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"In my hotels, there is ALWAYS someone watching."

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Was going to post that gif and thought better of it. Not the time.

Want to point out that I thank you on this thread so far. You've actually been up to date on your info, posted some good editorials.

Back to lurkin' it

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The last hotel I stayed at had a hangtag which indicated that you wanted to participate in a program to save water by having housekeeping not change anything out for three days.

Maybe Mandalay Bay has a similar program.

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I'm sure it does, it's a Harrah's property. When we were there two weeks ago they gave us $30 hotel credit if didn't have the maid make the room up. And they offer to bring up clean towels 24/7.

I know guys that came back from active duty and stayed in hotels for months. Left a DND tag on the door the entire time.

azulAg said:

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Something must have set this guy off, but what ?

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Maybe Trump winning the presidency. I've been out of pocket all afternoon but early reports was that he was a ***** hat wearer and a Bernie supporter.

TexasAggie_02 said:

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oneeyedag said:

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aggiehawg said:

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oneeyedag said:

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At home Explosives and 18 additional guns and electronics. According to Clark county sheriff

Ready to search Northern Nevada home.

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This could have been worse. Hard to imagine but it truly could have. Guy may have been BSC but he was strategic and logistically minded.

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Yes! To go since the 28th pf Sep. and not have any red flags pop up says a lot abouy his preparation.

The flip side is what type of housekeepers does Mandalay bay hire?

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The kind that honors a 'do not disturb' sign

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Even with housekeeping, there's no reason for him to unpack any weapons until last night, at most a couple of hours before he started shooting. What housekeeper is going to know or care what's in his bags? He probably had locks on them too just in case.

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munch96 said:

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The last hotel I stayed at had a hangtag which indicated that you wanted to participate in a program to save water by having housekeeping not change anything out for three days.

Maybe Mandalay Bay has a similar program.

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I used to travel a lot. Most of my trips were 3-4 days, sometimes 5. I almost always kept the do not disturb sign on the door. In the off chance I ever needed a towel or two, they were not hard to get. Not sure why people act like it's some crazy red flag to stay 3 days somewhere and forego housekeeping. They're just going to make your bed and change towels. But most hotels come with more than enough towels to last 1-2 weeks for an individual.

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I mentioned earlier, the same thing.

As a matter of fact... I don't sleep in a made bed when I am at home... why would I want one when I travel.

Wycliffe_03 said:

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But most hotels come with more than enough towels to last 1-2 weeks for an individual.

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DUDE, how often do you bathe? Most of my rooms have four towels. Rarely six.

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cone said:

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the decent and kind outnumber the evil doers 1000 to 1

i really do believe that

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I really do not believe that... the world is sick. Maybe 100:1 or 50:1...

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The mistake is assuming there is no intersection between those two circles in the Venn diagram.
Make food, water, or shelter scarce and watch how quickly "decent and kind" people will shiv you. We are so decadent we don't realize we're only separated from the Katrina Superdome by the thinnest of margins. And from there it's an even smaller step back to one Australopithecene using a stick to bash another's skull.

Decency and kindness are not natural Platonic ideals known to the universe. They are a collective fantasy dreamt up by some clever mammals on one particular rock. We could very easily at any moment wake from our pleasant dream back into the reality of Nature, red of tooth and claw and utterly disinterested in our individual fate.

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munch96 said:

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The last hotel I stayed at had a hangtag which indicated that you wanted to participate in a program to save water by having housekeeping not change anything out for three days.

Maybe Mandalay Bay has a similar program.

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I'm sure it does, it's a Harrah's property. When we were there two weeks ago they gave us $30 hotel credit if didn't have the maid make the room up. And they offer to bring up clean towels 24/7.

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Mandalay is an MGM property. All Harrah's properties are owned by Caesars Entertainment.

FBI lady on CNN says this guy was calculated and on a mission. With that amount of firepower would of thought he would go out in a shootout , no ?

lol...most people use towels more than once (at home anyway).

that why they have towel rods otherwise what's the point of hanging them up? i don't think it's a decor thing - who wants to decorate with cotton towels. if people used towels once they would just throw them in the laundry instead of hanging them up. No? I mean if you are clean when you exit the shower and dry off....then the towel is still relatively clean when it dries.

azulAg said:

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Something must have set this guy off, but what ?

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This was so highly premeditated... he wasn't "set off."