In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
vmiaptetr said:
People confide in their pastors all the time. They are vulnerable, and it creates a deeper relationship with people. Gotta resist that temptation though.
That's my guess anyway.
BassCowboy33 said:
A thread on this literally one post down.
https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3467745
BassCowboy33 said:
A thread on this literally one post down.
https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3467745
BassCowboy33 said:vmiaptetr said:
People confide in their pastors all the time. They are vulnerable, and it creates a deeper relationship with people. Gotta resist that temptation though.
That's my guess anyway.
Yeah, but not all pastors are diddling a family friend's 12-year-old daughter.
I think predators naturally seek access. See also teachers, coaches, and scout leaders.dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
I would say that sexual sin is just prevalent, period. I am trying to confirm, but off the top of my head, sexual immorality has to be mentioned or called out more than any other - I think?dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
I also believe there's a "Righteous Gemstones" aspect of the clergy. It's a great position of power that you can weild over people. If you can hold spiritual sway over someone, manipulation is easy (The Crusades being the biggest example of this). Who was the girl who was getting sexually abused by the pastor some years back, and her parents sided with the pastor instead of her? It was national news for a hot minute.sealyaggies said:dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
When Satan can tempt a Pastor with sin, he impacts the world exponentially. I am sure all Pastors are under the wrath of evil temptation more than any of us can imagine.
Agree.sealyaggies said:dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
When Satan can tempt a Pastor with sin, he impacts the world exponentially. I am sure all Pastors are under the wrath of evil temptation more than any of us can imagine.
I think that's one group it seems prevalent in ....but I think there is a common thread with other positions of power. CEO's, politicians, celebs, etc. Power can be much more intoxicating than money or other worldly things. I also think that its shocking when these things are made public, but statistically, its less likely in faith based organizations than other places of power that I mentioned.dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
aggiesherpa said:
From the article, ""I learned to lie and manipulate because I also had rejection, I didn't want to be rejected," Morris said in 2014. "So I looked for the girls that would be the most susceptible. And I learned to spot that.""
So he is a self-proclaimed predator?
dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
sealyaggies said:dermdoc said:In my opinion, he is forgiven but should step down.vmiaptetr said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/robert-morris-resigns-texas-pastor-gateway-church/
My question is, why is sexual sin so prevalent among clergy?
When Satan can tempt a Pastor with sin, he impacts the world exponentially. I am sure all Pastors are under the wrath of evil temptation more than any of us can imagine.
Uhhh, glass houses and stones?Quote:
Protestants being stunned that the kind of alpha personalities that go out and build 100 million dollar plus fortunes on the back of religion also might have sexual issues sort of sums up all the issues with American Protestantism for me.
Jabin said:Uhhh, glass houses and stones?Quote:
Protestants being stunned that the kind of alpha personalities that go out and build 100 million dollar plus fortunes on the back of religion also might have sexual issues sort of sums up all the issues with American Protestantism for me.
Sex issues by clergy is a ubiquitous problem in every sect, denomination, and brand of orthodoxy.
Jabin said:
It may be the you are blind, simply perhaps uninformed, or just defensive about the EO.
Crimes of the Eastern Orthodox Church 4: Sex Abuse | In-Sight Publishing
The Sexual Abuse Crisis in Eastern Orthodoxy - OnePeterFive
Crimes of the Eastern Orthodox Church 1: Adam Metropoulos - The Good Men Project
Priest Found Guilty of Violent Sex Acts With Children at Orthodox Christian Youth Camps - Newsweek
That's just a few articles I found via a quick google search.
The factors that you recite as typical of EO priests are also factors that tend to winnow out many, except for child predators.
The low number of cases in the US may simply be the low number of EO churches and members. Additionally, there may be cultural factors within many EO churches that prevent or discourage whistleblowing.
Do you have data to support that statement or is simply an article of belief?Quote:
IT DOES NOT EXIST TO THE LEVEL OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS.
Nothing like a good ad hominem. What did I ever post that leads you to that conclusion? What do my supposed beliefs or desires have to do with any problems in the EO? Finally, are you not guilty of that which you accuse me?Quote:
I understand that you have a dog in the fight and you want to pretend that what is happening in your particular brand of Christianity is the utmost and the most perfect IN EVERY SINGLE CONCEIVABLE WAY but there's a good chance it's just not.
Jabin said:Do you have data to support that statement or is simply an article of belief?Quote:
IT DOES NOT EXIST TO THE LEVEL OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS.
OK, right. Very persuasive.CrackerJackAg said:Jabin said:Do you have data to support that statement or is simply an article of belief?Quote:
IT DOES NOT EXIST TO THE LEVEL OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS.
The most general and basic of knowledge and logic applies.
That said I have seen data on these issues within The Church but it wasn't in an on line forum.
You can do your own research if you want though.
The reason I listed are good enough for me.
Jabin said:OK, right. Very persuasive.CrackerJackAg said:Jabin said:Do you have data to support that statement or is simply an article of belief?Quote:
IT DOES NOT EXIST TO THE LEVEL OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS.
The most general and basic of knowledge and logic applies.
That said I have seen data on these issues within The Church but it wasn't in an on line forum.
You can do your own research if you want though.
The reason I listed are good enough for me.
Although that's true in some and perhaps many Protestant churches, it's definitely not true of all.Quote:
In Protestant churches I've been involved in they are sort of family affairs a good bit of the time. No qualifications at all to start the church. Hiring friends and again people with no actual qualifications.