L.A.’s Major League Baseball is inviting the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, drag street performance group to accept a “community hero award” on the field of Dodger Stadium at LGBTQ+ Pride Night on June 16.
This is one of their performance. pic.twitter.com/XvnR9BtAkc

— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) May 24, 2023

Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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RAB91 said:

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These are the kind of people that Sapper is supporting.

L.A.’s Major League Baseball is inviting the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, drag street performance group to accept a “community hero award” on the field of Dodger Stadium at LGBTQ+ Pride Night on June 16.
This is one of their performance. pic.twitter.com/XvnR9BtAkc

— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) May 24, 2023

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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jrico2727 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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Encouraging and promoting sodomy seems like a great way to stop AIDS

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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jrico2727 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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Encouraging and promoting sodomy seems like a great way to stop AIDS

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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Sapper Redux said:

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jrico2727 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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Encouraging and promoting sodomy seems like a great way to stop AIDS

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Yeah, this is the stuff that did so much to help those suffering. I will say there were a number of individual priests and nuns who did great things during the early years of the epidemic, but this is the stuff which did so much to help kill people.

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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Wow! I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant and proud example of anti-religious bigotry.

Seriously? Some random activist group did more than hundreds of hospitals full of medical professionals all doing their absolute best to help people with a new and unknown illness? I don't even know what to say

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jrico2727 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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jrico2727 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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Encouraging and promoting sodomy seems like a great way to stop AIDS

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Yeah, this is the stuff that did so much to help those suffering. I will say there were a number of individual priests and nuns who did great things during the early years of the epidemic, but this is the stuff which did so much to help kill people.

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How so? Speaking truth to the situation, if a certain activity, within a particular group, leads to predictable results. Why would telling them to not engage in that activity be killing them? Seems like the opposite would have happened had they listened.

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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I was a resident at Baylor College of Medicine at the time. Did skin biopsies for some of Fauci's studies. Even got published on an article describing lymphocyte changes before we discovered the viruses. Every doc I know worked their asses off trying to figure it out and find a cure. And every AIDS patient we took care of was treated with compassion even though there wa little we could except palliative care.

And the gay population refused to listen to any docs or wear condoms. Instead they cried victimhood and oppression.

You have zero idea what you are talking about.

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dermdoc said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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Sorry but this makes me mad.

I was a resident at Baylor College of Medicine at the time. Did skin biopsies for some of Fauci's studies. Even got published on an article describing lymphocyte changes before we discovered the viruses. Every doc I know worked their asses off trying to figure it out and find a cure. And every AIDS patient we took care of was treated with compassion even though there wa little we could except palliative care.

And the gay population refused to listen to any docs or wear condoms. Instead they cried victimhood and oppression.

You have zero idea what you are talking about.

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I have a pretty good idea.

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dermdoc said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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Wow! I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant and proud example of anti-religious bigotry.

Seriously? Some random activist group did more than hundreds of hospitals full of medical professionals all doing their absolute best to help people with a new and unknown illness? I don't even know what to say

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Yep. It is sad. He really, really hates religion. Sad.

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Sapper Redux said:

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dermdoc said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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Wow! I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant and proud example of anti-religious bigotry.

Seriously? Some random activist group did more than hundreds of hospitals full of medical professionals all doing their absolute best to help people with a new and unknown illness? I don't even know what to say

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Yep. It is sad. He really, really hates religion. Sad.

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I don't hate religion. But I'm also not deferential to religious organizations and their pearl clutching while ignoring their own history.

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Thaddeus73 said:

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The Catholic Church invented free hospitals, orphanages, and the University system, and were innovators in land reclamation, metallurgy, brewing, and transcribing the Bible.

So, I'm pretty proud of our history.

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Thaddeus73 said:

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The Catholic Church invented free hospitals, orphanages, and the University system, and were innovators in land reclamation, metallurgy, brewing, and transcribing the Bible.

So, I'm pretty proud of our history.

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Seems like you're being a touch selective.

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Sapper Redux said:

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dermdoc said:

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dermdoc said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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Wow! I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant and proud example of anti-religious bigotry.

Seriously? Some random activist group did more than hundreds of hospitals full of medical professionals all doing their absolute best to help people with a new and unknown illness? I don't even know what to say

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Yep. It is sad. He really, really hates religion. Sad.

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I don't hate religion. But I'm also not deferential to religious organizations and their pearl clutching while ignoring their own history.

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And you and your side do not pearl clutch? And I am not deferential to political takes on health care.

You are a hypocrite.

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How is my position hypocritical?

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dermdoc said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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dermdoc said:

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dermdoc said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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ramblin_ag02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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That group did more good for LGBTQ people during the AIDS epidemic than the Catholic Church has ever done.

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I'm not if you are aware, but there are more than 600 Catholic hospitals. There were even more in the 80s and 90s

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I stand by what I said. The medical care provided to most AIDS patients in the 80s was hardly worth praising.

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Wow! I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant and proud example of anti-religious bigotry.

Seriously? Some random activist group did more than hundreds of hospitals full of medical professionals all doing their absolute best to help people with a new and unknown illness? I don't even know what to say

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Yep. It is sad. He really, really hates religion. Sad.

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I don't hate religion. But I'm also not deferential to religious organizations and their pearl clutching while ignoring their own history.

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And you and your side do not pearl clutch? And I am not deferential to political takes on health care.

You are a hypocrite.

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How is my position hypocritical?

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What is your position? It seems that you are claiming that a small activist group did more to help AIDS patients than the Catholic Church and hospitals and doctors.

And that you "have a pretty good idea" of what was going on during the AIDS deal and yet give no history of actually working in medicine or dealing with AIDS patients. Where do you get your supposed knowledge of what was going on?

Maybe it is more arrogance than hypocrisy.

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I am discussing the criticism levied for their reaction to a specific event which resulted in the creation of the group causing so much angst. I'm not talking about the entire history of the Catholic Church. The immediate fall back to a selective list of positives doesn't address the issue at play here. Dealing with the full history of the Church and nuance in the list of accomplishments and failures would take a much longer thread than this.

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