Powerful homily. I pray that more Priests will be as vocal as Father David.
Lola68 said:
Sorry. Wrong link.
Howdy Dammit said:
Sadly, they aren't really Catholic. Church is filled with those. Raised with the faith but without the conviction.
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If they are baptized Catholic, they are so for all eternity. To say otherwise is to deny another teaching of the church.
Are you implying that Catholics should be against the legality of birth control?newbie11 said:
As a non Catholic….how do some Catholics resolve the issue of voting Democrat when your religion specifically denounces birth control, abortion, etc?
larry culpepper said:Are you implying that Catholics should be against the legality of birth control?newbie11 said:
As a non Catholic….how do some Catholics resolve the issue of voting Democrat when your religion specifically denounces birth control, abortion, etc?
Howdy Dammit said:
Sadly, they aren't really Catholic. Church is filled with those. Raised with the faith but without the conviction.
Likely because, aside from abortion, there are numerous items that democrats advocate for that align with their views, e.g. abolition of the death penalty, social welfare programs, etc.newbie11 said:
As a non Catholic….how do some Catholics resolve the issue of voting Democrat when your religion specifically denounces birth control, abortion, etc?
There is something to be said about proportionality, all those issues are good, but how do you stack all of them against a 50 years of prenatal genocide. Kinda hard to build up the Kingdom when supporting those issues gives power to those who prevent so many from ever taking a breath, and receiving the sacraments, not to mention the damage it does to their mothers and fathers. I don't like the republican party or even party politics, but there is a clear choice when it comes to which is most morally evil and who supports not only infanticide but most other forms of degeneracy as well.PabloSerna said:
I think what happens for some folks, is that they see abortion and nothing else. I certainly am in agreement with the RCC on that and the RCC's position on immigration, the environment, preferential option for the poor, gun violence, and other social justice issues. That is where the rift is.
It would seem that my GOP Catholic brothers and sisters are one issue only. I can respect that, I just don't think they can respect the fact that I have a broader view about how I go about my life trying to build up the kingdom of God in my neck of the woods.
HTH
PabloSerna said:
I think what happens for some folks, is that they see abortion and nothing else. I certainly am in agreement with the RCC on that and the RCC's position on immigration, the environment, preferential option for the poor, gun violence, and other social justice issues. That is where the rift is.
It would seem that my GOP Catholic brothers and sisters are one issue only. I can respect that, I just don't think they can respect the fact that I have a broader view about how I go about my life trying to build up the kingdom of God in my neck of the woods.
HTH
PabloSerna said:Howdy Dammit said:
Sadly, they aren't really Catholic. Church is filled with those. Raised with the faith but without the conviction.
Nice judgement there. You should skip right through purgatory and into heaven with that mentality.
I think you've identified some of the rifts quite well: "immigration, the environment, preferential option for the poor, gun violence, and other social justice issues"PabloSerna said:
I think what happens for some folks, is that they see abortion and nothing else. I certainly am in agreement with the RCC on that and the RCC's position on immigration, the environment, preferential option for the poor, gun violence, and other social justice issues. That is where the rift is.
It would seem that my GOP Catholic brothers and sisters are one issue only. I can respect that, I just don't think they can respect the fact that I have a broader view about how I go about my life trying to build up the kingdom of God in my neck of the woods.
HTH
BiochemAg97 said:
Agree as followers of Christ (not just Catholics), we bare some responsibility for the actions of officials we elect.
However, I think single issue voting becomes a problem. Like you said, a pro life candidate should not automatically get you vote. Certainly a pro life candidate who is actively against Christ's teachings in multiple other areas is probably not a responsible choice.
Zobel said:
Cooperation in the sinful act of another by material support which is remote, that is, not intimately connected to the evil act is sinful. However, under certain conditions it can be tolerated.
The act by which cooperation is rendered is not itself sinful; that is, it has two effects; the good one is chosen, the bad one is tolerated.