Oh look, more name calling. I don't want any of your dad's money, and don't gamble on the Ags, or anything else. At least for a while you were funny.Aggrad08 said:
You are a troll, and will remain one. And if you don't believe me how much money you willing to put on it
Correct, trends that have been present, and accelerating, for decades now.Ol_Ag_02 said:
We're violent because we don't emphasize that all life is precious and that every single man, woman, and child is created in the image of God.
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As Christian Adams wrote in 2018: Flashback 30 Years: Guns Were in Schools… and Nothing Happened.Quote:
What changed? The mainstreaming of nihilism. Cultural decay. Chemicals. The deliberate destruction of moral backstops in the culture. A lost commonality of shared societal pressures to enforce right and wrong. And above all, simple, pure, evil.
Before you retort that we can't account for the mentally ill, they existed forever.
Paranoid schizophrenics existed in 1888 and 2018. Mentally ill students weren't showing up in schools with guns even three decades ago.
So it must be something else.
Those who have been so busy destroying the moral backstops in our culture won't want to have this conversation. They'll do what they do mock the truth.
There was a time in America, before the Snowflakes, when any adult on the block could reprimand a neighborhood kid who was out of line without fear.
Even thirty years ago, the culture still had invisible restraints developed over centuries. Those restraints, those leveling commonalities, were the target of a half-century of attack by the freewheeling counterculture that has now become the dominant replacement culture.
Hollywood made fun of these restraints in films too numerous to list.
The sixties mantra "don't trust anyone over thirty" has become a billion-dollar industry devoted to the child always being right a sometimes deeply medicated brat who disrupts the classroom or escapes what used to be resolved with a paddling.
Instead of telling the kid to quit kicking the back of the seat on a plane, we buy seat guards to protect the seat.
If you think it's bad now, just wait until the generation whose babysitter is an iPhone is in high school. You can hardly walk around Walmart these days without tripping over a toddler in a trance, staring at a screen.
The high school kids who shot rifles in school in 1985 were taught right and wrong. They were taught what to do with their rifle in school, and what not to do. If they got out of line, all the other students and the coach would have come down on them hard. There were no safe spaces, and that was a good thing.
Ol_Ag_02 said:
We're violent because we don't emphasize that all life is precious and that every single man, woman, and child is created in the image of God.
Please name a couple of these countries - I'll bet every one of them has advantages that the "violent" secular countries lack.Sapper Redux said:Ol_Ag_02 said:
We're violent because we don't emphasize that all life is precious and that every single man, woman, and child is created in the image of God.
Far more secular countries have far, far less violence.
Rongagin71 said:Please name a couple of these countries - I'll bet every one of them has advantages that the "violent" secular countries lack.Sapper Redux said:Ol_Ag_02 said:
We're violent because we don't emphasize that all life is precious and that every single man, woman, and child is created in the image of God.
Far more secular countries have far, far less violence.
This is like me saying "far more secular countries have far, far more violence".
This is where I resort to the old Nortex happy crier - if you really think crime rates from out of control, often anti-police cities, are valid as compared to cities that actually collect crime data at a much higher rate of competency than the poorly run Dem-monopolized cities.Sapper Redux said:
Chicago is always the boogeyman. Funny that. Can't imagine why. It's violent crime rates are far better than many cities and counties in red states.
63 million babies have been killed in abortions. No wonder our nation has a lack of respect for human life.
— LifeNews.com (@LifeNewsHQ) May 29, 2022
Bruh I'm looking at the history of school shootings. Mind-blowing, kids brought guns to school until the 70s.
— Revisionist History (@Mast3rmo) May 25, 2022
Only 3 school mass shootings between 1903-1966.
What happened?
(Didnt take off until the 90s)
Yes, a good, thoughtful twitter thread. Kind of weird.swimmerbabe11 said:Bruh I'm looking at the history of school shootings. Mind-blowing, kids brought guns to school until the 70s.
— Revisionist History (@Mast3rmo) May 25, 2022
Only 3 school mass shootings between 1903-1966.
What happened?
(Didnt take off until the 90s)
America leading the world in substance abuse disorder. Theres Over reliance on pharma.
— Revisionist History (@Mast3rmo) May 25, 2022
Dealing with depression and bullying with extreme outcomes IE killing yourself or killing others. (that's also new and unusual) pic.twitter.com/aMZre9ch69
https://t.co/RkLTk1nBEO
— Revisionist History (@Mast3rmo) May 25, 2022
Threadception
https://t.co/df0DLjuP92
— Revisionist History (@Mast3rmo) May 26, 2022
Worth also noting the countries with the highest homicide rate (most in southern hemisphere) have strict gun bans
Afghan insurgents with only AKs did is this a serious argument?Macarthur said:
Here's another thing that bugs the hell out of me.
What are these guys doing with body armor? So no red flags should go up that somebody buys a couple of AR's, over 300 rounds of ammo and some body armor?
Wonder if Jews in Germany wish they had guns circa ww2...What about Cambodians during POL POTS reign ...Is this a serious argument?larry culpepper said:
The whole idea of "I have muh guns to fight the tyrannical gubbment" is nothing more than a stupid fantasy, almost as stupid as Texas seceding.
It made sense in the 18th century when we were being harassed by a British monarch. But it's such a silly idea now. You have every right to protect yourself and your family but please stop it with this fantasy about you and your well armed friends overthrowing the democrats or something.
And a bunch of kids being murdered in a classroom isn't an acceptable price to pay for this fantasy.
What colonial college to you teach at?Sapper Redux said:Ol_Ag_02 said:Macarthur said:
There's no single thing to point to but it is clear that we have a sickness.
This is being reported as the gun dealer that sold the gun to the kid in Uvalde. If you don't see this as a part of this sickness, you need to do some soul searching.
Well.
For starters the kid in the picture appears to have a father in his life. This man Ramos, did not.
The Columbine shooters had active fathers in their lives. And overall violence is down over preceding generations, which suggests your preferred argument may be little leaky.
Care to post the demographics of this violence?Sapper Redux said:Rongagin71 said:Please name a couple of these countries - I'll bet every one of them has advantages that the "violent" secular countries lack.Sapper Redux said:Ol_Ag_02 said:
We're violent because we don't emphasize that all life is precious and that every single man, woman, and child is created in the image of God.
Far more secular countries have far, far less violence.
This is like me saying "far more secular countries have far, far more violence".
Look up any other developed nation. We are unusually religious amongst the developed world and we are unusually violent. In fact, our most violent regions in this country also tend to be more religious.
Charles Coghlan said:What colonial college to you teach at?Sapper Redux said:Ol_Ag_02 said:Macarthur said:
There's no single thing to point to but it is clear that we have a sickness.
This is being reported as the gun dealer that sold the gun to the kid in Uvalde. If you don't see this as a part of this sickness, you need to do some soul searching.
Well.
For starters the kid in the picture appears to have a father in his life. This man Ramos, did not.
The Columbine shooters had active fathers in their lives. And overall violence is down over preceding generations, which suggests your preferred argument may be little leaky.
Charles Coghlan said:Wonder if Jews in Germany wish they had guns circa ww2...What about Cambodians during POL POTS reign ...Is this a serious argument?larry culpepper said:
The whole idea of "I have muh guns to fight the tyrannical gubbment" is nothing more than a stupid fantasy, almost as stupid as Texas seceding.
It made sense in the 18th century when we were being harassed by a British monarch. But it's such a silly idea now. You have every right to protect yourself and your family but please stop it with this fantasy about you and your well armed friends overthrowing the democrats or something.
And a bunch of kids being murdered in a classroom isn't an acceptable price to pay for this fantasy.
Sapper Redux said:
And yet people can't own lightening and use it against other people. Mass shootings is one metric. If you want to talk gun violence in general we're even worse off than the rest of the developed world. Believe it or not, they have gangs and drugs in places like France and Germany and they still don't come close to our levels of gun violence. Of course, a lot of that gun violence is intimate partner violence and there's a lot of suicide as well. Suicide attempts are far less deadly in places with fewer guns.
Sapper Redux said:
Chicago is always the boogeyman. Funny that. Can't imagine why. It's violent crime rates are far better than many cities and counties in red states.
Chicago has a lower per capita crime rate than Nashville, Anchorage, Little Rock, St. Louis, Springfield, MO, Cleveland, and 13 other American cities.chap said:Sapper Redux said:
Chicago is always the boogeyman. Funny that. Can't imagine why. It's violent crime rates are far better than many cities and counties in red states.
Holy crap. I've been on vacation and off texags. But what is this? And I assume the five likes are jokesters??