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I just stated that it's interesting.

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Sounds like 9/11 truthers who claim that "look, I just think it's interesting how building 7 fell".

Why is that? Scientists have studied the effects of meth on the human body. I've yet to see any that indicate that meth leads to genetic mutations, much less genetic mutations that cause homosexuality.

If meth is inclining "some gay men to have their first experience", you are already conceding that they were already gay. They just hadn't had their first experience. So, the meth doesn't make them gay. They were already gay.

And not all people who have same-sex experiences are gay, as already laid out to you. You are talking about things (LGBTQIA community specifically) of which you are ignorant.

It's shocking that this is even a debate. Scripture is clear that it is sin. People should be ashamed to have become so corrupted by the world.

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Ephesians 5:3-12 (ESV): But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. 5 For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not become partners with them; 8 for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), 10 and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord
11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret.

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This whole thread has people trying to use empty words to stir up people to disobedience.

Thank you for those with the courage still to expose them.

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Sodomy is a sin period. Also gross.

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This is a bit of a throwback but do you think blowjobs are gross and sinful? Or are you only talking about one particular kind of sodomy?

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Your pooper is for pooping. Stop trying to redefine words. Everyone knows what sodomy is and you are being deceptive.

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The fact that you don't know what sodomy means doesn't mean that other people are trying to change the definition.

A few sources I've found indicate that the actual answer to my question is that while the English word "sodomy" includes oral sex, the original untranslated words used in the Bible referred only anal sex between men. Thanks for the help.

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Lie all you want. It's a broad term, and doesnt refer to one act, but rather a range of acts, in context it's about homosexuality. I made a statement of fact about one of those acts. I'm sure gay means happy too. Peoples understanding of the term has changed over the years, but all sexual impurity is wrong. I was clear about that with my post above. I prefer not to use your nasty language.

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Wait, you think anal is a worse word than pooper? One is a medical term. This is why sex ed is important. Without it you end up with grown (I assume) men who are afraid to talk about their private parts.

I'm curious which part of what I wrote was the lie.

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Nice try. I'm just trying to not roll around in the mud. I'm not going to name every act or "educate" people on degeneracy. I'm not saying we should be afraid to address any topic. I felt like you were just trying to be vulgar. I didn't like the nasty direction the convo was going. God bless. I hope you repent.

You tried to make it look like I didn't know what it was, when really I was just being cautious on saying the things I know for a fact are wrong.

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Sodomy is a sin period. Also gross.

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This is a bit of a throwback but do you think blowjobs are gross and sinful? Or are you only talking about one particular kind of sodomy?

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Your pooper is for pooping.

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As it was said by the sages of old. A gentleman and a scholar.

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You thought this sentence was an attempt at vulgarity?

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A few sources I've found indicate that the actual answer to my question is that while the English word "sodomy" includes oral sex, the original untranslated words used in the Bible referred to only anal sex between men.

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It wasnt about any particular phrase but rather the tone, and trajectory of the conversation. I wasn't going down that road with you. Going through a list of sex acts is not something I want to do with a stranger on the internet. I don't care to list off everything you can do with someone and be the arbiter of what is ok and what is not. There is a reason why the scripture isn't more graphic about it. Like I posted earlier from ephesians "For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret".

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I do have actual questions about your beliefs. Sincere questions. I have to warn you that they contain graphic language, but I hope you answer them.

Is oral sex between a husband and wife wrong? Is anal sex between a husband and wife wrong? Most of the sources I've read from Christians say that both are fine, since neither fits the biblical definition of sodomy.

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You need to read your bible, figure it out, and repent. Good day, and God speed.

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You can't be serious if you expect this level of non-engagement to actually encourage someone to read the Bible.

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Philippians 2:12 (ESV): so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling

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I don't know how to interpret this, but I'm not sure quoting the Bible at atheists is all that effective.

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Philippians 2:12 (ESV): so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling

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Yea, quoting the Bible at atheists isn't going to work either.

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Matthew 7:6 (ESV): Do not give dogs what is holy, and do not throw your pearls before pigs, lest they trample them underfoot and turn to attack you.