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*** THE ODYSSEY *** (Christopher Nolan)

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Sea Speed
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They better build that mfer big enough to throw some boulders.
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The locations in this thing really are going to be incredible...

wangus12
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Been to several of these places. Greece and its islands should be on everyone's bucket list. Incredible country
Sea Speed
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wangus12 said:

Been to several of these places. Greece and its islands should be on everyone's bucket list. Incredible country


After a decade of trying to get to the Med, my ship finally pulled in to Greece a couple of years ago.......one week after covid lockdowns started.
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TCTTS
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Here's the official post. There was all kinds of talk recently that Tom Holland was the lead, and was thus going to play Odysseus, which never made sense but somehow persisted as a strong/credible rumor, and this finally dispels that. It's Damon instead, as we originally guessed, with Holland almost assuredly playing his son…

Brian Earl Spilner
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Have to admit I'm disappointed that this is the direction Nolan went after Oppenheimer. He could've done anything and the most interesting Nolan movies are always original scripts.

Oh well.
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He'll put his "original" spin on the story, though, in how it's told (in terms of timelines, structure, etc). Also, fantasy epic is the one major genre he hasn't tackled yet (outside of straight up horror), and seeing Nolan do fantasy in a more practical, less-reliant-on-CGI way has me increasingly excited as well. Not to mention, this is the largest budget he's ever had to work with. If anything, the king of "epic" is now taking on a literal epic in the biggest, splashiest way imaginable, resulting in what will almost assuredly be a massive spectacle unlike anything we've ever seen. To me, this is definitely the smarter strategic move. He can always do something more original after this.
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Aggie_Journalist
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I was wondering the other day if this would open with the Trojan horse.

Makes sense. It establishes Odysseus' cunning and helps the audience connect the dots to "Oh, this is after the Trojan war! I've heard of that."

Is this going to be one movie or two? It's a lot of story telling to fit in The Odyssey + the horse.
Thanks and gig'em
Mr. Awesome Time
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I was wondering as well how long this would need to be to do justice to the *poem. Very excited for this; hope it doesn't suck!

Nolan might as well direct a new adaptation of A Tale of Two Cities after this.
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Just one movie, but it could easily be three hours, same as Oppenheimer.
Claude!
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You can't fit everything into a single movie, but I think it'd be relatively easy to whittle it down. They better have Odysseus's meeting with his dog Argos, though.
AGinHI
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TCTTS said:

What is it about...

... the best blockbuster director alive, fresh off winning Best Picture...

... adapting one of the most famous works of fiction in all of human history...

... featuring what looks to be one of the greatest casts ever assembled...

... that gives you "very little faith" this will be a good film?


I'm going to respond here because I share the Ghost's sentiments

Because effing Napoleon

And (more specific to the genre) Gladiator II

and Troy

and Alexander




I mean, I personally had faith, at the time, in Ridley Scott and Oliver Stone to deliver. And Troy's Wolfgang Petersen is no slouch, but alas

I would still choose the original Clash of the Titans and Jason and the Argonauts over their epic, ancient Greece era, films.

But I will find myself having hope yet again, reading all the overly effusive hype posted right here and maybe, just maybe, a modern ancient Greece era movie will supplant repeated re-watchings of 300 and a couple of movies 40 to 60 years old.
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Ridley Scott hasn't made a great movie in a long time. He's had some decent movies but nothing great in a while so, expecting a lot from Napoleon or Gladiator II was not wise.

Same for Oliver Stone and Alexander.

And Wolfgang Peterson's Troy is a movie very in line with his filmography.

And that's kind of what I expect from Nolan, something in line with his filmography…which is good to excellent. He could disappoint, sure, but even his movies that don't live up to the hype are more interesting or fun than most other movies coming out these days.
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Why on earth would any of those movies trump the Nolan factor? Their track record is irrelevant. No matter the genre… biopic… drama… magic… time travel… sci-fi… spy… superhero… time travel… war… Nolan always delivers, maybe more so than any director working today. At this point I don't understand why anyone wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt, to a massive degree?
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Beat me to it.
AGinHI
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TCTTS said:

Why on earth would any of those movies trump the Nolan factor? Their track record is irrelevant. No matter the genre… biopic… drama… magic… time travel… sci-fi… spy… superhero… time travel… war… Nolan always delivers, maybe more so than any director working today. At this point I don't understand why anyone wouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt, to a massive degree?
I disagree. Here are two films that I didn't find good or excellent, but just okay:

Tenet was a hard to follow, and more importantly, hard to hear movie which ruined an interesting story once I figured out what was going on.

And Dunkirk - not as good a people made it out to be. Kind of underwhelming to be exact.

The biggest influence in my lack of faith, however, is lately movies I have had high expectations for have flopped.

If y'all grew up with Tolkein and, in addition to the books, every year watched The Hobbit and the 1978 animated LOTR when they came on television, you know the excitement for Peter Jackson's trilogy.

Or, similarly, Dune, the 1984 film and anticipation of Denis Villeneuve's vision, which turned out better than I could have ever imagined. Two excellent movies.

Well, the Odyssey, is right up there for me and it's hard not to think

Don't eff it up.

Yes, I'm glad Nolan is at the helm, but I feel I have been burned too many times in general, which has lowered expectations regardless of who is involved.
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I find the lower my expectations, the more I tend to enjoy a film. Marketing makes every movie look like it's going to be an all-timer, setting a bar that movies rarely meet. It sucks to buy into hype and be disappointed.

When a new movie is coming out, I'll watch the trailers to get a sense for if it is a subject I'm interested in.
And then i'll check the reviews (and Texags) to make sure it doesn't suck before spending my dime.
Thanks and gig'em
Urban Ag
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This thread is hilarious. This is a film nearly 1.5 years from release with one of the best in the industry at the helm and the hand wringing is off the charts.

You'd think Kathleen Kennedy was in charge.

AGinHI
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You're interpreting boredom, idle chatter, and Texags entertainment for something of consequence.


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Here's the thing.

Biopic on mastermind behind the atomic bomb. Super interesting.

Mcconaughey, water planets, and space. Super interesting.

A dark, twisted take on Batman. Super interesting.

Homer's Odyssey, a story that has been retold countless times and brings all the super pretentious literature nerds.
Let me tell you, that REALLY gets me excited…
PatAg
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Urban Ag said:

This thread is hilarious. This is a film nearly 1.5 years from release with one of the best in the industry at the helm and the hand wringing is off the charts.

You'd think Kathleen Kennedy was in charge.


Dont summon her!
TCTTS
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You really think that Nolan, of all people, is going to do a standard adaptation/tell the same old story in the same old way?

After 25 years of consistently delivering some of the greatest movies of all time, the Nolan doubt in this thread is remarkable, if not insane.
veryfuller
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I agree. You'd think this board in particular would be excited about a filmmaker being given a huge budget and excellent cast, who's sole "agenda" has always been to tell good stories that entertain and who has delivered on that more consistently than almost any other filmmaker working right now. And if not excited at least understanding of those who are.

I do get that Hollywood has a bad track record as of late with over promising and under delivering, but there are a handful of filmmakers who have my trust and Nolan is at the top of that list. James Cameron, Villeneuve, Gerwig, Coogler are just a few others who have proven the ability to deliver something special, so I look forward to their movies.
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Quote:

And Dunkirk - not as good a people made it out to be. Kind of underwhelming to be exact.


Adding you to the "people with bad opinions" list
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AGinHI said:


Tenet was a hard to follow, and more importantly, hard to hear movie which ruined an interesting story once I figured out what was going on.

And Dunkirk - not as good a people made it out to be. Kind of underwhelming to be exact.
I'll give you Tenet. Nolan kind of disappeared up his own ass on that one. But Dunkirk? Now I just don't think you like good movies.

So, for me, that's Memento, Insomniac, Batman Begins, The Prestige, The Dark Knight, Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, Interstellar, Dunkirk, and Oppenheimer with Tenet being the one that didn't resonate with me at all. I'd say that hit rate is unlike anyone else currently making movies, aside from Villeneuve and Tarantino. And his epic 3-hour long biopic with absolutely zero action was one of the most engaging movies I've seen in the last several years, winning him Best Picture, Best Director, and many other awards.

We aren't getting a director after a decade of falling into mediocrity. We are getting one of the best directors of all time, at the height of his career, bringing a true epic to the big screen. I'm all in.

Also, I constantly lament the lack of true epics coming out of Hollywood. Anytime i'm given one, I get excited.
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AGinHI
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I've been on TexAgs some 27 years

And I finally made somebody's list!

maxag42
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Watching Oppenheimer a second time and it just reminds me how brilliant Christopher Nolan really is. Odyssey might not be my cup of tea but I will be watching it at the theatre because of him.
Chipotlemonger
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Yep, Nolan movies have earned the prestige of being must watches in theater.
LMCane
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wangus12 said:

Been to several of these places. Greece and its islands should be on everyone's bucket list. Incredible country

heading there in 2026

which are the best locations I can get to using ferries?
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You can get to pretty much any island using the ferries, but they can be a little slow. We used Aegean Air to get around and the flights were basically the same price as a ferry ticket. Usually around 45 euros per flight (we had light carry on luggage).

I wouldn't recommend Santorini unless its on your bucket list. Its incredibly crowded and expensive with tourists. Not a bad place to visit, but just not my flavor.

Naxos and Paros are less crowded and just as beautiful with far better beaches. Tinos is great for hiking. Crete is incredible and huge with everything you could want to do, but its also the farthest south and takes time to get there.

The Ionian islands like Corfu and Kefalonia are also great, but are on the other side of the country.
 
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