Makes sense, coddle for 10 years and then leave him to die.

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Maybe if you don't want accusations of racism or bigotry, stop hyper fixating on the black actress because she isn't perfectly white enough.

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I don't think the issue is that Nyong'o is black, the issue is that she's unattractive bordering on ugly.

If they had cast Beyonce' as Helen, do you think you'd hear a complaint about her skin color?

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Exactly...to be fair, you may hear some initial critique's that it was unrealistic if she was the only non-white or meditterranean person cast...but if it was revealed that it was a diverse cast...I don't think many people would be complaining if her or someone like Zoe Saldana was cast.

I just can't wait until this happens with a traditional black/latino/'insert race or ethnic group here' story though. The complaining would be off the charts. We know it won't happen though. I think it's the racial double standard that may bother a few people a bit.

Imagine John Cena playing an ancient Aztec or Mayan warrior lol

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That's the great irony here.

One of the most Christian-coded blockbusters ever comes along, and certain so-called "Christians" rage against it because of a couple of minor casting choices that hardly even register while actually watching the movie itself.

The movie is basically a Trojan horse for traditional/Christian values, and a bunch of culture-war-obsessed pearl-clutchers are so consumed by their endless *****ing and moaning that they can't see the forest for the tress.

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Tolerance isn't a Christian value.

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As true or as gray as that sentiment may be, you're still making a subjective judgment call on who/what to tolerate. You're pro-actively deciding what YOU deem to be wrong/evil - and thus what to tolerate - and then act as if it's a righteous action based on God's ruling/judgement, when it's actually your own.

Not to mention, a number of posters here express their intolerance in some of the most repugnant, least Christian ways I've ever seen. One would think a Christian, while of course called to "hate the sin," so to speak, would at least treat the "sinner" with more empathy/love than many here do. As opposed to the hate, disgust, and gleeful mockery many here indulge in.

And look, to an extent, I get it. The worst of the trans community is just as bad in the opposite direction, and are absolutely worth fighting, shouting down, etc. But not all of them. Not anywhere close. Especially if it really is a mental disorder that they're suffering from, considering that's not something any of them asked for. That right there is cause for empathy first, then adjusting accordingly based on how "militant" they are in views, re: transitioning kids, insisting that "men" can get pregnant, etc.

Either way, intolerance of the sort you're speaking about doesn't have to translate to "being an ******* on a message board." Especially considering a number of people here clearly support "Christian values" while being some of the worst representatives for Christ imaginable.

TCTTS said:

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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TCTTS said:

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That's the great irony here.

One of the most Christian-coded blockbusters ever comes along, and certain so-called "Christians" rage against it because of a couple of minor casting choices that hardly even register while actually watching the movie itself.

The movie is basically a Trojan horse for traditional/Christian values, and a bunch of culture-war-obsessed pearl-clutchers are so consumed by their endless *****ing and moaning that they can't see the forest for the tress.

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Tolerance isn't a Christian value.

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As true or as gray as that sentiment may be, you're still making a subjective judgment call on who/what to tolerate. You're pro-actively deciding what YOU deem to be wrong/evil - and thus what to tolerate - and then act as if it's a righteous action based on God's ruling/judgement, when it's actually your own.

Not to mention, a number of posters here express their intolerance in some of the most repugnant, least Christian ways I've ever seen. One would think a Christian, while of course called to "hate the sin," so to speak, would at least treat the "sinner" with more empathy/love than many here do. As opposed to the hate, disgust, and gleeful mockery many here indulge in.

And look, to an extent, I get it. The worst of the trans community is just as bad in the opposite direction, and are absolutely worth fighting, shouting down, etc. But not all of them. Not anywhere close. Especially if it really is a mental disorder that they're suffering from, considering that's not something any of them asked for. That right there is cause for empathy first, then adjusting accordingly based on how "militant" they are in views, re: transitioning kids, insisting that "men" can get pregnant, etc.

Either way, intolerance of the sort you're speaking about doesn't have to translate to "being an ******* on a message board." Especially considering a number of people here clearly support "Christian values" while being some of the worst representatives for Christ imaginable.

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I don't think anyone is being an *******, there are lots of people that just think the cast was poorly chosen. It's sort of a big pet of making a masterpiece and Nolan more held up his cast choices rather than them adding richness to the story.

Especially the fringe choices.

TCTTS said:

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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TCTTS said:

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That's the great irony here.

One of the most Christian-coded blockbusters ever comes along, and certain so-called "Christians" rage against it because of a couple of minor casting choices that hardly even register while actually watching the movie itself.

The movie is basically a Trojan horse for traditional/Christian values, and a bunch of culture-war-obsessed pearl-clutchers are so consumed by their endless *****ing and moaning that they can't see the forest for the tress.

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Tolerance isn't a Christian value.

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As true or as gray as that sentiment may be, you're still making a subjective judgment call on who/what to tolerate. You're pro-actively deciding what YOU deem to be wrong/evil - and thus what to tolerate - and then act as if it's a righteous action based on God's ruling/judgement, when it's actually your own.

Not to mention, a number of posters here express their intolerance in some of the most repugnant, least Christian ways I've ever seen. One would think a Christian, while of course called to "hate the sin," so to speak, would at least treat the "sinner" with more empathy/love than many here do. As opposed to the hate, disgust, and gleeful mockery many here indulge in.

And look, to an extent, I get it. The worst of the trans community is just as bad in the opposite direction, and are absolutely worth fighting, shouting down, etc. But not all of them. Not anywhere close. Especially if it really is a mental disorder that they're suffering from, considering that's not something any of them asked for. That right there is cause for empathy first, then adjusting accordingly based on how "militant" they are in views, re: transitioning kids, insisting that "men" can get pregnant, etc.

Either way, intolerance of the sort you're speaking about doesn't have to translate to "being an ******* on a message board." Especially considering a number of people here clearly support "Christian values" while being some of the worst representatives for Christ imaginable.

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Dude, where it the "hate" directed at Elliot Page on here? Or trans people? By and large, it's just people mocking the absurdity of the casting decision. SHE'S A 5'1" FEMALE. She does not look nor sound like a man. IMO, this was obviously either (a) a DEI hire, or (b) a loyalty hire...or killed both birds with one stone.

I think a lot of people feel sorry for those with true gender dysphoria....which is vastly different from people like the "It's MA'AM" dude...who seem to get off acting out their fetishes of cross dressing like women and making as much of a scene as possible. But I would hate to have a condition where my brain is convinced I am a member of the opposite sex...or where I just couldn't at all be happy in my body or own skin.

If you're asking us to never engage in poking a little fun at people ever, you're asking men to stop being men on the golf course, on hunting trips etc.

When I encounter trans people in the real world (almost never - but happened to me twice at a department store recently within the span of a month or so), I treat them with nothing but love and respect. I want to make their day happier. But that doesn't mean I leave the place believing that person is a woman, or thinking they would be great in the next Rocky Balboa movie.

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This part of his post
The entire movie is rooted in what Nolan terms "Zeus' law." That law is: "Treat others as you would want to be treated, because anyone might be a god." Now, clearly, there's nothing like that in Greek mythology. It's not implicit in Homer. It's a direct rip from Biblical morality, substituting "because anyone might be a god" for "because man was made in the image of God.
is complete hogwash. Sure it is paralleled with Christian beliefs but the Greeks absolutely had their own belief that "anyone could be a god" so treat strangers with hospitality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenia_(Greek)

The idea that this is some specifically Christian coded is a tenuous assertion at best unless Nolan specifically comes back to say that was his intent.

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That's why knowing the source material matters. This is part of why Sisyphus is tortured so in the afterlife. He murdered travelers who should be under his protection.

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TCTTS said:

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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TCTTS said:

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That's the great irony here.

One of the most Christian-coded blockbusters ever comes along, and certain so-called "Christians" rage against it because of a couple of minor casting choices that hardly even register while actually watching the movie itself.

The movie is basically a Trojan horse for traditional/Christian values, and a bunch of culture-war-obsessed pearl-clutchers are so consumed by their endless *****ing and moaning that they can't see the forest for the tress.

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Tolerance isn't a Christian value.

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As true or as gray as that sentiment may be, you're still making a subjective judgment call on who/what to tolerate. You're pro-actively deciding what YOU deem to be wrong/evil - and thus what to tolerate - and then act as if it's a righteous action based on God's ruling/judgement, when it's actually your own.

Not to mention, a number of posters here express their intolerance in some of the most repugnant, least Christian ways I've ever seen. One would think a Christian, while of course called to "hate the sin," so to speak, would at least treat the "sinner" with more empathy/love than many here do. As opposed to the hate, disgust, and gleeful mockery many here indulge in.

And look, to an extent, I get it. The worst of the trans community is just as bad in the opposite direction, and are absolutely worth fighting, shouting down, etc. But not all of them. Not anywhere close. Especially if it really is a mental disorder that they're suffering from, considering that's not something any of them asked for. That right there is cause for empathy first, then adjusting accordingly based on how "militant" they are in views, re: transitioning kids, insisting that "men" can get pregnant, etc.

Either way, intolerance of the sort you're speaking about doesn't have to translate to "being an ******* on a message board." Especially considering a number of people here clearly support "Christian values" while being some of the worst representatives for Christ imaginable.

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Dude, where it the "hate" directed at Elliot Page on here? Or trans people? By and large, it's just people mocking the absurdity of the casting decision. SHE'S A 5'1" FEMALE. She does not look nor sound like a man. IMO, this was obviously either (a) a DEI hire, or (b) a loyalty hire...or killed both birds with one stone.

I think a lot of people feel sorry for those with true gender dysphoria....which is vastly different from people like the "It's MA'AM" dude...who seem to get off acting out their fetishes of cross dressing like women and making as much of a scene as possible. But I would hate to have a condition where my brain is convinced I am a member of the opposite sex...or where I just couldn't at all be happy in my body or own skin.

If you're asking us to never engage in poking a little fun at people ever, you're asking men to stop being men on the golf course, on hunting trips etc.

When I encounter trans people in the real world (almost never - but happened to me twice at a department store recently), I treat them with nothing but love and respect. I want to make their day happier. But that doesn't mean I leave the place believing that person is a woman, or thinking they would be great in the next Rocky Balboa movie.

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This is honestly great to hear, and I genuinely mean that. I wasn't talking about you, seeing as you're new to the thread. But after over the course of months and 116 pages, there has absolutely been some repugnant **** said about trans people here. Did I write it all down / bookmark any of it? No. But simple "intolerance" has definitely turned into a hateful, almost subhuman view of trans people at times from a few of the louder voices, and there's no denying that.

Lol... fortunately, I don't entertain non-believers when they try to use Christianity or Christian tenants or Christ's teachings to try and throw things in our face. Every Christian is first and foremost, a sinner. To then point at Christians and say, "See! You Sin too!" is basically redundant.

"Tolerate" means we aren't grabbing weapons and killing or destroying people who practice evil things. It doesn't mean we should participate in sin or delusions, or condone either. It also doesn't mean we should be silent, In fact, we are specifically commanded to do otherwise: Ephesians 5:11: "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."

It is literally a fundamental tenant of Christianity to tell others they are sinful and deserving of eternal damnation. It's literally the reason for Christ's sacrifice and the core of Christianity.

Calling out sin =/= Judgment, in the biblical sense of the word

Celebration of sin =/= tolerance

Also, claiming that Nolan's Odyssey is Christian-coded is a huge stretch, at best. You can find analogies and meaning in just about anything, if you're looking for it. I don't look to Ben Shapiro or random TexAgs posters to tell me about Christian beliefs, doctrine, or faith.

BTW, I didn't start the Christianity discussion, so your standard eye-rolling when it's brought up would be hilarious to see.

Odysseus tells Sinon's father that he'll look after him. For me at least, it stands to reason that means he made sure to do that during the 10 year siege. Why sacrifice him? Maybe he figured the alternative was dying as a useless person during the upcoming battle. Might as well be of some use. If he gave the task to a good soldier, that's one less soldier for the battle.

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Dude, where it the "hate" directed at Elliot Page on here? Or trans people? By and large, it's just people mocking the absurdity of the casting decision. SHE'S A 5'1" FEMALE. She does not look nor sound like a man. IMO, this was obviously either (a) a DEI hire, or (b) a loyalty hire...or killed both birds with one stone.

I think a lot of people feel sorry for those with true gender dysphoria....which is vastly different from people like the "It's MA'AM" dude...who seem to get off acting out their fetishes of cross dressing like women and making as much of a scene as possible. But I would hate to have a condition where my brain is convinced I am a member of the opposite sex...or where I just couldn't at all be happy in my body or own skin.

If you're asking us to never engage in poking a little fun at people ever, you're asking men to stop being men on the golf course, on hunting trips etc.

When I encounter trans people in the real world (almost never - but happened to me twice at a department store recently within the span of a month or so), I treat them with nothing but love and respect. I want to make their day happier. But that doesn't mean I leave the place believing that person is a woman, or thinking they would be great in the next Rocky Balboa movie.

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100%

The vast majority of those critical of this casting, who are also Christians, have not been hateful. We are simply calling it out because we refuse to participate in the delusion.

I have met many trans people in my life. I have always treated them with the same respect I treat any person. This is a message board, so things get quipy and a bit hyperbolic, but this idea that Christians rejecting this trans agenda where we have to participate is us being hateful, is outright ridiculous.

These are mentally sick people who need help, not affirmation of their delusion. That's true "love".

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Lol... fortunately, I don't entertain non-believers when they try to use Christianity or Christian tenants or Christ's teachings to try and throw things in our face. Every Christian is first and foremost, a sinner. To then point at Christians and say, "See! You Sin too!" is basically redundant.

"Tolerate" means we aren't grabbing weapons and killing or destroying people who practice evil things. It doesn't mean we should participate in sin or delusions, or condone either. It also doesn't mean we should be silent, In fact, we are specifically commanded to do otherwise: Ephesians 5:11: "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."

It is literally a fundamental tenant of Christianity to tell others they are sinful and deserving of eternal damnation. It's literally the reason for Christ's sacrifice and the core of Christianity.

Calling out sin =/= Judgment, in the biblical sense of the word

Celebration of sin =/= tolerance

Also, claiming that Nolan's Odyssey is Christian-coded is a huge stretch, at best. You can find analogies and meaning in just about anything, if you're looking for it. I don't look to Ben Shapiro or random TexAgs posters to tell me about Christian beliefs, doctrine, or faith.

BTW, I didn't start the Christianity discussion, so your standard eye-rolling when it's brought up would be hilarious to see.

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Are you talking to me, re: the bold?

Because if you had actually read my post, you'd know that none of these claims you're directly and indirectly ascribing to me are actual claims that I made.

You're just ranting and raving, per usual, as any nuance goes right over your head.

When you logon at 4PM on a Tuesday, and there are *103 replies* since you last read this morning.

Again- *what the hell happened this time*, I know that many people didn't go see the movie before 4PM today.

And yet again (not the first time on this thread)- absolutely nothing happened.

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When you logon at 4PM on a Tuesday, and there are *103 replies* since you last read this morning.

Again- *what the hell happened this time*, I know that many people didn't go see the movie before 4PM today.

And yet again (not the first time on this thread)- absolutely nothing happened.

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Yeah, I have a rule that if a thread has 11ty billion posts in a few hours, I just ignore.

Regarding the actress that played Helen, she looked pretty damn good to me.

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Regarding the actress that played Helen, she looked pretty damn good to me.

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When you logon at 4PM on a Tuesday, and there are *103 replies* since you last read this morning.

Again- *what the hell happened this time*, I know that many people didn't go see the movie before 4PM today.

And yet again (not the first time on this thread)- absolutely nothing happened.

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TC probably posted 98 times. I'm pretty sure playing defense on the entertainment forum is his job.

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Regarding the actress that played Helen, she looked pretty damn good to me.

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Dude...


Standards. Find some. Seriously.

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Rigs said:

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When you logon at 4PM on a Tuesday, and there are *103 replies* since you last read this morning.

Again- *what the hell happened this time*, I know that many people didn't go see the movie before 4PM today.

And yet again (not the first time on this thread)- absolutely nothing happened.

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TC probably posted 98 times. I'm pretty sure playing defense on the entertainment forum is his job.

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Someone has to keep this thread and other threads alive.

All I know is, this movie is printing money.

Indeed...

'The Odyssey' Posts Powerful $20M Tuesday; 2nd U.S. Weekend Could Top Christopher Nolan's 'Dark Knight' Pics - Box Office https://t.co/PYfbP6URtF

— Deadline (@DEADLINE) July 21, 2026

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Lol... fortunately, I don't entertain non-believers when they try to use Christianity or Christian tenants or Christ's teachings to try and throw things in our face. Every Christian is first and foremost, a sinner. To then point at Christians and say, "See! You Sin too!" is basically redundant.

"Tolerate" means we aren't grabbing weapons and killing or destroying people who practice evil things. It doesn't mean we should participate in sin or delusions, or condone either. It also doesn't mean we should be silent, In fact, we are specifically commanded to do otherwise: Ephesians 5:11: "Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."

It is literally a fundamental tenant of Christianity to tell others they are sinful and deserving of eternal damnation. It's literally the reason for Christ's sacrifice and the core of Christianity.

Calling out sin =/= Judgment, in the biblical sense of the word

Celebration of sin =/= tolerance

Also, claiming that Nolan's Odyssey is Christian-coded is a huge stretch, at best. You can find analogies and meaning in just about anything, if you're looking for it. I don't look to Ben Shapiro or random TexAgs posters to tell me about Christian beliefs, doctrine, or faith.

BTW, I didn't start the Christianity discussion, so your standard eye-rolling when it's brought up would be hilarious to see.

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Are you talking to me, re: the bold?

Because if you had actually read my post, you'd know that none of these claims you're directly and indirectly ascribing to me are actual claims that I made.

You're just ranting and raving, per usual, as any nuance goes right over your head.

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Wow...

You go on a multiple post rant, I respond, and now I'm going on a rant. You are such a ridiculous person. Also, I thought you were ignoring me. Why did you start responding to me? That is literal obsession. You have issues, man. Serious issues.

I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

And I have never seen so many triggered snowflakes attack a movie they haven't seen, for months on end, convinced as to how bad it's going to be and how little it's going to make, only to have the exact opposite come true in every way, in spectacular fashion.

Also, if you actually paid attention to the words I wrote, it was never about this movie in particular. I agreed that the trailers were underwhelming, that the end-result wasn't top-five Nolan, and no, I'm not getting paid. I simply find satisfaction in pushing back against what a number of culture-war-obsessed pearl-clutchers here currently suffer from to an alarming degree: woke derangement syndrome.

The Ex Officio Director said:

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I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

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I have never seen people lose their god damned minds over a movie. They must be paid by Russia

The Ex Officio Director said:

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I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

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He does this on literally every movie/show that he likes, or that he feels he needs to defend, because he "works in the industry," whatever that means. Everyone else is wrong for not agreeing and he will dig his heels in and outlast you. I gotta say, his dedication and stamina is downright impressive. Also, most people have jobs or better things to do, so it's really hard to keep up, so he always thinks he "wins," which just encourages him to do it again.

And again.

And again.

And again...


People with lives have no chance against fanaticism like that. It's downright impressive and almost religious fervor, which you have to respect. I know that personally I'm not good enough at this game to keep up.

Saxsoon said:

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The Ex Officio Director said:

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I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

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I have never seen people lose their god damned minds over a movie. They must be paid by Russia

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Maybe I am. Use to work an extra job at the Russian Consulate. So technically I was paid by the Russians.

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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The Ex Officio Director said:

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I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

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He does this on literally every movie/show that he likes, or that he feels he needs to defend, because he "works in the industry," whatever that means. Everyone else is wrong for not agreeing and he will dig his heels in and outlast you. I gotta say, his dedication and stamina is downright impressive. Also, most people have jobs or better things to do, so it's really hard to keep up, so he always thinks he "wins," which just encourages him to do it again.

And again.

And again.

And again...


People with lives have no chance against fanaticism like that. It's downright impressive and almost religious fervor, which you have to respect. I know that personally I'm not good enough at this game to keep up.

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I own a production company with three partners.

We specialize in development.

We don't need an office, so I work from home, reading, writing, giving notes, creating pitch decks, and taking zooms/calls.

Thus, seeing as I'm sitting in front of a computer for a sizable chunk of the day, I treat F13 as my water cooler / break room / next door cubicle.

In my spare time I'm also slowly building/relaunching an old entertainment database passion of mine. Part of which requires keeping track of industry news/trailers basically all day every day.

To that end, TexAgs keeps me accountable. Being someone here who provides updates/trailers helps me keep my own efforts updated as well, helps me to always know exactly what's going on in the industry, etc.

Also?

I simply find fervent anti-wokesters to be just as much of a cancer as extreme left wokesters. So, when I'm here, and constantly have to navigate over-the-top anti-woke bull**** in thread after thread after thread, I push back. Again, I find it satisfying, and hearing you say "I'm not good enough at this game to keep up" is music to my ears.

Finally, despite your dig, I do indeed have a life. A pretty great one, I think. I'm pursuing my passions, out here having new experiences and meeting new people all the time. I stopped sharing most of my celebrity encounters here long ago, but a number of people we talk about on this board are also people I meet with, zoom with, work with, and have beers with in real life. Beyond that, I couldn't have asked for better friends out here or family back in Texas.

In other words, nothing you guys say affects me in the least, personally. It's when your nonsense gets in the way of the rest of us wanting this place to be somewhere we can look forward to movies, talk about movies, and celebrate movies, without the usual suspects incessantly *****ing and moaning and virtue signaling about "woke" in every nook and cranny of this board.

TCTTS said:

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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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The Ex Officio Director said:

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I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

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He does this on literally every movie/show that he likes, or that he feels he needs to defend, because he "works in the industry," whatever that means. Everyone else is wrong for not agreeing and he will dig his heels in and outlast you. I gotta say, his dedication and stamina is downright impressive. Also, most people have jobs or better things to do, so it's really hard to keep up, so he always thinks he "wins," which just encourages him to do it again.

And again.

And again.

And again...


People with lives have no chance against fanaticism like that. It's downright impressive and almost religious fervor, which you have to respect. I know that personally I'm not good enough at this game to keep up.

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I own a production company with three partners.

We specialize in development.

We don't need an office, so I work from home, reading, writing, giving notes, creating pitch decks, and taking zooms/calls.

Thus, seeing as I'm sitting in front of a computer for a sizable chunk of the day, I treat F13 as my water cooler / break room / next door cubicle.

In my spare time I'm also slowly building/relaunching an old entertainment database passion of mine. Part of which requires keeping track of industry news/trailers basically all day every day.

To that end, TexAgs keeps me accountable. Being someone who provides updates/trailers here helps me keep my own efforts updated as well, helps me to always know exactly what's going on in the industry, etc.

Also?

I simply find the fervent anti-wokesters to be just as much of a cancer as the extreme left wokesters. So, when I'm here, and constantly have to navigate over-the-top anti-woke bull**** in thread after thread after thread, I push back. Again, I find it satisfying, and hearing you say "I'm not good enough at this game to keep up" is music to my ears.

Finally, despite your dig, I do indeed have a life. A pretty great one, I think. I'm pursuing my passions, out here having new experiences and meeting new people all the time. I stopped sharing most of my celebrity encounters here long ago, but a number of people we talk about on this board are also people I meet with, zoom with, work with, and have beers with in real life. Beyond that, I couldn't have asked for better friends out here or family back in Texas.

In other words, nothing you guys say affects me in the least, personally. It's when your nonsense gets in the way of the rest of us wanting this place to be somewhere we can look forward to movies, talk about movies, and celebrate movies, without the usual suspects incessantly *****ing and moaning and virtue signaling about "woke" in every nook and cranny of this board.

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Strange coincidence. I have the exact same gig. But my dedication is lacking, so Texags canned my lazy bored ass...

TCTTS said:

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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

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The Ex Officio Director said:

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I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

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He does this on literally every movie/show that he likes, or that he feels he needs to defend, because he "works in the industry," whatever that means. Everyone else is wrong for not agreeing and he will dig his heels in and outlast you. I gotta say, his dedication and stamina is downright impressive. Also, most people have jobs or better things to do, so it's really hard to keep up, so he always thinks he "wins," which just encourages him to do it again.

And again.

And again.

And again...


People with lives have no chance against fanaticism like that. It's downright impressive and almost religious fervor, which you have to respect. I know that personally I'm not good enough at this game to keep up.

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I own a production company with three partners.

We specialize in development.

We don't need an office, so I work from home, reading, writing, giving notes, creating pitch decks, and taking zooms/calls.

Thus, seeing as I'm sitting in front of a computer for a sizable chunk of the day, I treat F13 as my water cooler / break room / next door cubicle.

In my spare time I'm also slowly building/relaunching an old entertainment database passion of mine. Part of which requires keeping track of industry news/trailers basically all day every day.

To that end, TexAgs keeps me accountable. Being someone here who provides updates/trailers helps me keep my own efforts updated as well, helps me to always know exactly what's going on in the industry, etc.

Also?

I simply find fervent anti-wokesters to be just as much of a cancer as extreme left wokesters. So, when I'm here, and constantly have to navigate over-the-top anti-woke bull**** in thread after thread after thread, I push back. Again, I find it satisfying, and hearing you say "I'm not good enough at this game to keep up" is music to my ears.

Finally, despite your dig, I do indeed have a life. A pretty great one, I think. I'm pursuing my passions, out here having new experiences and meeting new people all the time. I stopped sharing most of my celebrity encounters here long ago, but a number of people we talk about on this board are also people I meet with, zoom with, work with, and have beers with in real life. Beyond that, I couldn't have asked for better friends out here or family back in Texas.

In other words, nothing you guys say affects me in the least, personally. It's when your nonsense gets in the way of the rest of us wanting this place to be somewhere we can look forward to movies, talk about movies, and celebrate movies, without the usual suspects incessantly *****ing and moaning and virtue signaling about "woke" in every nook and cranny of this board.

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As a moderately silent observer on the Entertainment board, I want to thank you TCTTS for your years of Film and TV insights on this board. Continue to post your genuine opinions on movies and shows with the sprinkle of "Behind the scenes" Hollywood when you can. Im sure there are a lot of us that appreciate your posts here. Don't let these haters get to you.

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I have never see someone cheerlead for a movie this hard.

Curious if tctts is getting paid to promote Odyssey.

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He does this on literally every movie/show that he likes, or that he feels he needs to defend, because he "works in the industry," whatever that means. Everyone else is wrong for not agreeing and he will dig his heels in and outlast you. I gotta say, his dedication and stamina is downright impressive. Also, most people have jobs or better things to do, so it's really hard to keep up, so he always thinks he "wins," which just encourages him to do it again.

And again.

And again.

And again...


People with lives have no chance against fanaticism like that. It's downright impressive and almost religious fervor, which you have to respect. I know that personally I'm not good enough at this game to keep up.

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I own a production company with three partners.

We specialize in development.

We don't need an office, so I work from home, reading, writing, giving notes, creating pitch decks, and taking zooms/calls.

Thus, seeing as I'm sitting in front of a computer for a sizable chunk of the day, I treat F13 as my water cooler / break room / next door cubicle.

In my spare time I'm also slowly building/relaunching an old entertainment database passion of mine. Part of which requires keeping track of industry news/trailers basically all day every day.

To that end, TexAgs keeps me accountable. Being someone here who provides updates/trailers helps me keep my own efforts updated as well, helps me to always know exactly what's going on in the industry, etc.

Also?

I simply find fervent anti-wokesters to be just as much of a cancer as extreme left wokesters. So, when I'm here, and constantly have to navigate over-the-top anti-woke bull**** in thread after thread after thread, I push back. Again, I find it satisfying, and hearing you say "I'm not good enough at this game to keep up" is music to my ears.

Finally, despite your dig, I do indeed have a life. A pretty great one, I think. I'm pursuing my passions, out here having new experiences and meeting new people all the time. I stopped sharing most of my celebrity encounters here long ago, but a number of people we talk about on this board are also people I meet with, zoom with, work with, and have beers with in real life. Beyond that, I couldn't have asked for better friends out here or family back in Texas.

In other words, nothing you guys say affects me in the least, personally. It's when your nonsense gets in the way of the rest of us wanting this place to be somewhere we can look forward to movies, talk about movies, and celebrate movies, without the usual suspects incessantly *****ing and moaning and virtue signaling about "woke" in every nook and cranny of this board.

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As a moderately silent observer on the Entertainment board, I want to thank you TCTTS for your years of Film and TV insights on this board. Continue to post your genuine opinions on movies and shows with the sprinkle of "Behind the scenes" Hollywood when you can. Im sure there are a lot of us that appreciate your posts here. Don't let these haters get to you.

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I wish I had access to the laughing icon. The only "opinions" TC give is what he tells people what they are supposed to think about films/shows, and if you disagree then he will wear you down until you give up and leave. At that point he can claim victory, thus proving that his opinion is correct. Rinse and repeat.

My girlfriend wishes I had his endurance...


That said, I hope you never change TC. We need that balance, and I respect true believers for their blind unwavering faith. You might not be the hero we deserve, but you are the hero we desperately need. Plus you are just so damned entertaining.

Just got home from the movie - i hadn't really kept up with the controversy around it other than I generally knew conservatives were up in arms because Helen was black and Elliott Page was in it. (rumored as Achilles at one point?). I thought it was fantastic. I had reservations going into the movie, but ended up actually really liking Page's character and given the context of the character (young, weak fighter) it made perfect sense and thought that Page did very well with it.

I immediately thought of Christianity with the message of the story and the irony of a bunch of Christians hating this movie for superficial things when the story is probably the most religious-friendly one I've seen in a theater in a long time.

Couple random thoughts.

- Lupita Nyong'o is gorgeous. I get that beauty is subjective, but man - she's a stunner, even when they try and make her ugly for the plot of the story. (And i think it's funny when people try and bring up the most light-skinned black females like Beyonce or Halle Berry to try and show they're not racist). I believe you that you're not racist, but this isn't exactly proving the point you're trying to make.

- I walked out of the theater thinking it was one of the most ambitious movies I've ever seen, and I think they pulled it off. Can't wait to see the behind the scenes on how they made it.

- We couldn't zoom in on the sirens? Not even a little bit? Bummer

- This could have been a 10 season TV series. I'm shocked that they were able to get it into 3 hours. I thought the way they wrote it really helped here - it was Odysseus' broken memories leading the story-telling.

- When Eumaeus casually tossed a puppy over the cliff like Luke Skywalker tossing his lightsaber, I legitimately wanted to fight a fictional movie character.