Warhammer 40k series finally in development

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Guess they finally worked through their issues with Henry Cavill. Cavill is a superfan of Warhammer 40k, he plays the tabletop game as Custodes, paints his own figures, and is hugely involved in that community. He's a perfect choice for Producer and Star because he will never deviate from the Lore and will hold everyone accountable.

For those who don't know what Warhammer 40k is, here is a primer:



It's the most nightmarish universe in all of sci-fi. It's the polar opposite of Star Wars in every conceivable way. Every single species is dead set on genociding every other one while trying to fight off literal Hell (Chaos), an extragalactic biological swarm (Tyrannids), and so much more.

The human population numbers well into the quintillions and battles can easily see billions die.

"In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war."
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Mike Flanagan is writing the series.


BenFiasco14
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How can someone get into Warhammer who is just overwhelmed by the amount of content out there?

I'm a gamer and a reader but not a table top RPG player. Any recommendations?

Heck, I even have a few Warhammer games downloaded I haven't had a chance to play yet, like Rogue Trader.
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BenFiasco14 said:

How can someone get into Warhammer who is just overwhelmed by the amount of content out there?

I'm a gamer and a reader but not a table top RPG player. Any recommendations?

Heck, I even have a few Warhammer games downloaded I haven't had a chance to play yet, like Rogue Trader.

Dan Abnett's Eisenhorn series is a great entry point following the exploits of an Imperial Inquisitor. Alternatively, you could check out his Gaunt's Ghosts series about an Imperial Guard regiment and its Colonel Commissar leader, or Sandy Mitchell's Ciaphas Cain series, which is a little more light-hearted (think Flashman in space) but still in the grim darkness of the far future.

For games, the Space Marine series (particularly the second one) is a good choice. The Rogue Trader RPG is also great - exposes you to a lot of lore.
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BenFiasco14 said:

How can someone get into Warhammer who is just overwhelmed by the amount of content out there?

I'm a gamer and a reader but not a table top RPG player. Any recommendations?

Heck, I even have a few Warhammer games downloaded I haven't had a chance to play yet, like Rogue Trader.

Depends on how deep you wanna go and if you care about knowing the "lore" or just knowing a bunch of random factoids that come with just consuming some of the current content.

It really comes down to that above question. If you want to start at the beginning, then you start exactly there in the books, which is the Horus Heresy. It lays down the foundation of the settings most important factions and how they get to where they are. It's a massive series spanning like 60+ books (you don't need all of them) and is the precursor for 40K, literally. 40K refers to the year, 40,000AD. The Horus Heresy takes place in 30K and is directly responsible for setting up a massive chunk of how 40K looks in regards to two of it's most important factions. The Imperium of Man and the Forces of Chaos.

If you want to just jump in to what you find interesting, you of course can do that too. Just poke around till something looks cool and start googling around it. The only issue about this is that you will eventually hit things you lack context for and then have to explore that stuff and so begins the spider web of addiction!

You are definitely right in saying there is a metric **** ton of stuff out there now on this topic and it is a mess for newcomers. I have been engrossed in this world for over two decades and still get lost in the stuff getting put out.

Claudes suggestions are great and starts you off somewhere "grounded" to see if you really want to get stuck into this setting or not.
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Why is a name like Mike Flanagan something to be very excited about? Pulled up his wikipedia and can honestly say Doctor Sleep is the only thing he's written that I can say I either know or like.
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Lathspell said:

Why is a name like Mike Flanagan something to be very excited about? Pulled up his wikipedia and can honestly say Doctor Sleep is the only thing he's written that I can say I either know or like.


He's done a series of great horror mini series on Netflix - the haunting of hill house and midnight mass in particular are fantastic.
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Yes!! In!! I do think Mike Flanagan writing this is a surprising choice but there is also a horror element to this series with forces of chaos.

With books, I started with Eisenhorn which was really good. I'll tackle Horus Heresy next simply because of chronology order.

Rogue Trader is a great isometric CRPG but that's also my favorite genre of game. I've played Space Marine 2 but actually got kind of bored with it and gave up on it.

If you want a taste of totally kickass WH40k material, watch the short on Amazons Secret Level. It's incredible. I would hope those guys might be involved with this.

And that short ties back to the Space Marine 2 game. Takes place after game.
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Don't get me wrong the warhammer universe is aesthetically amazing. Love the games, love the look, but is there actually a storyline where there is a relatively good side for normal people to get invested on? I've never really felt like diving into the lore of warhammer because it is massive and it seems like everything is just different shades of evil and dark.

Have actually been on the private server of the old age of reckoning mmo playing that a lot.
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Madmarttigan said:

Don't get me wrong the warhammer universe is aesthetically amazing. Love the games, love the look, but is there actually a storyline where there is a relatively good side for normal people to get invested on? I've never really felt like diving into the lore of warhammer because it is massive and it seems like everything is just different shades of evil and dark.

Have actually been on the private server of the old age of reckoning mmo playing that a lot.


It's shades of gray that's for sure. [Puts on nerd hat]

Using the D&D alignment matrix, I would say the the best you are going to get is a Lawful Neutral character. Now, I do not have the breadth of reading that Elimnatus does so he can probably opine with more knowledge here, but that's pretty much what I've found so far.
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Madmarttigan said:

Don't get me wrong the warhammer universe is aesthetically amazing. Love the games, love the look, but is there actually a storyline where there is a relatively good side for normal people to get invested on? I've never really felt like diving into the lore of warhammer because it is massive and it seems like everything is just different shades of evil and dark.

Have actually been on the private server of the old age of reckoning mmo playing that a lot.

As a whole? Honestly, no. Not really. It's kind of a thing actually for WH. It is supposed to be all shades of ****tiness. It's even a meme at times. (Some nuance there perhaps but that is in depth discussion that gets into the weeds of which I don't think you are there yet)

That being said, there are definitely lots of sub factions, plot lines whose schtick is NOT just being evil. Just mostly trying to survive in a universe filled with said evil. Claudes suggestion of Gaunt's Ghosts is a prime example of this. It's a storyline of just plain human soldiers in a unit that are tasked with fighting the horrors of their realities. It's actually really grounded and a classic tale of the little guys against the world. They are not evil, or even partly evil. Just regular soldiers fighting and trying to survive. A fantastic series that is an easy recommend to start dipping your toes in. That or Ciaphias Cain if you want a more tongue in cheek approach to the overall grim horror that is WH in general. Cain's whole thing is that he is a Commissar with a reputation of being an absolute badass and Hero of the Imperium for pulling off amazing deeds in battle. The thing is, is that he is actually a super coward at heart but puts himself in these situations because he feels like he has to because of that reputation and then things just tend to work out for him in the end. It's a pretty light hearted take on the whole WH thing and the writing is really well done. One of the best characters in the whole universe is in it too. Jurgen, my beloved! Also, an easy recommend to start off with that is not all evil and super edgy.


ETA: Will also add that not all the evil stuff is you typical evil to be evil stuff. In fact, with the right writers, some of the actual bad people in the setting end up having the most memorable stories and you can even end up sympathizing with them in the end. One of Black Libraries big authors (Games Workshop publishing arm), Aaron Dembski-Bowden is an absolute wizard at writing evil characters and stories into amazing works that has people falling in love with the "evil" factions all the time. One of his works is the Night Lords trilogy, which is universally praised and considered one of the high marks of the entire book selection that the BL has. The Night Lords are actual super evil dudes who do evil things to innocent people but in their shoes and through their eyes, you can't help but feel for their own plight and predicaments. Even the evil people in Warhammer 40K are often stuck in evil situations they don't want to be in.

Another of his works is probably my favorite of the whole Horus Heresy, The First Heretic. Again, he just has a way of really showing the thoughts and trials and tribulations and shows that sometimes, evil in itself is just a story to be told as to how it got there and why. It was a NYT Bestseller in it's own right.
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YouBet said:

Yes!! In!! I do think Mike Flanagan writing this is a surprising choice but there is also a horror element to this series with forces of chaos.

With books, I started with Eisenhorn which was really good. I'll tackle Horus Heresy next simply because of chronology order.

Rogue Trader is a great isometric CRPG but that's also my favorite genre of game. I've played Space Marine 2 but actually got kind of bored with it and gave up on it.

If you want a taste of totally kickass WH40k material, watch the short on Amazons Secret Level. It's incredible. I would hope those guys might be involved with this.

And that short ties back to the Space Marine 2 game. Takes place after game.

I decided I was going to wait for the last DLC to drop before I play through again. Which sucks because I have the Infinite Museion but haven't touched it yet and I really want to.
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