Why did the people in charge of mainstream music move away from rock?

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Funky Winkerbean
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In reply to Madmarttigan • 8:18a, 9/27/24
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Madmarttigan said:
I honest to god have no idea how to find new rock music or bands that have started in the past decade. Spotify/pandora do a horrible job at recommending new music.

I just assumed rock bands stopped being created 15 years ago.


Go through your "Discover Weekly " and add songs you like to a playlist. The algorithm will start to feed you similar stuff every week.
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8:31a, 9/27/24
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I recently discovered Dirty Honey and they have a sleazy 80s rock band vibe.
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8:32a, 9/27/24
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1. Kids today have more ways to entertain themselves, so fewer kids are learning how to play an instrument. Students are still joining band in school, but it's not the same as buying a guitar and learning chords in your garage with your friends. Kids that may have learned to play the guitar 30 years ago are now spending their time playing Fortnite or scrolling through Tik Tok.

2. Why learn to play the guitar when a computer can reproduce those sounds for you?

3. Streaming has been a big cause for the decline in rock. Kids today decide they like or dislike a song within 15 seconds. There needs to be an immediate hook, or they skip to the next one. Many kids just aren't willing to give rock music a chance.

4. I do think things are cyclical though. The music scene has been dominated by 80s synth beats for a while, but 90s music is starting to become a thing again. I'm seeing a lot of kids today listening to Nirvana and Alice in Chains. My school received a grant to start a rock music class and it's insanely popular. There isn't enough slots for all the kids that want to join. Some parents have even donated their own instruments so there can be a second class next semester. It wouldn't shock me at all if rock music hit the charts again in another 5-10 years.
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In reply to Bruce Almighty • 11:39a, 9/27/24
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Great point with #3 there. Rick Beato discussed this at length recently. Average song length of top chart songs grew between the 50s/60s and early 90s. It started declining after one of those early 90s years, can't recall which one was the peak. I mean, Rooster by AIC is over 6 minutes long!

Since the rise of pop boy bands and everything else we all know after that since 2000, song length has greatly declined and gotten more simple. Stuff nowadays is made to sound good in 30-seconds chunks for loops on TikTok and the like.
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In reply to Hubert J. Farnsworth • 12:12p, 9/27/24
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Madmarttigan said:
I honest to god have no idea how to find new rock music or bands that have started in the past decade. Spotify/pandora do a horrible job at recommending new music.

I just assumed rock bands stopped being created 15 years ago.


Looks like you are underutilizing your spotify. Pandora is bad at recommending new music, but spotify is great at it if you use it correctly. I find bands and songs I've never heard of all of the time on spotify.
For a non-paying subscriber? Please tell me how.

I like the selection and organization of Spotify, but it's done very little to bring me new songs/bands like Pandora.
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In reply to Ezra Brooks • 1:02p, 9/27/24
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Madmarttigan said:
I honest to god have no idea how to find new rock music or bands that have started in the past decade. Spotify/pandora do a horrible job at recommending new music.

I just assumed rock bands stopped being created 15 years ago.


Looks like you are underutilizing your spotify. Pandora is bad at recommending new music, but spotify is great at it if you use it correctly. I find bands and songs I've never heard of all of the time on spotify.
For a non-paying subscriber? Please tell me how.

I like the selection and organization of Spotify, but it's done very little to bring me new songs/bands like Pandora.


Oh, I'm not really sure on a non-paying subscription. On a paid subscription they give you a "Discover Weekly" playlist every week that is songs that you do not have in your library already. Thats how I find a lot of bands I don't know about and then I go to the artists page and listen to their stuff. Another thing I figured out is that choosing a specific song with the search function and then just letting it play on after the song is over tends to play a lot more variety of bands than choosing a bands radio. When you do it like that, Spotify puts together a playlist based on the song you chose. I've found a ton of new music like that as well.
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In reply to Madmarttigan • 1:10p, 9/27/24
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There are plenty of rock bands to discover, they just aren't mainstream and aren't Tool copies.

I've discovered several new indie rock groups in the last 5 years that I've enjoyed.
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10:39p, 9/29/24
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Ghost has like 5 #1 rock songs in the past 10 years, and they broke through on TikTok as well.

Then volbeat, with a ton of radio songs since 2010.

There is quite a bit of stuff in the last 15 years I really like, and I was always one to think I'd only ever like my early 90s rock.
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In reply to Hubert J. Farnsworth • 11:08p, 9/29/24
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Langley said:
Nothing to add here except for the corpus folks.

"C….ONE OH ONE…ROCKS"

I miss the old mainstream rock stations.

They all got bought out under clear channel or whatever


Clear channel can burn in hell. They have destroyed radio across America.


Pretty sure they Aggie owned
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9:10a, 10/1/24
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Great topic and people already covered the why question enough.

There are a lot of great rock bands out. I found them initially while listening to the "Growin up Rock" podcast where they have a new song of the week every week.

If you need some seed bands to start your modern rock with a classic feel channel try the following.













Volbeat already mentioned. I've also rediscovered Godsmack and they have some great stuff as well.
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9:44a, 10/1/24
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I listen to Sirius XM Octane occasionally and none of the new rock music appeals to me. Maybe a song here and there, but overall I don't think it's anything special

I'm just old
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10:03a, 10/1/24
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I think you wouldnt find any good and new bands on Sirius.
The above spotify suggestions, and youtube are what I tend to do.
Along with what I wrote about checking out your local clubs concert listings occassionally.
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In reply to digging tunnels • 10:09a, 10/1/24
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digging tunnels said:
I listen to Sirius XM Octane occasionally and none of the new rock music appeals to me. Maybe a song here and there, but overall I don't think it's anything special

I'm just old
I'm 52 so not young. I do make an effort to push myself to keep learning and trying new things though as it helps stave off dementia and depression. Stuff like SCUBA, track racing, sky diving, martial arts, etc.
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In reply to digging tunnels • 10:42a, 10/1/24
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digging tunnels said:
I listen to Sirius XM Octane occasionally and none of the new rock music appeals to me. Maybe a song here and there, but overall I don't think it's anything special

I'm just old
I'm with you. Octane to me is like a hard rock version of radio. It's the same stuff over and over, and it's not the good stuff, it's the generic watered down mass appealed crap.


Looking at this list
https://xmplaylist.com/station/octane/most-heard


I like none of these songs that are played often.

"Money Where Your Mouth Is by Lakeview Gideon, oh my god put a nail in my ears. It's like BRO HARD ROCK and it needs to go away.


and oh my god I just put that song on youtube to make sure it was the one I was thinking of; it says they are playing denver, at a place on a date I'm going to.. uh??? what?

They are opening for staind and breaking benjamin apparently lol. That is an opener I will not be there for.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 11:16a, 10/1/24
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ABATTBQ11 said:
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Langley said:
Nothing to add here except for the corpus folks.

"C….ONE OH ONE…ROCKS"

I miss the old mainstream rock stations.

They all got bought out under clear channel or whatever


Clear channel can burn in hell. They have destroyed radio across America.


Pretty sure they Aggie owned
Aggie founded (Lowry Mays), but not (currently) Aggie owned.
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