*** ALIEN: ROMULUS ***

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Alien 3 is not as awful as Alien Resurrection or the second AvP movie. But I think you suggested the uphill battle that movie faced, following the scariest and greatest monster movie ever made, and arguably a top 2-3 all time sequel that is an action classic.

Something the early Alien movies faced was studio interference. Cost concerns, studio dictates about how the film should go (at least one of these was a good dictate to overrule how Scott wanted to end the original movie). But in Alien and Aliens, you had directors who had film resumes to back up what they were doing on their respective films. Alien 3 was David Fincher's first movie. He was frequently harassed by the studio and the penny-pincher types, and didn't have the weight behind his name to make the movie he wanted to make. Given the number of impactful, great movies he has made in the years since, I guarantee he would make a far better Alien movie now than in 1992.

What I liked most about the movie was the look of the film and the ballsy decision to kill its main character. Most of the characters were bland - the bald heads did not help with that. 85 was a good character, as was Dillon and the doctor.

What I hated, and I do mean hated, was taking two of the survivors from Aliens, characters that were loved, and they were effing dead before the movie even started. Although the funeral sequence for these characters did come with some strong emotion. But man did I hate that they died off screen.

The other thing I hated was the initial advertising. There was an advance trailer attached to Terminator 2 - almost a year before Alien 3 came out - that strongly suggested a far different movie than we got. An egg floating in orbit of earth, something to that effect. That was the movie I wanted, not a bunch of religious former inmates on a lice-infested planet with a single alien hunting them.
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rhutton125 said:

Prometheus's two biggest sins, IMO, were 1) hiring Guy Pearce for a prequel promo video and then slathering him with unconvincing old man makeup for the actual film, and 2) the scene where they finally come face to face with the big white Promethean, and he just… goes berserk and starts killing people.

What a letdown.

I'm actually going to half-defend both of those sins...

1) Age-accurate Guy Pierce wasn't hired solely for the prequel promo video. He was also used in a flashback scene that was cut from the movie itself. So between those two appearances, I kind of sort of understand why they cast him... but not really. No doubt, it would have been sooooo much better if they cast an actual, older, legendary actor in the old man Weyland role (Max von Sydow, Christopher Plummer, etc) and then cast whoever as the brief, younger version of him. It could have even been a no-name, as long as they somewhat resembled the older version.

2) This is all backstory that was cut as well, but the big, white Engineers were actually on their way to wipe out humanity just before the Engineers were attacked. If I remember correctly, in the world of the movie, Jesus was actually an Engineer, and when the humans killed him that was basically the last straw for the Engineers. They had enough. We saw them create humanity in the opening, then they were on their way to end humanity before being attacked. So when the Engineer who was on his way to Earth was finally woken up, 2000+ years later, he was already super pissed at humanity, and simply took out his anger on the humans who were now standing before him.

Overall, the core concept of the movie itself, the overarching story, etc is incredible. I love all the ideas they were playing with. It's just that, for me, there are so many little things like the above, along with the monumentally dumb scientists, that just straight up ruin everything else.
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Jesus was actually an Engineer
I don't remember if that was explicitly stated in the cut footage, but even in the movie that we got, it was certainly implied.
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That all makes sense. Well-intentioned I guess, but the execution ended up being quite underwhelming.

IIRC that c-section scene was pretty rad though.
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Man I wish they'd re-release Aliens on the big screen, my favorite movie of all time. Didn't they do that with Alien in the not too distant past? Will be going to see this first thing when I get back from offshore.
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texsn95 said:

Man I wish they'd re-release Aliens on the big screen, my favorite movie of all time. Didn't they do that with Alien in the not too distant past? Will be going to see this first thing when I get back from offshore.
Alien has been re-released once to my knowledge, when they did the Director's cut back in 2003 or 2004. But if you have an Alamo Drafthouse near you, keep an eye on their showings. Earlier this year, I did back-to-back same night The Mummy (1999) followed by Alien. Lots of fun that night. They also do 40-year anniversary showings; this year is 1984, so in a couple of years, I would expect Alamo to show Aliens. And I'll be going.
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Been playing Isolation every night. I feel very immersed in this universe right now.

Going tonight. Excited.
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As a scientist, y'all shoudn't hold scientists to an all that higher bar than everyone else. They do stupid **** all the damn time they just happen to have expertise in a specific field.
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TCTTS said:

rhutton125 said:

Prometheus's two biggest sins, IMO, were 1) hiring Guy Pearce for a prequel promo video and then slathering him with unconvincing old man makeup for the actual film, and 2) the scene where they finally come face to face with the big white Promethean, and he just… goes berserk and starts killing people.

What a letdown.



Overall, the core concept of the movie itself, the overarching story, etc is incredible. I love all the ideas they were playing with.
Totally agree with that and that is why I can't help but like the film - it's almost as if I'm watching a better version of the movie in my head based on my fascination and enjoyment of the ideas, not the actual execution of it on the screen.
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Pretty solid movie. Meandered a bit at the end. Felt like it should have ended about 15 minutes sooner than it did but overall had a good time. There's a great throwback to the original film thrown in to please the fans.
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That was easily the most terrifying of all the alien films.
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Really enjoyed that.

Loved all the Easter eggs and shoutouts to Alien, Aliens, Prometheus, and Isolation.

This movie takes a serious turn in the last 20 minutes or so. When you think it's over, it's not. I feel like this part will be divisive, but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Loved the score and the production design. And I recommend seeing it in IMAX as it was filmed for that.

I think it's probably tied for #3 in the franchise for me, alongside Prometheus, and behind Alien and Aliens.
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Yeah, it's pretty good! And absolutely worth seeing in theaters.

That said, I would offer three caveats…

1) There's a fairly significant element from the first movie, used throughout this one to varying degrees of success. I'll put it this way… I liked the idea of it more than the execution.

2) At one point a character says a line from one of the first two movies, verbatim, that is so eye-rolling-ingly stupid, and makes zero sense how or why that character would even know that line, that it literally made me squirm in my seat. It's mindless fan service of the worst order.

3) The final act does, indeed, take a REALLY big swing. It worked for me (for the most part), and I appreciate that they tried something new, but your mileage may vary.

As of late, I've been seeing a number of reactions like this…



… and while, yes, I'll always prefer movies that are thematically rich and about something, this one didn't at all feel hollow. The characters have clearly defined goals, you feel empathy for the ones you're supposed to feel empathy for, there are massive obstacles in their way, and all of that was more than enough for me. It's basically Alien 1.5, and while not *quite* as good as the first two movies, it's totally worthy of sitting alongside them. If anything, it's just a super solid action/sci-fi/horror flick.
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We just saw Alien Romulus. It's over 2 hours of terror. They jived it with the other Alien movies in the series and it was well done. There were some surprises but basically you know the story and could guess what was going to happen next.

We enjoyed the movie and recommend it for those that like to have the **** scared out of them.
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Saw it tonight too, pretty entertaining. Back to telling a space horror story, and i actually appreciated the various nods to the earlier movies in the franchise.
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Found it kind of "meh" overall. Some scenes were really cool and played well on big screen. On the other hand many parts of the movie felt like I'd seen it before. Like TC mentions there's one scene with a verbatim quote from previous movie that felt forced. Bit of an eye roll moment but a few folks yelled out "yeah!!" I think folks opinion of the movie will be across the spectrum.

First impression I'd put this one on par with Prometheus.

Didn't drop $30 on the popcorn bucket. They may not have had any because I didn't see anyone with one. But I did get a free pin that they were handing out for seeing it tonight at a "fan event".

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I got a Weyland-Yutani patch.
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Haha thats great, parents didnt take me but i snuck in as an 11 year old.
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Saw it this evening, enjoyed it thoroughly. Would watch again.
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TCTTS said:




Drafthouse showed this before the showing.
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I think this was the best modern Alien film (Prometheus, Covenant, and Romulus). Genuinely scary. Harkened back to the first ones without too much cringe (other than that one moment).

I liked the third act. And I thought Cailee Spaeny did a great job. Some really cool space visuals as well.

CGI on one character was pretty bad bad I'll let it slide.

Would probably rank them

Alien
Aliens
Romulus
Prometheus
Covenant
Alien 3

The other movies don't exist.
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TCTTS said:


My dad took me when I was 12, a little older than the kid in the video. I honestly think he believed it would be another Star Wars-like movie because of the "In space" part of the tag line. That original movie did a number on my ability to get an uninterrupted night of sleep.
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I would say this tweet is technically inaccurate. By my count, Prometheus is actually referenced twice in Romulus; once via dialogue and the other way visually, via one major instance you won't miss. In fact, if I had to recommend two movies in the franchise to watch prior to this one, it would be Alien and Prometheus. Specifically, Alien is damn near required viewing, way more so than was expecting. To the point where this is *almost* more of a direct sequel than even Aliens is...

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Another thought... the final trailer people complained about giving too much away only ended up "spoiling" one death. This movie actually does a really great job of keep the surprises coming in that sense. Sure, the end results are probably about what you'd expect, but it turns out that trailer really didn't give away much at all, and there's so much more not in the trailers that ultimately get us to that end point.
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To the point where this is *almost* more of a direct sequel than even Aliens is...
Well if AR takes place between the first two movies, then I guess it is the direct sequel......
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Taking the family to see this tonight. So checking out of this thread until later.
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Sigourney Weaver obviously makes Aliens more of a sequel seeing as it's the continuation of her story. But in terms of plot - not character - this one really is like Alien 1.5, or rather Alien: Epilogue. I was genuinely surprised by that.
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I snuck off and watched it today at the "IMAX" at the grand marquee on I-10 at 610 in Houston (I don't think it's true IMAX but really impressive regardless). I was probably 8 or 9 when I saw Aliens for the first time in VHS, and while I'm usually not a fan of "sequels" like this, I really enjoyed it. Even the callbacks, which I thought weren't overly in your face. Definitely one of my favorites (top 3) from the franchise.
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I was 5 in 1979 and my parents did not take me to see Alien. However, my mom did buy me this toy at a garage sale. It's head glowed in the dark, so I couldn't sleep unless I buried it deep enough in my toy box so that I couldn't see it from my bed across the room

18" tall and apparently going for hundreds of dollars on ebay. Wish I would have kept that.


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I also didn't even know it was from Alien. I just thought it was a cool toy that bordered on scaring the hell out of me. Several years later when I did finally see Alien, I was like "oh, hey, I have that toy!"
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Reminder that we get yet another Alien project next year, in the form of Alien: Earth, an FX series from Noah Hawley, creator of the Fargo and Legion series...

 
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