Fun movie to the point of laughing out loud at times. But agree about the pacing and about 10-15 minutes were unnecessary. But I really do enjoy movies that make fun of themselves and the industry a bit. This one does that.

The wife approved, but she said she definitely preferred the Ministry of Ungentlemenly Warfare...just as a point of reference for anyone deciding. I'd agree with her there.

Logos Stick said:

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I read it bombed. $25 mil. Woke or Bidenflation?

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not woke. It was a pretty good movie that left politics out and wasn't preachy.

TCTTS said:

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To actually answer the question, though, these are the various reasons/excuses I've been hearing so far…

- To kick off the summer blockbuster season, audiences have been trained to expect a big Marvel movie the first weekend of May. With the exception of 2020 and 2021 due to Covid, the first weekend in May has been home to a Marvel blockbuster going all the way back to 2007 with Spider-Man 3. So 15 of the last 17 years. But because of last year's strikes, Marvel wasn't going to have their next movie ready in time, so The Fall Guy took the spot.

- When it comes to mid-tier action movies that aren't massive spectacles, audiences have been trained to wait for streaming. In other words, combined with it being a Marvel(less) weekend, there was no urgency to rush out and see it.

- "The Fall Guy" IP isn't very strong. Seeing as a huge chunk of the audience had no idea this was based on a 40-year-old TV show, the title doesn't make a whole lot of sense until after you've seen the movie. Never mind that it apparently hardly resembles the show at all.

- Gosling and Blunt are both in their 40s and not exactly spring chickens. Younger audiences didn't show up as a result.

- It should have been either more of a romantic comedy or more of an action movie. The 50/50 split didn't service either in the way audiences were hungry for.

Otherwise, this definitely wasn't "Bidenflation," seeing as audiences have been showing up in higher-than-expected numbers all year, for Dune, Godzilla x Kong, Kung-Fu Panda, Ghostbusters, The Beekeeper, Civil War, etc. While Kingdom of the Planet of Apes is looking to over-perform this coming weekend as well.

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The reason that you're annoying is that you come across as a know-it-all. Seems you've decided you're the expert in the room and can't accept opposing opinions.

A bunch of what you posted above is purely speculation on your part.

I would argue that Gosling and Blunt have plenty of star power...even in their 40s.

You may be on to something with the title argument. For whatever reason, audiences were drawn to the theater on opening weekend.

But I don't think it's b/c of some of the reasons you posted.

Regarding the romantic/comedy split, how the hell would you know what audiences are hungry for? And if they didn't show up to see it, they wouldn't even know much about the movie anyway. You already conceded it was not what you were expecting.

And of course, most families are having to make spending decisions based on rising costs of fuel, groceries, etc. Many, like me, are opting for streaming and skipping the theater. My wife and I just happened to take a date day and decided this is a movie that we'd both be interested in. She really enjoyed it and had never seen the tv show. But it did help that I explained that the movie was sourced from the television series. She thought it was cool that the theme song and original actors showed up in the movie, and she's a fan of both leads.

Again, you came on to tell everyone all the reasons why you didn't like it (but insist you also did enjoy it). People disagree with you, and we've got issues or simply don't have the knowledge to understand why we're wrong.

I'll also add that you were the first person to start making personal insults in this thread.

It's a total popcorn movie but made me laugh out loud several times and had some great action pieces. Worth seeing at the theater in my opinion.

JFC.

Seriously… can you not read?

I didn't say these are MY reasons. I literally said these are the reasons I'm HEARING. I also literally called them "excuses"… i.e. speculation.

Also… I work in the industry. So, yeah, I do feel like I know a bit more than most people here. For the same reasons a car mechanic knows more about cars than most people. Not because I'm special, but because it's my literal job to try and understand all of this.

In that sense, my post was merely a "here's what people are saying" kind of thing, and not meant to be any kind of a final word on the matter. But because a handful of you are so obsessed with constantly sh*tting on me, you read right past that part, assumed the worst, and are now attacking me, yet again, for no good reason.

I'm sorry you're so triggered by my existence.

But good lord, I've never seen someone so angry and offended by the fact that I didn't like a movie as much as them. Between you and the Taylor Swift Nazis the past few days, this board has lost its damn mind. Did you all happen to drink from the same water source? What the hell is going on?

TCTTS said:

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Also… I work in the industry.

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He does work in the industry. That's long established on this board.

Since some of my sources have dried up, I rely on him here and also Matt Belloni of Puck.

Hollywood is a company town, and in many ways still a small one. His information has proven reliable, and IMO some of my details about spirits / aliens / elohims have made their way into notes / spec scripts.

aggierogue said:

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TCTTS said:

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To actually answer the question, though, these are the various reasons/excuses I've been hearing so far…

- To kick off the summer blockbuster season, audiences have been trained to expect a big Marvel movie the first weekend of May. With the exception of 2020 and 2021 due to Covid, the first weekend in May has been home to a Marvel blockbuster going all the way back to 2007 with Spider-Man 3. So 15 of the last 17 years. But because of last year's strikes, Marvel wasn't going to have their next movie ready in time, so The Fall Guy took the spot.

- When it comes to mid-tier action movies that aren't massive spectacles, audiences have been trained to wait for streaming. In other words, combined with it being a Marvel(less) weekend, there was no urgency to rush out and see it.

- "The Fall Guy" IP isn't very strong. Seeing as a huge chunk of the audience had no idea this was based on a 40-year-old TV show, the title doesn't make a whole lot of sense until after you've seen the movie. Never mind that it apparently hardly resembles the show at all.

- Gosling and Blunt are both in their 40s and not exactly spring chickens. Younger audiences didn't show up as a result.

- It should have been either more of a romantic comedy or more of an action movie. The 50/50 split didn't service either in the way audiences were hungry for.

Otherwise, this definitely wasn't "Bidenflation," seeing as audiences have been showing up in higher-than-expected numbers all year, for Dune, Godzilla x Kong, Kung-Fu Panda, Ghostbusters, The Beekeeper, Civil War, etc. While Kingdom of the Planet of Apes is looking to over-perform this coming weekend as well.

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The reason that you're annoying is that you come across as a know-it-all. Seems you've decided you're the expert in the room and can't accept opposing opinions.

A bunch of what you posted above is purely speculation on your part.

I would argue that Gosling and Blunt have plenty of star power...even in their 40s.

You may be on to something with the title argument. For whatever reason, audiences were drawn to the theater on opening weekend.

But I don't think it's b/c of some of the reasons you posted.

Regarding the romantic/comedy split, how the hell would you know what audiences are hungry for? And if they didn't show up to see it, they wouldn't even know much about the movie anyway. You already conceded it was not what you were expecting.

And of course, most families are having to make spending decisions based on rising costs of fuel, groceries, etc. Many, like me, are opting for streaming and skipping the theater. My wife and I just happened to take a date day and decided this is a movie that we'd both be interested in. She really enjoyed it and had never seen the tv show. But it did help that I explained that the movie was sourced from the television series. She thought it was cool that the theme song and original actors showed up in the movie, and she's a fan of both leads.

Again, you came on to tell everyone all the reasons why you didn't like it (but insist you also did enjoy it). People disagree with you, and we've got issues or simply don't have the knowledge to understand why we're wrong.

I'll also add that you were the first person to start making personal insults in this thread.

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I am going to trust TCTTS about the business of movies than some of the schlubs on this board (including you).

And I ****ing loved the movie and how it was a love letter to stunts in films and disagree with him on several of his points.

But this is ****ing Texags that gets disagreement confused with hateboners.

Besides several of his points were echoed by Matt Belloni on his podcast today, especially the streaming aspect and this not being Marvel in May

Did not have this ridiculousness on my Bingo card. (Just like I didn't have the Taylor Swift fiasco on mine.)

This is going to be a ridiculous film summer, now that F16 has infiltrated.

Reasonable discourse, people. It's not hard.

Talk about actually seeing something, talk about marketing, talk about ideas and misfires. Talk about what made sense/didn't.

TCTTS said:

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JFC.

Seriously… can you not read?

I didn't say these are MY reasons. I literally said these are the reasons I'm HEARING. I also literally called them "excuses"… i.e. speculation.

Also… I work in the industry. So, yeah, I do feel like I know a bit more than most people here. For the same reasons a car mechanic knows more about cars than most people. Not because I'm special, but because it's my literal job to try and understand all of this.

In that sense, my post was merely a "here's what people are saying" kind of thing, and not meant to be any kind of a final word on the matter. But because a handful of you are so obsessed with constantly sh*tting on me, you read right past that part, assumed the worst, and are now attacking me, yet again, for no good reason.

I'm sorry you're so triggered by my existence.

But good lord, I've never seen someone so angry and offended by the fact that I didn't like a movie as much as them. Between you and the Taylor Swift Nazis the past few days, this board has lost its damn mind. Did you all happen to drink from the same water source? What the hell is going on?

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Lmao. I'm triggered? Read your own posts.

"JFC"
"Good lord"
"The movie isn't going to f/ck you."

Take a breath Siskel.

I can promise you I didn't even know your handle until this week. But it does sound like this is a pattern of behavior for you. Perhaps try looking in the mirror.

And IDGAF about your industry experience or if you liked this movie. I guess you think I'm supposed to be impressed, but I can figure out whether I like a movie without your help. You and others like take yourself far too seriously.

If you don't want people saying mean things to you, try not starting off being an *******.

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aggierogue said:

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TCTTS said:

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To actually answer the question, though, these are the various reasons/excuses I've been hearing so far…

- To kick off the summer blockbuster season, audiences have been trained to expect a big Marvel movie the first weekend of May. With the exception of 2020 and 2021 due to Covid, the first weekend in May has been home to a Marvel blockbuster going all the way back to 2007 with Spider-Man 3. So 15 of the last 17 years. But because of last year's strikes, Marvel wasn't going to have their next movie ready in time, so The Fall Guy took the spot.

- When it comes to mid-tier action movies that aren't massive spectacles, audiences have been trained to wait for streaming. In other words, combined with it being a Marvel(less) weekend, there was no urgency to rush out and see it.

- "The Fall Guy" IP isn't very strong. Seeing as a huge chunk of the audience had no idea this was based on a 40-year-old TV show, the title doesn't make a whole lot of sense until after you've seen the movie. Never mind that it apparently hardly resembles the show at all.

- Gosling and Blunt are both in their 40s and not exactly spring chickens. Younger audiences didn't show up as a result.

- It should have been either more of a romantic comedy or more of an action movie. The 50/50 split didn't service either in the way audiences were hungry for.

Otherwise, this definitely wasn't "Bidenflation," seeing as audiences have been showing up in higher-than-expected numbers all year, for Dune, Godzilla x Kong, Kung-Fu Panda, Ghostbusters, The Beekeeper, Civil War, etc. While Kingdom of the Planet of Apes is looking to over-perform this coming weekend as well.

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The reason that you're annoying is that you come across as a know-it-all. Seems you've decided you're the expert in the room and can't accept opposing opinions.

A bunch of what you posted above is purely speculation on your part.

I would argue that Gosling and Blunt have plenty of star power...even in their 40s.

You may be on to something with the title argument. For whatever reason, audiences were drawn to the theater on opening weekend.

But I don't think it's b/c of some of the reasons you posted.

Regarding the romantic/comedy split, how the hell would you know what audiences are hungry for? And if they didn't show up to see it, they wouldn't even know much about the movie anyway. You already conceded it was not what you were expecting.

And of course, most families are having to make spending decisions based on rising costs of fuel, groceries, etc. Many, like me, are opting for streaming and skipping the theater. My wife and I just happened to take a date day and decided this is a movie that we'd both be interested in. She really enjoyed it and had never seen the tv show. But it did help that I explained that the movie was sourced from the television series. She thought it was cool that the theme song and original actors showed up in the movie, and she's a fan of both leads.

Again, you came on to tell everyone all the reasons why you didn't like it (but insist you also did enjoy it). People disagree with you, and we've got issues or simply don't have the knowledge to understand why we're wrong.

I'll also add that you were the first person to start making personal insults in this thread.

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I am going to trust TCTTS about the business of movies than some of the schlubs on this board (including you).

And I ****ing loved the movie and how it was a love letter to stunts in films and disagree with him on several of his points.

But this is ****ing Texags that gets disagreement confused with hateboners.

Besides several of his points were echoed by Matt Belloni on his podcast today, especially the streaming aspect and this not being Marvel in May

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I'm so hurt. Schlub...Bwahahaha!

All this block quoting is burying my posts.

Direct reply is much better.

What have you posted that is so interesting?

maroon barchetta said:

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What have you posted that is so interesting?

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Trust me, Redstone is so deep in the know regarding Tinseltown that you won't even know what's interesting about his posts until 6-9 months after he posts them. So show some respect and just absorb his knowledge.

aggierogue said:

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TCTTS said:

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JFC.

Seriously… can you not read?

I didn't say these are MY reasons. I literally said these are the reasons I'm HEARING. I also literally called them "excuses"… i.e. speculation.

Also… I work in the industry. So, yeah, I do feel like I know a bit more than most people here. For the same reasons a car mechanic knows more about cars than most people. Not because I'm special, but because it's my literal job to try and understand all of this.

In that sense, my post was merely a "here's what people are saying" kind of thing, and not meant to be any kind of a final word on the matter. But because a handful of you are so obsessed with constantly sh*tting on me, you read right past that part, assumed the worst, and are now attacking me, yet again, for no good reason.

I'm sorry you're so triggered by my existence.

But good lord, I've never seen someone so angry and offended by the fact that I didn't like a movie as much as them. Between you and the Taylor Swift Nazis the past few days, this board has lost its damn mind. Did you all happen to drink from the same water source? What the hell is going on?

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Lmao. I'm triggered? Read your own posts.

"JFC"
"Good lord"
"The movie isn't going to f/ck you."

Take a breath Siskel.

I can promise you I didn't even know your handle until this week. But it does sound like this is a pattern of behavior for you. Perhaps try looking in the mirror.

And IDGAF about your industry experience or if you liked this movie. I guess you think I'm supposed to be impressed, but I can figure out whether I like a movie without your help. You and others like take yourself far too seriously.

If you don't want people saying mean things to you, try not starting off being an *******.

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*Spends the past three days, across dozens of posts, obsessively chastising me for expressing my opinion on The Fall Guy.*

Tonight: "I don't give a f/ck if you liked this movie!"

Thank you for literally making me laugh out loud.

All of this, while I've said countless times now that I actually had a good time watching the movie!

I swear, the belligerent brain rot on this board is truly something to behold.

Saxsoon said:

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aggierogue said:

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TCTTS said:

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To actually answer the question, though, these are the various reasons/excuses I've been hearing so far…

- To kick off the summer blockbuster season, audiences have been trained to expect a big Marvel movie the first weekend of May. With the exception of 2020 and 2021 due to Covid, the first weekend in May has been home to a Marvel blockbuster going all the way back to 2007 with Spider-Man 3. So 15 of the last 17 years. But because of last year's strikes, Marvel wasn't going to have their next movie ready in time, so The Fall Guy took the spot.

- When it comes to mid-tier action movies that aren't massive spectacles, audiences have been trained to wait for streaming. In other words, combined with it being a Marvel(less) weekend, there was no urgency to rush out and see it.

- "The Fall Guy" IP isn't very strong. Seeing as a huge chunk of the audience had no idea this was based on a 40-year-old TV show, the title doesn't make a whole lot of sense until after you've seen the movie. Never mind that it apparently hardly resembles the show at all.

- Gosling and Blunt are both in their 40s and not exactly spring chickens. Younger audiences didn't show up as a result.

- It should have been either more of a romantic comedy or more of an action movie. The 50/50 split didn't service either in the way audiences were hungry for.

Otherwise, this definitely wasn't "Bidenflation," seeing as audiences have been showing up in higher-than-expected numbers all year, for Dune, Godzilla x Kong, Kung-Fu Panda, Ghostbusters, The Beekeeper, Civil War, etc. While Kingdom of the Planet of Apes is looking to over-perform this coming weekend as well.

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The reason that you're annoying is that you come across as a know-it-all. Seems you've decided you're the expert in the room and can't accept opposing opinions.

A bunch of what you posted above is purely speculation on your part.

I would argue that Gosling and Blunt have plenty of star power...even in their 40s.

You may be on to something with the title argument. For whatever reason, audiences were drawn to the theater on opening weekend.

But I don't think it's b/c of some of the reasons you posted.

Regarding the romantic/comedy split, how the hell would you know what audiences are hungry for? And if they didn't show up to see it, they wouldn't even know much about the movie anyway. You already conceded it was not what you were expecting.

And of course, most families are having to make spending decisions based on rising costs of fuel, groceries, etc. Many, like me, are opting for streaming and skipping the theater. My wife and I just happened to take a date day and decided this is a movie that we'd both be interested in. She really enjoyed it and had never seen the tv show. But it did help that I explained that the movie was sourced from the television series. She thought it was cool that the theme song and original actors showed up in the movie, and she's a fan of both leads.

Again, you came on to tell everyone all the reasons why you didn't like it (but insist you also did enjoy it). People disagree with you, and we've got issues or simply don't have the knowledge to understand why we're wrong.

I'll also add that you were the first person to start making personal insults in this thread.

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I am going to trust TCTTS about the business of movies than some of the schlubs on this board (including you).

And I ****ing loved the movie and how it was a love letter to stunts in films and disagree with him on several of his points.

But this is ****ing Texags that gets disagreement confused with hateboners.

Besides several of his points were echoed by Matt Belloni on his podcast today, especially the streaming aspect and this not being Marvel in May

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You calling me a schlub, son?

Fact is TCTTS tried to use nominal ticket sales revenue to prove that movie attendance has not been impacted by general economics. That's almost literal ******ation. But sure, trust in TCTTS.

Entertainment is one of the first things to be impacted in an inflationary environment. Asking if that was the reason, or part of the reason, the movie bombed is completely rational and reasonable. Dismissing it as a factor is stupid.

Also, wokeism is a very real thing now in Hollywood and a huge portion of the population is turned off by it. Again, asking about inflation or wokeism as a reason for the epic bomb is not injecting ideology into the thread.

But TCTTS, being the radical lefty he is, posted up a bunch of ****ing illogical nonsense to prove neither is relevant. Ryan Gosling being 43 is a factor? LMFAO. Are you ****ing serious?! Somebody call Tom Cruise already.

I'll let you guys have your safe space back now.

Enjoy the wisdom imparted from on high by the movie god named TCTTS. LoL.

"Radical lefty."

Never in million years could I have predicted how much my middling opinion about a movie I mostly enjoyed, while simply quoting some industry types about why they think it failed at the box office, would send a handful of people in this thread completely off the handle.

I'm almost speechless at this point.

I mean, I genuinely don't understand how you guys don't hear yourselves, and can't see how batsh*t insane you sound over something so innocuous and stupid. It's beyond obvious I've somehow hit a massive nerve, though, for simply not fully loving the movie, saying a not-at-all woke movie isn't woke, and asking you to provide actual facts and figures to back up your box office claims (while you continue to refuse to do so).

Seriously… why do so many angry, politically obsessed people frequent this board? And why is it seemingly getting worse? What is missing in your lives that you feel the constant need to try and instigate sh*t and spew political bullsh*t on the entertainment board of a college football website? What's the psychology behind it? What itch does it scratch? And how do you not realize how sad and pathetic it all is?

Also, for the record…

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Entertainment is one of the first things to be impacted in an inflationary environment. Asking if that was the reason, or part of the reason, the movie bombed is completely rational and reasonable. Dismissing it as a factor is stupid.

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… this isn't at all what happened. Instead, you gave a very specific number in saying that ticket sales are "half" of what they were in 2019. And the "half" is the part I refuted by providing actual numbers to show that ticket sales are actually 79% of what they were in 2019. Math that you then mocked before insinuating that I was an "idiot."

So, to be clear, I never dismissed inflation as a contributing factor. Rather, I was disputing your very specific claim, one you have refused to back up with any numbers of your own multiple times now.

But this is what you guys always do. When your dumb, drive-by arguments aren't working out the way you planned, you quickly move the goal posts to paint us as arguing something we weren't. It's par for the course.

This thread has turned into a Tropic Thunder-like train wreck. The arguments about the reviews have become bigger than the actual movie.

I see a couple of personalities I've really come to enjoy on Texags come to virtual blows.

Honestly, I'm totally enjoying the drama, but I hope no one leaves the Entertainment Board as a result.

It's the same person in EVERY argument on this board. I am not advocating for it, but this place would probably be a lot more laid back if that poster wasn't here.

Sea Speed said:

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It's the same person in EVERY argument on this board. I am not advocating for it, but this place would probably be a lot more laid back if that poster wasn't here.

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We'll miss you.

To play along, your initial post was simply,

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I read it bombed. $25 mil. Woke or Bidenflation?

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Your post implies the only reason it could have failed is because of liberal politics. You also more or less imply that your two reasons are the only logical ones, while multiple other reasons offered up are just illogical nonsense.

I agree there's someone on this thread who needs to retreat to their safespace, but based on the hyperbole and overreaction of your response its not who you think it is.

Sea Speed said:

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It's the same person in EVERY argument on this board. I am not advocating for it, but this place would probably be a lot more laid back if that poster wasn't here.

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So I'm the only one to blame here.

Got it.

It couldn't also have anything to do with the fact that a number of politically obsessed posters come here to constantly single me out, constantly talk sh*t to and about me, constantly make up complete nonsense about me, while generally hating my guts for representing something they so clearly despise (Hollywood), and for challenging from time to time the lies and nonsense they post here.

And the only two options to solve this are either 1) I leave, or the other popular go-to 2) I'm just supposed to ignore their relentless attacks.

Really?

The solution can't be for them to stop? And keep their politics on the… I don't know… politics board?

I mean, this thread is a perfect example. Literally all I did was express a couple issues with a movie I mostly liked, then people suddenly showed up out of the woodwork to take me to task, ascribing all kinds of batsh*t motivations to me in the process, ultimately resulting in me being labeled a "radical lefty."

But yep, it's all me.

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I'm almost speechless at this point.

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Don't tease us.

What a child.

No one on this thread singled you out, but you took the ball and ran with it as always. One poster asked a question that you took humbrage with and it devolved to what we are seeing now. You do not need to get enraged at every single post that you think shouldn't be on this board. The reason people get involved in arguments with you and you specifically is because you always respond with these paragraphs long replies in attack mode and people tend to respond in kind when that happens.

"No one on this thread singled you out" is maybe the biggest crock of sh*t I've ever read on this board, and just more of the same gaslighting you guys ALWAYS engage in.

For those who have made it this far and still interested in the MOVIE
'The Fall Guy' review: Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt make movie magic

Some of you idiots have the same problem that my 12 year old daughter has.

You have to have the last word.

You can use a message board 2 ways.

To talk about things that you like and enjoy.

or

To argue incessantly with other people about things that neither of you will convince the other is correct.

One of you, some of you, any of you, for the love of God, realize that the other person isn't "winning" if you decide not to respond to their message. You don't have to keep firing back. You're all idiots for doing it.