TCTTS said:

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I don't mean to be the lone party pooper, because it's definitely a fun movie, and I had a decent time overall. But it's waaaaay dumber and a lot more random than I was expecting too. It's also bloated as hell, weirdly paced, and almost ridiculously over-the-top at times. The latter of which being the point, one could argue, and I wouldn't push back, but some of the goofiness just wasn't for me.

With all the good buzz, I was disappointed it's having such a bad weekend, box-office-wise. I was really hoping the summer would kick off on a more positive note. But now? I totally get it, and $28M sounds about right. Despite all the charm Gosling and Blunt bring, this thing is pretty damn sloppy, doesn't feel quite worthy of the first-weekend-in-May slot, and would have been better-served back in March, when it was originally set to release.

If anything, I'm now really glad David Leitch had "creative differences" with Spielberg & co over the next Jurassic Park, and won't be directing that movie. As bad as that franchise has been at times, Leitch's sensibilities just aren't a good match at all.

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I'm definitely seeing it based on this review and the poster who made it.

Logos Stick said:

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I read it bombed. $25 mil. Woke or Bidenflation?

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Thought for sure this was satire, but I took a peek at your profile just in case. Nope.

To actually answer the question, though, these are the various reasons/excuses I've been hearing so far…

- To kick off the summer blockbuster season, audiences have been trained to expect a big Marvel movie the first weekend of May. With the exception of 2020 and 2021 due to Covid, the first weekend in May has been home to a Marvel blockbuster going all the way back to 2007 with Spider-Man 3. So 15 of the last 17 years. But because of last year's strikes, Marvel wasn't going to have their next movie ready in time, so The Fall Guy took the spot.

- When it comes to mid-tier action movies that aren't massive spectacles, audiences have been trained to wait for streaming. In other words, combined with it being a Marvel(less) weekend, there was no urgency to rush out and see it.

- "The Fall Guy" IP isn't very strong. Seeing as a huge chunk of the audience had no idea this was based on a 40-year-old TV show, the title doesn't make a whole lot of sense until after you've seen the movie. Never mind that it apparently hardly resembles the show at all.

- Gosling and Blunt are both in their 40s and not exactly spring chickens. Younger audiences didn't show up as a result.

- It should have been either more of a romantic comedy or more of an action movie. The 50/50 split didn't service either in the way audiences were hungry for.

Otherwise, this definitely wasn't "Bidenflation," seeing as audiences have been showing up in higher-than-expected numbers all year, for Dune, Godzilla x Kong, Kung-Fu Panda, Ghostbusters, The Beekeeper, Civil War, etc. While Kingdom of the Planet of Apes is looking to over-perform this coming weekend as well.

Oh, it definitely bombed. Just not due to "woke" or "Bidenflation" or whatever dumbass nonsense.

TCTTS said:

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Oh, it definitely bombed. Just not due to "woke" or "Bidenflation" or whatever dumbass nonsense.

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Of course. Inflation doesn't affect peoples' movie going decisions. Bwahahahahaha.

Ticket sales are still half what they were pre Biden. Inflation is a huge reason. Only an idiot would think otherwise.

The reasons you posted above is nothing but copium.

Logos Stick said:

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TCTTS said:

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Oh, it definitely bombed. Just not due to "woke" or "Bidenflation" or whatever dumbass nonsense.

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Of course. Inflation doesn't affect peoples' movie going decisions. Bwahahahahaha.

Ticket sales are still half what they were pre Biden. Inflation is a huge reason. Only an idiot would think otherwise.

The reasons you posted above is nothing but copium.

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This simply isn't a remotely true statement.

There are no facts, figures, or math you can point to that back this statistic up.

Ticket sales are down compared to pre-pandemic levels, sure. Everyone and their dog knows that.

But ticket sales have risen every year since then, and in 2023 totaled $8.9 billion. Compared to 2019, when they totaled $11.3 billion. In other words, ticket sales are currently 79% of what they were in 2019.

No where close to "half what they were pre Biden."

Never mind the fact that, again, ticket sales in 2024 have been out performing expectations yet again, up until this past weekend.

Here, in reality, the truth is much simpler... one look at your posting habits and it's clear you spend an inordinate amount of time on F16, which indicates that you're a politically obsessed individual who views the world through a highly partisan lens, one almost assuredly distorted toward the hard right. Thus, you're prone to performative outrage and blaming most of the country's ills on the left, as a way of defining yourself, validating yourself, and making sense of the world.

The mere fact that you clearly and explicitly came here to start sh*t by injecting politics all but proves this.

By all means, though, continue spewing your bullsh*t, and I'll continue providing actual facts and figures that objectively dispute it.

Staff, can we get an F 13.5 board titled "Politi-tainment" or something? Posters who refuse to take off their political blinders even for just a few hours to watch a show and then discuss it would be required to post there instead of here.

There on that board they could rage about wokeness and politics ruining and dooming classic fare like The Fall Guy, and they won't have to deal with simpletons who hold the naive notion that a movie bombed simply because it wasn't good.

Eta, this is meant for TCTTS

[But ticket sales have risen every year since then, and in 2023 totaled $8.9 billion. Compared to 2019, when they totaled $11.3 billion. In other words, ticket sales are currently 79% of what they were in 2019.]

Lol, that's nominal spend. Do you understand what that is? I doubt you do. You have to look at ticket volume. Unless you want to do some arithmetic and adjust your numbers to 2019 dollars.

I had a simple question about the reason this movie bombed and proferred two valid reasons.

I'm sorry that triggered you which caused you to lash out with ad homs and irrational nonsense.

Keep moving those goal posts, buddy!

No matter how you slice it - nominal spend, ticket volume, whatever - it's still not "half" of what it was pre Biden, or anywhere close.

Feel free to provide actual facts, figures, or statistics, though, as opposed to your big words and bias nonsense.

Also, if you think any of the five potential explanations I offered are any less valid than laughably exclaiming, in drive-by fashion, cliched words like "woke" and "Bidenflation," I don't know what else to tell you. "Woke" is the last thing this movie is, to the point where it's hilarious you'd even assume that, and we've now covered the "Bidenflation" bullsh*t ad nauseum.

How about you go have fun in your deranged little world, while the rest of us continue discussing the movie, sans ridiculous politics.

Logos Stick said:

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Or how about we simply discuss potential reasons it bombed in this thread without cutting ourselves and screaming to staff for a safe space.

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By bringing Bidenflation into the discussion of why this movie tanked its clear that you're looking for any reason to inject politics into a discussion about Hollywood, as evidenced by the use of the term Bidenflation rather than just inflation. It just gets old trying to truly discuss entertainment but then have the topic get sidetracked by posters trying to fit every discussion into the political realm.

Heck, I am the target audience for this movie. I grew up loving the Fall Guy, have enough disposable income at the ready, and had nothing to do this past weekend. Yet you can go to Page 1 of this thread and see my post where I state that the trailer simply didn't grab me. Just from the trailer 1) I couldn't tell what type of movie this was going to be, and 2) it looked like it took too many liberties with the concept of the O.G. tv show for my liking.

There is not a huge group of people clamoring to see The Fall Guy movie in the theaters if only they had the cash to do so.

Redstone said:

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TNNCS and I have been allies since the aliens thread, of which he is OP. I have decided to make the thread my chosen vehicle of "I Told You So" at Disclosure.

Therefore, I'm on his side in this dust up.

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Another thread ruined by Gru and his minions

TCTTS said:

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Also, as weird as you're being toward me for not having seen, nor having been able to appreciate references to a 40-year-old TV show, I could keep bringing up the fact that the in-world movie making in this thing so little resembles how movies are actually made, to such a comical degree, that it took me out of the movie numerous times. But you don't see me trying to hold you to that same standard, because, ultimately, who cares? All I know is that I shouldn't have to have seen a 40-year-old TV show to fully appreciate a movie, just like you shouldn't have to know exactly how movies are made to understand why I found that aspect so needlessly inconsistent and dumb at times.

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So Hollywood took liberties with real life!!!

Oh, the HORROR!!!!

TCTTS said:

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You have issues, dude.

That, and this movie's not going to f/ck you.

The way some of you react to a simple opinion about a random action comedy truly is mind blowing.

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Did YOU, of all people, the biggest drama queen on this web site really say that! That's funny!

Some of y'all have some serious problems and I suggest therapy or rehab or just taking a walk in the woods or something.

It's incredible how dumb these arguments seem when I'm not involved.

This "bomb" is probably the the bomb of one of my more favorite movies. John Carter. The trailer made you question what the movie was all about. Even though "most" people actually liked it once they saw it. Will now see if TCTTS or Redstone actually liked John Carter.

This movie should've been called The Stuntman.

Logos Stick said:

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Eta, this is meant for TCTTS

[But ticket sales have risen every year since then, and in 2023 totaled $8.9 billion. Compared to 2019, when they totaled $11.3 billion. In other words, ticket sales are currently 79% of what they were in 2019.]

Lol, that's nominal spend. Do you understand what that is? I doubt you do. You have to look at ticket volume. Unless you want to do some arithmetic and adjust your numbers to 2019 dollars.

I had a simple question about the reason this movie bombed and proferred two valid reasons.

I'm sorry that triggered you which caused you to lash out with ad homs and irrational nonsense.

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dude I'm about as conservative as it gets and politics and who's in charge has nothing to do with "The Fall Guy"

TC gave a pretty well detailed answer as to giving an idea for why this film could be underperforming and any one of those ideas makes way more sense than anything you've contributed to this thread…..

If you like both of them and the premise sounds appealing, go see it. It was fun.

BadMoonRisin said:

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dang so is this a wait-and-stream? The trailer looked pretty fun. I love both Gosling and Blunt, generally speaking.

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Go see it. My wife and I went Sunday and it was great! She commented that it was a perfect movie, funny, with a little romance, lots of action, nothing gorey or raunchy. No real bad cussing. It was a nice day at the theater!

Overpriced movies have been bombing for 100+ years.

This movie never should have been made for what it cost, because it never was going to do more than $30M this weekend. "Bomb" is relative to budget, and almost anyone (except the people at Universal that greenlit it) could have guessed this would be the case.

Studios have misfired and overspent on films through every single administration. How dense do you have to be to not see that?

My qualifiers for this movie were Heather Thomas, Lee Majors, the truck, the song and a ridiculous plot (just like the tv show that I loved as a kid.) It had all of those and I enjoyed it. I don't care what it does at the box office, for me it was a campy piece of popcorn nostalgia and I liked it for that.

If you are thinking that this should be some masterpiece theatre or box office super hero movie, then you never watched the tv show.


Hell...it even had a six million dollar man sound effect at one point.