Aggie_Journalist said:
At what point does this thread get moved to the politics board?
https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/12/on-the-psychology-of-the-conspiracy-denier/https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-drawn-to-conspiracy-theories-share-a-cluster-of-psychological-features/Aztec1948 said:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/12/on-the-psychology-of-the-conspiracy-denier/
MiniShrike said:
I'm certain I'll catch a perma in the morning, and I know the rules so it's justified.
But there arw lots of folks on this thread who painted with awfully broad brushes with their insults who won't, and others who were just being dicks.
What's messed-up in my opinion is that when we go see Barbie, or Oppenheimer( both of which I will see this weekend), the precedent has been set that this producer or that actor has views that offend some people. And so we start again.
Is that where we want this to go?
MiniShrike said:
Mods, how is this thread still alive, and how haven't there been a slew of bans? On every "Side?"
Yes, I'm openly questioning moderation, which in this case is richly deserved.
Do better.
Pluralizes Everythings said:
Some of ya'll need to pay attention to who you're "aligning yourself with." When a pedo Advocacy Group is making the same arguments you are, maybe...juuuuust maybe you've believed a lie, and should turn away from the issue alltogether.
==Former Pedophile Advocacy Group Spokesman Writes Bloomberg Hit Piece On 'Sound Of Freedom'==
The group's blog posts have mentioned "kink" and "child protection" in the same breath. Prostasia has also argued against criminalizing fantasy child pornography and in favor of keeping child sex dolls legal.
Besides his stint as communications director for Prostasia, Berlatsky has a long social media history of defending pedophiles.
"Pedophiles are essentially a stigmatized group. Certain people get designated as deviants, people hate them," Berlatsky tweeted in February, 2017, according to a screenshot.
"The issue isn't that people care about the victims. The issue is that pedophiles are loathed," Berlatsky tweeted the same day in 2017.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-pedophile-advocacy-group-spokesman-writes-bloomberg-hit-piece-on-sound-of-freedom
Whether you like it or not, you'll be associated with them, just like you associated the goofy Qanon crowd with anything you didn't like.
TCTTS said:MiniShrike said:
I'm certain I'll catch a perma in the morning, and I know the rules so it's justified.
But there arw lots of folks on this thread who painted with awfully broad brushes with their insults who won't, and others who were just being dicks.
What's messed-up in my opinion is that when we go see Barbie, or Oppenheimer( both of which I will see this weekend), the precedent has been set that this producer or that actor has views that offend some people. And so we start again.
Is that where we want this to go?
For me, it comes down to being consistent in one's beliefs/complaints. I've accepted the fact that there is a small but loud contingent on this board who feels the need to view every last thing in their lives through a political lens, especially the entertainment they consume, and then complain about it endlessly. But if they don't want to watch something because of the political views of someone involved, or the corporation making it, that's completely fine. More power to them, no one's forcing them to watch, etc.
What gets to me is that, when the tables are turned, those very same people come completely unhinged. They suddenly become the most offended people ever, literally labeling those who don't fall exactly in line with their way of thinking as being pro-child-trafficking, of being evil, of derailing threads, etc. When these EXACT people have derailed countless threads doing the exact same thing here, for years and years. Except those of us who don't fall exactly in line with their way of thinking aren't even griping about the movie itself, and most of us aren't saying we're not going to see it. Which makes the opposing side all the more hypocritical.
Another Doug said:There are two types of forum16 posters on Texags, those who posted on Q-anon, and those who's account were conveniently created after the thread was deleted.tk for tu juan said:
There was a thread in one forum that had hundreds of pages and thousands of replies until it was deleted in 2020 or 2021, yet no one from that forum has any knowledge of what was inside it.
TCTTS said:Pluralizes Everythings said:
Some of ya'll need to pay attention to who you're "aligning yourself with." When a pedo Advocacy Group is making the same arguments you are, maybe...juuuuust maybe you've believed a lie, and should turn away from the issue alltogether.
==Former Pedophile Advocacy Group Spokesman Writes Bloomberg Hit Piece On 'Sound Of Freedom'==
The group's blog posts have mentioned "kink" and "child protection" in the same breath. Prostasia has also argued against criminalizing fantasy child pornography and in favor of keeping child sex dolls legal.
Besides his stint as communications director for Prostasia, Berlatsky has a long social media history of defending pedophiles.
"Pedophiles are essentially a stigmatized group. Certain people get designated as deviants, people hate them," Berlatsky tweeted in February, 2017, according to a screenshot.
"The issue isn't that people care about the victims. The issue is that pedophiles are loathed," Berlatsky tweeted the same day in 2017.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-pedophile-advocacy-group-spokesman-writes-bloomberg-hit-piece-on-sound-of-freedom
Whether you like it or not, you'll be associated with them, just like you associated the goofy Qanon crowd with anything you didn't like.
Literally no one here is "making the same arguments" as these pieces of sh*t. Not even close. Not remotely in the same ballpark. Not on the same f/cking planet.
That you would even insinuate as much is incredibly f/cked up, continues to show your true colors, and I legitimately hope you get banned for posting sh*t like this.
Seriously, what on earth is wrong with some of you, that you KEEP having to make these comparisons? How feeble is your position that this is all you can resort to?
Also, who's going to "associate" us with these losers besides a bunch of message board morons? Is that somehow supposed to sway people? Are you threatening us now? "Whether you like it or not…" WTF is this?
Spoken like a true q-anon thread posterSome Junkie Cosmonaut said:Another Doug said:There are two types of forum16 posters on Texags, those who posted on Q-anon, and those who's account were conveniently created after the thread was deleted.tk for tu juan said:
There was a thread in one forum that had hundreds of pages and thousands of replies until it was deleted in 2020 or 2021, yet no one from that forum has any knowledge of what was inside it.
Re-read the thread. Sapper immediately jumps in and inserts Q into the discussion then his merry band of ET posters piled on the Q stuff. Most of the conservative posters (except one who I assumed was trolling based on his posts) on this thread kept highlighting how this movie has nothing to do with politics, or Q or whatever and wondered why such a visceral reaction. 99% of Q related posts were from ET board regulars. Then you turn around and accuse everyone else of being Q followers without a shred of evidence.
So to put it in snarky terms you'll understand…there are two types of entertainment board posters on texags, those who insult and ridicule others based on their own ignorance and…just kidding…that seems to be the only type here.
I have no particularly useful skill to help first hand. All I can do is donate and be on the lookout in my daily life.jeffk said:
I'm really interested in hearing how others here are thinking about taking action to help fight trafficking now that they've seen the film. Have you found an organization you plan on donating to or volunteering with? Earlier in the discussion, several have offered up suggestions of groups that are doing good work in this area. What's next?
TCTTS said:Pluralizes Everythings said:
Some of ya'll need to pay attention to who you're "aligning yourself with." When a pedo Advocacy Group is making the same arguments you are, maybe...juuuuust maybe you've believed a lie, and should turn away from the issue alltogether.
==Former Pedophile Advocacy Group Spokesman Writes Bloomberg Hit Piece On 'Sound Of Freedom'==
The group's blog posts have mentioned "kink" and "child protection" in the same breath. Prostasia has also argued against criminalizing fantasy child pornography and in favor of keeping child sex dolls legal.
Besides his stint as communications director for Prostasia, Berlatsky has a long social media history of defending pedophiles.
"Pedophiles are essentially a stigmatized group. Certain people get designated as deviants, people hate them," Berlatsky tweeted in February, 2017, according to a screenshot.
"The issue isn't that people care about the victims. The issue is that pedophiles are loathed," Berlatsky tweeted the same day in 2017.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-pedophile-advocacy-group-spokesman-writes-bloomberg-hit-piece-on-sound-of-freedom
Whether you like it or not, you'll be associated with them, just like you associated the goofy Qanon crowd with anything you didn't like.
Literally no one here is "making the same arguments" as these pieces of sh*t. Not even close. Not remotely in the same ballpark. Not on the same f/cking planet.
That you would even insinuate as much is incredibly f/cked up, continues to show your true colors, and I legitimately hope you get banned for posting sh*t like this.
Seriously, what on earth is wrong with some of you, that you KEEP having to make these comparisons? How feeble is your position that this is all you can resort to?
Also, who's going to "associate" us with these losers besides a bunch of message board morons? Is that somehow supposed to sway people? Are you threatening us now? "Whether you like it or not…" WTF is this?
Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:TCTTS said:Pluralizes Everythings said:
Some of ya'll need to pay attention to who you're "aligning yourself with." When a pedo Advocacy Group is making the same arguments you are, maybe...juuuuust maybe you've believed a lie, and should turn away from the issue alltogether.
==Former Pedophile Advocacy Group Spokesman Writes Bloomberg Hit Piece On 'Sound Of Freedom'==
The group's blog posts have mentioned "kink" and "child protection" in the same breath. Prostasia has also argued against criminalizing fantasy child pornography and in favor of keeping child sex dolls legal.
Besides his stint as communications director for Prostasia, Berlatsky has a long social media history of defending pedophiles.
"Pedophiles are essentially a stigmatized group. Certain people get designated as deviants, people hate them," Berlatsky tweeted in February, 2017, according to a screenshot.
"The issue isn't that people care about the victims. The issue is that pedophiles are loathed," Berlatsky tweeted the same day in 2017.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-pedophile-advocacy-group-spokesman-writes-bloomberg-hit-piece-on-sound-of-freedom
Whether you like it or not, you'll be associated with them, just like you associated the goofy Qanon crowd with anything you didn't like.
Literally no one here is "making the same arguments" as these pieces of sh*t. Not even close. Not remotely in the same ballpark. Not on the same f/cking planet.
That you would even insinuate as much is incredibly f/cked up, continues to show your true colors, and I legitimately hope you get banned for posting sh*t like this.
Seriously, what on earth is wrong with some of you, that you KEEP having to make these comparisons? How feeble is your position that this is all you can resort to?
Also, who's going to "associate" us with these losers besides a bunch of message board morons? Is that somehow supposed to sway people? Are you threatening us now? "Whether you like it or not…" WTF is this?
This is a lot of indignation from an individual who did the exact same things in this thread that you're flipping out on someone else over.
aTmAg said:I have no particularly useful skill to help first hand. All I can do is donate and be on the lookout in my daily life.jeffk said:
I'm really interested in hearing how others here are thinking about taking action to help fight trafficking now that they've seen the film. Have you found an organization you plan on donating to or volunteering with? Earlier in the discussion, several have offered up suggestions of groups that are doing good work in this area. What's next?
I don't have a suggested group. I'm hoping to get a good suggestion myself, but the last place I trust with something that is F13.
jeffk said:
I'm really interested in hearing how others here are thinking about taking action to help fight trafficking now that they've seen the film. Have you found an organization you plan on donating to or volunteering with? Earlier in the discussion, several have offered up suggestions of groups that are doing good work in this area. What's next?
So you're saying the movie and Ballard are beyond examination and reproach because they're starting a conversation?aTmAg said:
I don't care about people refusing to see movies because of their politics.
But when people claim they aren't avoiding a movie because of politics, but they actually are, then they deserve to be called hypocritical liars.
However, what made this thread particularly egregious is that, due to mere political disagreement, they were bashing an organization who FIGHT CHILD TRAFFICKING and making ridiculous claims that raids of pedo rings does more damage than good. While, I might add, they themselves sit on their ass in front of a computer in their mom's basement.
Such propaganda BS harms the fight against child trafficking and by nature helps child traffickers.
And all of that, just because the actor/organization is too conservative for your taste.
Disgusting.
So I remember growing up thinking that the Columbia drug cartel problem was unsolvable. That they had so much money and able to bribe everybody, that it was never going away. That even after they killed Escobar, that another group would prop up and it would be like perpetual whack a mole. That maybe the only way to really win is to legalize drugs and eliminate their profit source. But there is no way in hell I'd argue to legalizing pedos. That crap should be illegal as hell forever. So that makes this problem even more daunting.jeffk said:aTmAg said:I have no particularly useful skill to help first hand. All I can do is donate and be on the lookout in my daily life.jeffk said:
I'm really interested in hearing how others here are thinking about taking action to help fight trafficking now that they've seen the film. Have you found an organization you plan on donating to or volunteering with? Earlier in the discussion, several have offered up suggestions of groups that are doing good work in this area. What's next?
I don't have a suggested group. I'm hoping to get a good suggestion myself, but the last place I trust with something that is F13.
A few of us have posted groups we have personal experience working with, but yeah, you should always do due diligence in examining how a group uses the resources they collect. Unfortunately there's quite a few charities and non-profits that aren't very forthcoming or transparent with how your donation is used.
No, I'm saying don't make up BS claims to bash somebody because you don' like their politics. Like claim that raiding and rescuing these kids does more damage than otherwise. As if they would be better off continuing to be pimped out.Sapper Redux said:So you're saying the movie and Ballard are beyond examination and reproach because they're starting a conversation?aTmAg said:
I don't care about people refusing to see movies because of their politics.
But when people claim they aren't avoiding a movie because of politics, but they actually are, then they deserve to be called hypocritical liars.
However, what made this thread particularly egregious is that, due to mere political disagreement, they were bashing an organization who FIGHT CHILD TRAFFICKING and making ridiculous claims that raids of pedo rings does more damage than good. While, I might add, they themselves sit on their ass in front of a computer in their mom's basement.
Such propaganda BS harms the fight against child trafficking and by nature helps child traffickers.
And all of that, just because the actor/organization is too conservative for your taste.
Disgusting.
aTmAg said:No, I'm saying don't make up BS claims to bash somebody because you don' like their politics. Like claim that raiding and rescuing these kids does more damage than otherwise. As if they would be better off continuing to be pimped out.Sapper Redux said:So you're saying the movie and Ballard are beyond examination and reproach because they're starting a conversation?aTmAg said:
I don't care about people refusing to see movies because of their politics.
But when people claim they aren't avoiding a movie because of politics, but they actually are, then they deserve to be called hypocritical liars.
However, what made this thread particularly egregious is that, due to mere political disagreement, they were bashing an organization who FIGHT CHILD TRAFFICKING and making ridiculous claims that raids of pedo rings does more damage than good. While, I might add, they themselves sit on their ass in front of a computer in their mom's basement.
Such propaganda BS harms the fight against child trafficking and by nature helps child traffickers.
And all of that, just because the actor/organization is too conservative for your taste.
Disgusting.
That's a start.
In short, simply stop being you.
I agree that everyone gets to make up their mind about what they want to consume, I have noted that @ few times on this thread.TCTTS said:MiniShrike said:
I'm certain I'll catch a perma in the morning, and I know the rules so it's justified.
But there arw lots of folks on this thread who painted with awfully broad brushes with their insults who won't, and others who were just being dicks.
What's messed-up in my opinion is that when we go see Barbie, or Oppenheimer( both of which I will see this weekend), the precedent has been set that this producer or that actor has views that offend some people. And so we start again.
Is that where we want this to go?
For me, it comes down to being consistent in one's beliefs/complaints. I've accepted the fact that there is a small but loud contingent on this board who feels the need to view every last thing in their lives through a political lens, especially the entertainment they consume, and then complain about it endlessly. But if they don't want to watch something because of the political views of someone involved, or the corporation making it, that's completely fine. More power to them, no one's forcing them to watch, etc.
What gets to me is that, when the tables are turned, those very same people come completely unhinged. They suddenly become the most offended people ever, literally labeling those who don't fall exactly in line with their way of thinking as being pro-child-trafficking, of being evil, of derailing threads, etc. When these EXACT people have derailed countless threads doing the exact same thing here, for years and years. Except those of us who don't fall exactly in line with their way of thinking aren't even griping about the movie itself, and most of us aren't saying we're not going to see it. Which makes the opposing side all the more hypocritical.
As for my personal convictions, I'd say it's case by case. I can't stand what Tom Cruise believes, but his movies are so entertaining, and he cares so damn much about entertaining me, that I can check his beliefs at the door. But would I ever pay money to see, for instance, a Dinesh D'Souza movie? Hell no. And I don't care if others feel the same way about someone they don't like. It's just when the shoe's on the other foot, at least be consistent, and have the wherewithal to not absolutely rail against the person so many here have been in the past.
the same sh**Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:TCTTS said:Pluralizes Everythings said:
Some of ya'll need to pay attention to who you're "aligning yourself with." When a pedo Advocacy Group is making the same arguments you are, maybe...juuuuust maybe you've believed a lie, and should turn away from the issue alltogether.
==Former Pedophile Advocacy Group Spokesman Writes Bloomberg Hit Piece On 'Sound Of Freedom'==
The group's blog posts have mentioned "kink" and "child protection" in the same breath. Prostasia has also argued against criminalizing fantasy child pornography and in favor of keeping child sex dolls legal.
Besides his stint as communications director for Prostasia, Berlatsky has a long social media history of defending pedophiles.
"Pedophiles are essentially a stigmatized group. Certain people get designated as deviants, people hate them," Berlatsky tweeted in February, 2017, according to a screenshot.
"The issue isn't that people care about the victims. The issue is that pedophiles are loathed," Berlatsky tweeted the same day in 2017.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-pedophile-advocacy-group-spokesman-writes-bloomberg-hit-piece-on-sound-of-freedom
Whether you like it or not, you'll be associated with them, just like you associated the goofy Qanon crowd with anything you didn't like.
Literally no one here is "making the same arguments" as these pieces of sh*t. Not even close. Not remotely in the same ballpark. Not on the same f/cking planet.
That you would even insinuate as much is incredibly f/cked up, continues to show your true colors, and I legitimately hope you get banned for posting sh*t like this.
Seriously, what on earth is wrong with some of you, that you KEEP having to make these comparisons? How feeble is your position that this is all you can resort to?
Also, who's going to "associate" us with these losers besides a bunch of message board morons? Is that somehow supposed to sway people? Are you threatening us now? "Whether you like it or not…" WTF is this?
This is a lot of indignation from an individual who did the exact same things in this thread that you're flipping out on someone else over.
You keep bringing this up. Over and over again.Sapper Redux said:aTmAg said:No, I'm saying don't make up BS claims to bash somebody because you don' like their politics. Like claim that raiding and rescuing these kids does more damage than otherwise. As if they would be better off continuing to be pimped out.Sapper Redux said:So you're saying the movie and Ballard are beyond examination and reproach because they're starting a conversation?aTmAg said:
I don't care about people refusing to see movies because of their politics.
But when people claim they aren't avoiding a movie because of politics, but they actually are, then they deserve to be called hypocritical liars.
However, what made this thread particularly egregious is that, due to mere political disagreement, they were bashing an organization who FIGHT CHILD TRAFFICKING and making ridiculous claims that raids of pedo rings does more damage than good. While, I might add, they themselves sit on their ass in front of a computer in their mom's basement.
Such propaganda BS harms the fight against child trafficking and by nature helps child traffickers.
And all of that, just because the actor/organization is too conservative for your taste.
Disgusting.
That's a start.
In short, simply stop being you.
I linked to concerns made by people who work directly in anti-trafficking organizations. And they have serious concerns about the raids. You're upset with tone. You haven't actually addressed the criticisms, you've just asserted you're right because… reasons. Like always. So you just want to start a conversation and get credit for it, because trafficking is bad, so you've decided, sans any evidence, that absolutely anything done that claims to address trafficking must be good if it seems to you like it's good.
Was it though? Because from everything I can tell Ballard and Caviezel were actively politicizing the film and attempting to drum up controversy well before any of the articles critical of them (and the movie itself) came out. If one were cynical they might even suspect this was done on purpose to drive up interest in the movie among their conservative target market. Framing it as "The movie liberals don't want you to see!" has clearly been a successful move here.Quote:
This isn't people choosing to not watch the movie. This isn't individuals not watching a movie because they disagree with something. This is industry and industry insiders actively campaigning against a movie.
Quote:
Was it though? Because from everything I can tell Ballard and Caviezel were actively politicizing the film and attempting to drum up controversy
Yes, a few articles from the only places half of the country gets their news from is pretty significant. Tell me one liberal on TexAgs who has actually seen the film?Rocag said:Was it though? Because from everything I can tell Ballard and Caviezel were actively politicizing the film and attempting to drum up controversy well before any of the articles critical of them (and the movie itself) came out. If one were cynical they might even suspect this was done on purpose to drive up interest in the movie among their conservative target market. Framing it as "The movie liberals don't want you to see!" has clearly been a successful move here.Quote:
This isn't people choosing to not watch the movie. This isn't individuals not watching a movie because they disagree with something. This is industry and industry insiders actively campaigning against a movie.
And what actually has been done to suppress this movie? A couple of articles? A few segments on CNN? That's a pretty weak effort, assuming that was their intent in the first place.
Edit: Compare the treatment this movie received to what was said and written about "The Flash" before it came out. That movie has a much stronger claim that it was being suppressed.
boy09 said:
A movie theater adding showings is you evidence that the movie is being suppressed?